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Titanium case sounds nice, but I'd even be happy with Aluminum... My 11 Pro is significantly heavier than my wife's bigger 12. I could care less for a "premium frame" that has absolutely no effect on the performance of the device. No idea why people want a heavier phone...
Because Apple went through years where every year they made their phones thinner, and their battery life was terrible. Unless and until some new battery is developed then thinner batteries mean phones that need to be recharged sooner, or you buy extra plug in batteries and carry those with you as well. Wifi and cell phone signals take power to generate and receive, so there really is only so much making the computer part of the phone more energy efficient can do. This isn't an Apple problem its a physics problem. 5G takes more energy to broadcast, it can carry more information in the same amount of time because it has more cycles per second to put that information into it. And higher frequencies take more energy to create.
 
Because Apple went through years where every year they made their phones thinner, and their battery life was terrible. Unless and until some new battery is developed then thinner batteries mean phones that need to be recharged sooner, or you buy extra plug in batteries and carry those with you as well. Wifi and cell phone signals take power to generate and receive, so there really is only so much making the computer part of the phone more energy efficient can do. This isn't an Apple problem its a physics problem. 5G takes more energy to broadcast, it can carry more information in the same amount of time because it has more cycles per second to put that information into it. And higher frequencies take more energy to create.
I don't think they were talking about the battery size. It's just the frame's material. The point was that the Pro models are deliberately made heavier than they need to be to give them a premium feel.
 
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I think one notch that blends to the side (trapezoid but with rounded corners, more or less) is less ugly/distracting than two separate cutouts. The stuff up there is status anyway, unless you have a full-screen display such as game or video, and there's info that tells apps where the notch and rounded corners are, so they don't put anything that matters there; and movies tend to keep the most imporant/interesting part of the image near the center of the screen. So the notch isn't that big a deal, except that less status info is shown at once than in pre-notch days. I think the rounded corners are kind of a waste, though - more processing, less usable display space. If I think of most borderless desktop video players, they don't bother with round corners!

Some invisible behind-the-screen magic would be cool, but that would result in reduced display resolution in that area, or reduced front camera resolution, or both; the pixels themselves can't be transparent by any means I know of. If the added complexity comes with such trade-offs too, IMO it's not worth getting that tricky.

On a tablet, a bit of border is not a big waste of space, and is a good place for anything front-facing that's not display; that gives the least cluttered appearance. But on a phone, space is at a premium, so something not too intrusive, like the notch, is IMO a reasonable choice.
 


Newly surfaced detailed schematics for the iPhone 14 Pro and iPhone 14 Pro Max have been shared online by Max Weinbach, revealing that Apple's upcoming high-end iPhones could feature a more prominent camera bump and a thicker overall design.

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Last week, more basic schematics for the iPhone 14 Pro were shared, but the ones shared by Weinbach are more detailed and offer measurements for the upcoming iPhones. According to the schematics, the iPhone 14 Pro Max will measure 77.58 mm in width, slightly smaller than the iPhone 13 Pro Max at 78.1 mm. Also, according to the schematics, the ‌iPhone 14 Pro‌ Max will be nearly identical to the iPhone 13 Pro Max in height, measuring at 160.7 mm compared to 160.8 mm.

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In thickness, the iPhone 14 Pro Max will measure 7.85 mm, slightly thicker than the current high-end iPhone, which measures just 7.65 mm. With the iPhone 13 Pro and iPhone 13 Pro Max, Apple considerably increased the size of the camera plateau on the back compared to the iPhone 12 Pro. In 2022, Apple is looking to repeat a similar trend.

The current camera bump on the iPhone 13 Pro Max is just 3.60 mm tall, according to guidelines created by Apple for accessory makers to follow. According to the iPhone 14 Pro Max schematics shared by Weinbach, the camera bump on the 2022 high-end iPhone will be 4.17 mm thick. The camera plateau itself on the back of the ‌iPhone‌ will also increase in size by about 5% in each dimension, going from the current width of 35.01 mm to 36.73 mm and height of 36.24 mm to 38.21 mm.

Weinbach today also shared schematics for the smaller iPhone 14 Pro. According to those schematics, the iPhone 14 Pro is nearly identical to the iPhone 13 Pro in width at just 71.45 mm vs. 71.5 mm. The iPhone 14 Pro in height will also be essentially unchanged compared to the iPhone 13 Pro, measuring 147.46 mm vs. 147.5 mm. Like the iPhone 14 Pro Max, the iPhone 14 Pro will also feature a more prominent camera bump measuring 4.17 mm compared to the current 3.60 mm.

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Initial renders alleged to be the iPhone 14 Pro Max, shared days ahead of the iPhone 13's launch by leaker Jon Prosser, revealed a design with no camera bump, but instead showed the lenses, LED flash, and LiDAR Scanner flush with the rear glass. Prosser's renders also showed circular volume buttons, reminiscent of the iPhone 4.

Neither of those two design elements will seemingly come true, according to the schematics shared by Weinbach and last week by 91Mobiles. As is always the case, however, Apple's plans can always change, and rumors should be taken with a grain of salt.

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iPhone 14 Pro Max renders by leaker Jon Prosser shared in September 2021

Rumors regarding the iPhone 14 lineup are still in their early stages; however, rumors confidently suggest that Apple will remove the notch on the high-end 2022 iPhones in favor of a pill-shaped and circular cutout.

Earlier rumors thought that the iPhone 14 Pro and iPhone 14 Pro would feature a single pill-shaped intrusion at the top of the display. Rumors, however, have since become more coherent in revealing Apple is planning both a pill-shaped and circular cutout to be featured at the top of the display. According to rumors, the two cutouts will not be centered with the display but instead off-axis, as seen below.
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As the iPhone 14 Pro and iPhone 14 Pro Max gain a pill-shaped and circular cutout, the two lower-end iPhone 14 models are rumored to still feature the same notch as the iPhone 13. Current information suggests that Apple is looking to further differentiate its "Pro" iPhones from its lower-end models.

Alongside giving the high-end variants a new front display design, they could also be the only ones to get improved performance. Reliable Apple analyst Ming-Chi Kuo has said that only the iPhone 14 Pro and iPhone 14 Pro Max will gain the A16 Bionic chip, while the two remaining iPhone 14 models will retain the A15 chip from the iPhone 13.

We're also expecting a wide array of camera improvements across the entire iPhone 14 lineup, along with the possibility of a new titanium case option, a possible vapor chamber thermal system on the high-end models, and more. For a complete and comprehensive rundown of all iPhone 14 rumors so far, see our roundup.

Article Link: iPhone 14 Pro and iPhone 14 Pro Max Schematics Reveal Larger Camera Bump and Thicker Overall Design
Hopefully the larger camera bump means a 10x optical zoom and a higher resolution sensor that enables 8K video.
 
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So for no camera bump the iphone should be around 12mm thick....NO THANK YOU..that would be a BIG BRICk with the pro max around 300grams

I find my iphone 12 already too heavy. For people who us and hold there phones a lot in one specific hand get ready for some physio therapy bills if they keep getting heavier.
 
Thicker design?!? But, how can we have a Keynote without Apple telling us what ridiculous percentage thinner the new model is? This is getting out of hand!

I think you live in the past. Haven't iPhones steadidly been getting thicker every year since the iPhone 6? Except for one year.
 
So do we want a thicker design or not? Complaints that it's getting too thin and you want it thicker to get a bigger battery, now we're complaining that it's too thick / brickgate...make up your damn minds.
In my opinion it does look a tad ridiculous...like a camera bump on a camera bump...

Different people have different opinions.
 
Get rid of the bump, I don’t care how. If you can’t make it flat then taper it
 
The dimensions decrease for height and width, on the iPhone 14 Pro/Pro Max, means the bezels, on the display, are going to be thinner.
 
I rarely ever need to capture photos at night. That’s just a check list feature. Unless I’m Steve Irwin in some remote jungle, the standard flash already does a good job.
Yeah right. A checklist feature. Have you ever dropped your phone in the water? If not, your water resistance is also a checklist feature.
The flash throws off the lighting and if the scene is far away, good luck with the tiny iPhone flash.
Even if you don’t shoot at night, the bigger lenses and sensors in the newer model help you shoot clearer image. Because the shutter doesn’t have to open for long to let the light in. You have less blur from hand shaking.
 
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Yeah right. A checklist feature. Have you ever dropped your phone in the water? If not, your water resistance is also a checklist feature.
The flash throws off the lighting and if the scene is far away, good luck with the tiny iPhone flash.
Even if you don’t shoot at night, the bigger lenses and sensors in the newer model help you shoot clearer image. Because the shutter doesn’t have to open for long to let the light in. You have less blur from hand shaking.
I’ve had my iPhone X for 5 years and never dropped it water. You do know a lot of people use older iPhones right? Not all one billion iPhones are 12 or 13 models.
 
I think that the pill and dot without the notch is actually worse, does that make me crazy?
 
I’ve had my iPhone X for 5 years and never dropped it water. You do know a lot of people use older iPhones right? Not all one billion iPhones are 12 or 13 models.
With the phone that expensive, you should. I use XR myself and looking to upgrade to 14. And it will be a huge upgrade in all fronts and I will make use of everything. It might be just a checklist for you. But it is a real benefit to me.
 
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With the phone that expensive, you should. I use XR myself and looking to upgrade to 14. And it will be a huge upgrade in all fronts and I will make use of everything. It might be just a checklist for you. But it is a real benefit to me.
Trust me, I know what I need from what I don't need when it comes to spending my own money on a new phone.
 
Let’s not jump to conclusions
are the schematics accurate?????
Next if they are accurate then why ???for an added feature or bigger battery
Time will tell
 
Hopefully the larger camera bump means a 10x optical zoom and a higher resolution sensor that enables 8K video.
i'm pretty sure it'd have to be a periscope lens then and that doesn't seem to come true this year. really curious to see how much optical "zoom" they will offer.
 
In other words - if you keep the iPhone 13 Pro: no new cases/case colors from Apple. With all their environment claims it always makes me angry, that we have to get new cases for new device generations. This wasn’t always the case a few years ago. But since the 11 new phone new case.
 
I don't think they were talking about the battery size. It's just the frame's material. The point was that the Pro models are deliberately made heavier than they need to be to give them a premium feel.
Yea that was my point exactly. I am only talking about the frame material. The premium feel is overrated in my mind.
 
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