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iPhone 14 Pro Over 20% Faster Than Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra in Benchmarks

Delivered said:
It is interesting to see the different tune and tone that this news was covered by different outlets on other outlets there’s a lot of focus on how QUALCOMM was getting close to Apple. I actually have to look at performance per watt in these chips not just outright performance, geekbench is gonna show you a small burst but in more sustained performance This chip is actually very close to the A16 in CPU and absolutely destroys it in video, this is not a story of how Apple is ahead. This is a story of how Apple dropped the ball and is no longer significantly ahead in performance per watt or GPU performance and with CPU performance fast closing 8gen3 should get within 10% of the A17 and at that point it’s a tossup in the real world uses, the difference actually goes towards Samsung not Apple. Don’t live in this bubble, geekbench, on its own is misleading.

Also need to look at neural network perf where the gap is small.

The S23u does use a bigger battery but not much bigger and it’s also closing the gap in battery life to within ten to 30 min from hours apart. Apple dropped the ball.
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🥱 *yawn* same story different year
 
bLackjackj said:
Once again 2022 iPhone vs 2023 Samsung. Every year I ask what the point is? The comparison should only be 2023 model iPhone vs 2023 Samsung model. 🤦‍♂️

Clearly thats going to be above the 20%.
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Well the year doesnt matter. The s23 is closer to the iphone 14 then the s22. So when the new phone comes out it would not be fair to do a s23 vs iphone 15 since it will be a larger difference
 
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FFabian said:
Why does speed matter? As long as UI is snappy no one cares, or is someone rendering stuff and editing video files on his phone? No one notices if the phone has a two digit increase in the geek bench score.
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The 14 Pro can't process 48M raw fast enough to give instant JPEG output, not to mention quick multi-shot.
 
radus said:
I don’t think 20% are relevant. But it is very important that you can use the S23 Ultra in Desktop Mode (external Monitor, mouse, keyboard). And there is a useable pen.
In combination with the far superior camera the S23 Ultra alone is much more capable then the iPhone 14 Pro Max.
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Yes, I'll connect it to a USB-C dock for the mouse, keyboard and a 4K monitor to run... What desktop? Windows ARM version? What applications are available?
And I'm sure I'll need to send it back to replace the depleted 50% capacity battery since the charge cable needs to be plugged all the time.
And maybe this expensive flagship phone will be dead in half a year because the vaporing heat is going to ruin most of the components.

Regarding the superior camera. S22's is superior to iPhone 13 Pro, in spec. It's no comparison to iPhone in overall picture quality. Both S22 and S23 are not equipped with proper performance of processing pipeline for their cameras.
 
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ACHD said:
but the SD 8 gen 2 apparently murders the 14 pro in GPU on 3dmark 13600 vs 9900 for the 14 pro.
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Real world gaming performance disagrees.

In area of video recording:
SD 8 gen. 2 is capable of 8K 30fps recording, again murders iPhone's 4K 60fps, right?

But in real word:
1. 60fps is always more fluid than 30fps; 1080p 30fps is actually worse than 1080i.
Almost all those 1080p videos are at 30fps and is no better than 720p at 60fps.
2. When 8K TV is affordable to average person, iPhone would have already been capable of 8K 60fps, and you should throw away all those 8K 30fps junks.
 
Delivered said:
This is a story of how Apple dropped the ball and is no longer significantly ahead in performance per watt or GPU performance and with CPU performance fast closing 8gen3 should get within 10% of the A17 and at that point it’s a tossup in the real world use
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It's not Apple dropped the ball, it's TSMC delaying 3nm.

And it's also TSMC's merit for the big leap of Snapdragon.
Snapdragon 8 gen. 1 was a disaster and forced Qualcomm to transfer its production to TSMC who is famous for improving or even correcting customer's design, including Apple.
 
Forget Samsung, I’m looking forward to what the pixel 8 lineup will bring. Stock Android, no bloat, no waiting for months for updates, best ai in the biz, etc. I’m hoping they increase the camera zoom to 10x as their camera ai is incredible.
 
redbeard331 said:
Forget Samsung, I’m looking forward to what the pixel 8 lineup will bring. Stock Android, no bloat, no waiting for months for updates, best ai in the biz, etc. I’m hoping they increase the camera zoom to 10x as their camera ai is incredible.
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samsung are better for updates than google. secruity updates, bug fixes are all slower with google. You also get updates longer with samsung.
 
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duck apple said:
Yes, I'll connect it to a USB-C dock for the mouse, keyboard and a 4K monitor to run... What desktop? Windows ARM version? What applications are available?
And I'm sure I'll need to send it back to replace the depleted 50% capacity battery since the charge cable needs to be plugged all the time.
And maybe this expensive flagship phone will be dead in half a year because the vaporing heat is going to ruin most of the components.

Regarding the superior camera. S22's is superior to iPhone 13 Pro, in spec. It's no comparison to iPhone in overall picture quality. Both S22 and S23 are not equipped with proper performance of processing pipeline for their cameras.
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It runs Dex similar to Samsungs newer tablet interface which is a more advanced desktop it’s what apple was trying and didn’t quite succeed at when they made stage manager. It runs android software with varying success in scaling but the vast majority of things anre functional. Android is a full OS, not a console like OS so not limited like iOS/iPadOS. Samsung also has a mode on S23ultra to power the phone directly from the power source and bypass the battery so battery capacity not an issue.


Having recently compared the S23ultra to the iPhone 14 pro max. Samsung is 1-2 generations ahead of apple in HDR and managing a higher MP. In lower light at 200mp I still preferred the details on the Samsung which were more detailed although in some cases I preferred the iPhones colors nothing that couldn’t be tweaked.

Animation speed is also smooth and faster than iPhone which makes the ux more fluid and Samsungs interface overall makes much better use of larger screens. iOS really wastes the larger screen.

It’s okay to prefer apple and iPhones but be informed.
 
Must admit I loved Dex on my S whatever it was Ultra - it was really handy as we had USB-C docks all over our offices.

Interesting seeing the S23U/iPhone 14 camera comparisons; the iPhone isn't as on top as a lot seem to think it is? Doesn't look like there's much between them.

MHtB for example has a decent review, and I've worked out that I have similar tastes in photography to him. Your mileage may vary.
 
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