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iPhone 14 Plus Sales 'Lower Than Expected' Following Launch Last Week
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Of course there needs to be a low budget option so the SE should remain too.
I agree but American Apple Fanbois aren't ever going to agree. They prattle-on about the collapsing GBP (and Euro), VAT vs US Sales Tax, and the fact that our better consumer-protection rights 'have to be funded somehow', but what they don't ever mention is during all the countless years when £1000 bought you $1300 or more, Apple just swapped the $ sign for a £ sign and raked the difference in.
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So long as you are paying this much for a phone anyway then you may as well go proper broke and get the best one.
My phone is now 2 years old, so naturally i'll be buying a new one. But, i'llbe buying 13 mini, because like the formfactor. Apple can stick these TV sized phones up
Also, that floating island is crap.
Also, that floating island is crap.
People overseas need to stop accusing Apple of "milking" customers or blaming them for currency fluctuations and what their governments charge for tax.
The pre-VAT price of a 128GB iPhone 14 Plus in England is £790 which at the current exchange rate is around $885 USD. The same phone in the U.S. pre-sales tax is actually more expensive at $929. You should be glad you aren’t paying Apple U.S. prices right now. The 128GB iPhone 14 Plus with VAT could be more like £999 instead of £949.
I meant the cheap iPhone as in the 5C was a plastic version of the iPhone 5. The SE used the older chassis too to make it cheap and it’s that concept that became a success.
So, when Apple say that the 14PM is $1,099 means it is the price without VAT? I have no idea about taxes in US but in Sweden it is 25% for electronics. As a private consumer, you pay 16495 SEK ( around $1458) to the shop. If you are purchasing it for the firm, you can deduct VAT from the periodic VAT declaration.
Why is your wife upgrading her phone so often? It’s not like a iPhone 12 or 13 Mini suddenly becomes i delete. My kareoke buddy upgraded from an iPhone SE OG to a 12 Mini. Your wife could very well keep whatever rev of the Mini she has for years and not worry.
Besides, she is not gonna find much luck on the Android side either. When that Mini does stop receiving updates and it’s time to upgrade, she will have to go with whatever the smallest iPhone Apple is selling at the time. That’s likely the 6.1. The standard 6.1 is surprisingly light by the way.
But I do see where the Mini is a great casual phone for people who don’t need to have their phone glued to their palms.
Yes especially since the ones who want regular 14/Plus are probably on the lower end financially.
Correct. The $1,099 U.S. price does not include "VAT" (we call it sales tax here) and a reason it doesn't Is because sales tax can vary by state and city. It's not the same percentage throughout the country.
This is why when I've compared Apple prices between the U.S. and other countries, I exclude VAT since the U.S. price excludes sales tax.
The iphone 13 was just a warmed over iphone 12 and yet the revenue that year was off the charts.
meh.. get a 13 pro max instead of this, same processor and better value
The problem with doing that is the sales tax in the US at it’s maximum is considerably less than VAT in the UK and parts of Europe. You might as well add the maximum sales tax for the US (7.25%) to judge at its extreme and compare that to the 20% VAT added here. You’ll find it still works out that you’re paying considerably less in the US.
Thea above is not a conclusion, it's an opinion as this makes no sense at face value. People wanted an iphone 14 so badly they would give Apple more money for the pro max when the didn't need the features because the plus wasn't available? How does this make any sense whatsoever?
See above. This makes no sense at face value.
This makes no sense....customers throwing money at Apple just to get an iphone 14? You are entitled to your opinion, after allSo they intentionally delayed the Plus, nudging purchases to the pro max, and the results might as well is what Apple wanted, more people spending more money on the most expensive iphones. Tim Cook won't be containing.
All we know is that the 14 Pro family has sold what was produced. What we don't know is how many Apple actually made. We'll get a first taste when they do the Q3 call at the end of October.
Incidentally, all we know is that 14 Pro / Pro Max demand has outstripped supply. We don't know what supply is. We also know that recessions hit lower income brackets harder than higher ones, at least in terms of shifting the balance from discretionary spending to essentials spending, especially when food, energy, and fuel costs are all up around 50% over what they were a year or so ago.
That may be but when discussions are about Apple greed, milking customers, etc., what governments may charge on top of Apple's price is irrelevant. It's not Apple's fault that some countries charge 20% or more VAT.
Also, sales tax can go higher than 7.25% in the U.S. as there can be both a state sales tax and a city sales tax.
In the years before, the pro just had a better camera, which many people don't care about. Also, they didn't came in the mini form factor (but they had the maxi one).
Now, the regular phones also have last year's CPU generation, so only the pro are current. And there is no smaller phone, so you can have a pro phone as the smallest available. Which, in my view, boosts the pro sales compared to the regular phone sales.
Now, the regular phones also have last year's CPU generation, so only the pro are current. And there is no smaller phone, so you can have a pro phone as the smallest available. Which, in my view, boosts the pro sales compared to the regular phone sales.
They should probably consider stopping the yearly releases, and do a release every 2 years.
Would drum up more interest and excitement then, as currently less and less people care.
Would drum up more interest and excitement then, as currently less and less people care.
I agree and also 2 years breathing room would allow for R&D to really innovate perhaps and get out the bugs in the IOS etc and not have issues with hardware and software at launch times. I think for Apple, they are appeasing the stock holders and same goes with every big tech phone company out there by releasing phone models every year with updates to capture new and old customers to switch. We have reached a saturation point on phones and plus look around you, with high interest rates, job losses and economy in a slump, paying almost a grand or more in some countries for a phone..no thanks. I did ask my senior dad if he wanted a new phone but it was overkill and he has the iphone 6 plus! even he does not want to pay retail and rather go the used route to a 11 or 12 model. The phones are not obsolete from last year and can last years.
Isn’t every year?
But this time they’ve kept the same chipset and barely changed anything. The 13 still packed significant battery and camera improvements.
This year the majority of the upgraders are easily jumping to the pro models for better value.
Which may well have been apple’s strategy all along.
Spouse and I are upgrading to the PM after 4 years. The iphone 14 PM contains significant improvement in every aspect of the iphone operation and makes the upgrade juicy for us.
Yeah my wife and I upgraded when the 12 came out. I went PM (but now on the 13 mini as it was way too big). I was happy to recommend the 12 that year and would have recommended the 13.
This year though is tell people to go the pro.