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iPhone 14 Plus Sales 'Lower Than Expected' Following Launch Last Week
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Maybe the iPhone 13 is still selling really well? It wouldn’t be surprising would it considering it’s cheaper, similar and still available.
I see it more in terms of maximising profits, rather than selling more iPhones for the sake of selling iPhones. We know that Apple is still grappling with supply constraints in China, and lowering prices in order to sell more iPhones may not mean anything if Apple can’t meet demand or earns significantly less on each iPhone.
Apple could also be betting that the iPhone is a lot more price inelastic than people here give it credit for.
What I like to think is that Apple has taken all these factors into consideration, and their current pricing strategy is what will allow for the maximum amount of profits for the quantity sold.
You could well be right from Apples point of view but from a consumer viewpoint, it’s quite depressing to see a standard iPhone go up £100 and the Pro’s rise by £150 compared to the 13 series. I’ve adjusted my strategy for my upgrades by buying last years model to avoid unnecessary additional cost and I know many of my friends are either doing this or keeping their devices a third or fourth year. People are surprised by the standard iPhone 14 suffering less demand but it’s expensive and it’s very similar to a phone that is also currently sold that is £100+ cheaper. Times are tough and iPhones are non essential purchases that like anything else will be less in demand when inflation is sky high. Unlike you though I couldn’t give a toss if Apple is remaining profitable through this time or not. It makes no difference to me on that front, just what my outgoing are. I have a feeling my days of buying current iPhones is over if this year is anything to go by.
The obvious difference being:
The Xr got Apple's the same latest and greatest A12 chip as the flaghsip model (Xs) upon release, whereas the 14 received last year's chip.
Apart from tech enthusiasts that study benchmarks and specs, who cares about the processor in reality? The differences are so so small and unless you’re pushing your iPhone to it’s fully gaming capability or focussed on the battery lasting a little longer, an A15 is still one of the best chips in the mobile phone industry at this point.
Selling better than the 13 Plus.
Maybe don’t fk over those not wanting to buy the Pro models.
Maybe don’t fk over those not wanting to buy the Pro models.
1. They raised prices overseas (in the areas that can handle it the least) while keeping prices cheaper at home knowing a raise in prices would be an indicator of inflation, having negative impacts on allies at a crucial time.
2. They released a phone that was a fair amount more expensive than last year, without enough differentiation. The 13 and 13 Pro are more of a value.
3. You can buy an Android phone with a 120HZ screen all day for under $500. Why Apple is obsessed with 60HZ screens and lightning ports in 2022 (3 months from 2023) is embarrassing.
Apple will retain the high-end consumer, but find most people waiting things out this year. And if they don't get their act together and get back to providing a perceived value, those core users will sample other choices.
2. They released a phone that was a fair amount more expensive than last year, without enough differentiation. The 13 and 13 Pro are more of a value.
3. You can buy an Android phone with a 120HZ screen all day for under $500. Why Apple is obsessed with 60HZ screens and lightning ports in 2022 (3 months from 2023) is embarrassing.
Apple will retain the high-end consumer, but find most people waiting things out this year. And if they don't get their act together and get back to providing a perceived value, those core users will sample other choices.
Prices are higher overseas largely because of the exchange rate but are still fairly in-line with or even lower than U.S. prices. For example, the pre-VAT price of a 128GB iPhone 14 Plus in England is £790 which at the current exchange rate is around $885 USD. The same phone in the U.S. pre-sales tax is actually more expensive at $929.
Imo, only to a small percentage of people that would make any difference. The people who bought the xr don’t obviously care about the latest and greatest. They seemingly want a good value phone.
As a would-be 14 customer who hasn't bought one, it's mainly a question of price. In Europe they basically kept the price of the 13 the same and introduced the 14 at a higher price point. It's just not worth it. I'm sticking with the 11 for the time being.
People care about CPU, RAM and Storage. It has been like this for mobile devices since at least two decades.
There isn't much else to distinguish mobile phones anyway, it's not that there are competitors left who offer alternative operating systems (besides iOS and Android), physical keyboards or other distinguishers.
The fairphone is fairly popular because of it's modular concept, which lowers TCO by a huge amount - for the price of being much bigger than other phones.
Most people care about storage, imo. Fewer care about cpu and ram. I believe everybody cares about form and features.
I was talking about average people who make up the majority of consumers. They aren’t knowledgeable about cpu and ram are they? My mum hasn’t decided to not upgrade this year because the iPhone 14 has an A15 in it and none of my work colleagues have even the remotest idea of what processors are in their smartphones. Is it competitive on cost and does it do nice pictures and Instagram is about the technical depth.
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highlighted in purple: oh where were you when the FUD (then fact) initially came out about the 12 mini, or the 13 mini huh? Sorry but this has absolutely nothing to do with the shorts etc. insert another quarter.
highlighted in blood-orange: Share buy back has absolutely NOTHING do to with dividends. armchair calling others an armchair in your post is comical and classic ~ especially when only your opinion is shown. But hey you do have a right to your opinion.
Maybe you're surrounded by the wrong "average" people.
Doesn't matter if I talked to others about Psion vs. Palm in 2000 or about iphone vs. fairphone. Specs matter. I've even seen people comparing camera specs (which don't vary much for real life purposes).
And the rest of the people either see no point in buying tech stuff or they just settle for something cheap that someone sells to them - and that's usually not an iphone.
Plus, the sales figures reinforce this. The Pro sells better because it is the newer model. The standard model is last years model with a bit more RAM. People who were interested in that model most likely have bought it last year already.
The iPhone 13 mini had a higher profit (per storage 128/256/512GB) per unit than the iPhone SE2/SE3 and equal to with the iPhone 13 Pro. There is a news article on this site specifically showing the ASP and profits per model actually. Have a search you'll find it.
Your statement is completely false.
I can’t help what country I’m from mate and can’t force people to be tech geeks if they’re just not as invested as people on Mac Rumours. I don’t think the Pro is selling particularly well where I’m from as it’s gone up £150 since last year and we have a major cost of living crisis going on at the moment.
Love this so much it makes me laugh so hard.
Sheep or iSheep.
Yet:
The iPhone still outsells any model of any Android phone quarter for quarter and year for year for over the last 10yrs: globally.
The iPhone still has the longest years of software support (core OS, Apps by first and 3rd party) than any other smartphone OS in history (this includes BlackberryOS/BB10/BBAndroid, Windows, any version, SymbianOS/UIQ/S60 ,any edition, and Java/J2ME)!
^ I've used them all btw.
The iPhone has THE most accessories in the market for all models, again more than any Android phone, allowing users choice.
The iPhone has the longest hardware/software satisfaction reported by JDEdward's and by ALL their users since the iPhone OG!
The iPhone enjoys the longest and most loyal user-base that continues to upgrade to an iPhone than Android, or by any Android manufacturer!
Quite simply, by the facts, I'd say Apple iPhone users are the smart ones as their perceived value of the iPhone, accessories, and ecosystem is the best in the business, allows them more choice for accessories and the best satisfaction for their purchase. I'd say people like you on these boards and others, are not only wasting your time trying to insult and convince us is the 'sheep' - using such insults and phrases verbatim to illicit a non-favourable response.
I mean why even bother trying? lol. Must be really upsetting that others whom have a different choice or point of view than yours is happy, not trying to convince nor insult you for your choice. That cannot be healthy at all.
There it is again ... that word ... 'Value'!
So many are saying similarities in their sentences within various debates in this thread, but all are stating the same meaning : Value!
The iPhone 14 Plus presents no real or not enough value to the end user in this years lineup. Somebody at Apple marketing could very well loose their jobs for pushing for this. It's as if Apple did NOT listen to their users.
Here in Europe the iPhone 14 Plus is priced 1169€ which is pricier than the iPhone 13/12/11 Pro and X/XS price tag 1159 € from previous years.
The iPhone 14 is at 1019€ which is above the 1000€ price tag.
Here’s why People aren’t buying these :
- People are not willing to spend more than 1000€ for an iPhone which isn’t the top of the line.
- Apple increase prices but People budget remain the same.
Nail hit on the head. We keep seeing posters here justifying higher prices by seeing it from Apples point of view in regards to maintaining profit. However, at a consumer level the budget is likely to remain unchanged and especially now as we are seeing huge cost increases across Europe. People on the whole don’t want to spend £1k+ on a phone and the reaction reflects that. The trend for keeping mobile phones longer, buying older models has been gaining momentum for a few years now and this year will accelerate it further. The fact more consumers in America are buying Pro iPhones does give a false impression ‘the more expensive flagships are more in demand on a global scale’.
The price increases were largely due to the exchange rate which negatively impacts both European consumers and Apple.
The pre-VAT price of the 128GB iPhone 14 Plus is €960 in France which at the current exchange rate is around $944 USD. That's roughly the same as the pre-sales tax price ($929) in the U.S.
The pre-VAT price of the 128GB iPhone 14 is €835 in France which at the current exchange rate is around $822 USD. That's roughly the same as the pre-sales tax price ($829) in the U.S.
Apple's choices here were essentially to either lower profit margins and therefore total profits to keep euro selling prices the same OR keep profit margins the same by raising euro selling prices which would likely result in lower total profits due to decreased sales.