iPhone 14 Pro Over 20% Faster Than Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra in Benchmarks

[redbeard331]

majority of you users will ever use your phone power from just light gaming , web browsing or filters from social media apps . no one will know the difference honestly it’s the reason why my Galaxy S8 still feels fast especially when you use it for just watching videos and web browsing

Exactly, I’d take a 3-4 year old chip with 12-16gb of ram over the fastest processor that has only 6.

If you’re doing anything on an iPhone 14 pro max, and stop to snap a quick pic, whatever you were doing is lost and you will have to start over again.

 

[IpadShouldGetMacOS]

Exactly, I’d take a 3-4 year old chip with 12-16gb of ram over the fastest processor that has only 6.

If you’re doing anything on an iPhone 14 pro max, and stop to snap a quick pic, whatever you were doing is lost and you will have to start over again.

definitely a ios issue too; I get you for example lumafusion you can’t export/render and leave the app to do something else since it would cancel the render because ios doesn’t like running apps in background.

 

[redbeard331]

definitely a ios issue too; I get you for example lumafusion you can’t export/render and leave the app to do something else since it would cancel the render because ios doesn’t like running apps in background.

Yea can you imagine if there was a way to upgrade ram in a phone? I have a feeling that if you could open it up and pop 16gb in an iPhone it would make a huge difference.

 

[Azathoth123]

It matters for Apple for two reasons, 1) The A-series phone processors have been the precursor for the M-series desktop chips. So the extra A-series power is basically free 2) If you build it, they will come. Developers will make use of that power at some point. That power is already being used to do more tasks on-phone rather than in the cloud/remote server.

Not to be overlooked, a more powerful computer with more/more efficient memory will have a longer lifespan than a weaker one. There are many comments about Android phones being very slow after a year or 18 months, not so with iPhones.

 

[M3gatron]

Since nobody has mentioned it, and the benchmark is from Geekbench, it should be pointed out that many Samsung devices are banned from Geekbench for benchmark manipulation.

Quite an irrelevant link.
Samsung implemented a toggle to turn off GOS which cleared the "huge" problem.
Also I'm not sure GOS is necessary on the S23 Series as the Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 is way more efficient in any scenario so there's no need to throttle performance to avoid overheating/instability.

Anyway I find it amusing that this specific article from the generally unpopular comparedial(dot)com was quoted by so many more popular tech sites and forums.
I was reading a S23U owners thread on a forum and a lot of people posted +1500 single and +5000 multicore Geekbench scores so the scores posted by the comparedial(dot)com are obviously on the lower end side. It seems that there are some differences with certain S23 phones which most likely Samsung will correct with software updates and optimizations as the SOC's are identical.
An interesting detail, the S23U in lite mode(which throttles the processor performance a little) achieve similar score in Geekbench singlecore as the 8+ Gen 1 and around 4800-5000 in multicore. So even throttled the 8 Gen 2's CPU is faster than 8 Gen 1 and and even 8+ Gen 1.

 

[TechEnthusiast]

Seems like Samsung is catching up. I remember when their flagship device was slower than an iPhone that came out 3-4 years before. Now they are roughly on par with the iPhone 13.

Not really. I don't know why MacRumors isn't mentioning that Apple's A16 is on TSMC's 2nd Gen 5nm process while the Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 is already on TSMC's 4nm process. So despite being on a newer production process, Qualcomm lacks Apple in performance. I think Apple's design is 2 generations ahead of Qualcomm. Once Apple switches to 3nm this year, Apple should 20% to 30% ahead of Qualcomm's next S8 Gen 3.

 

[BorisDG]

Not really. I don't know why MacRumors isn't mentioning that Apple's A16 is on TSMC's 2nd Gen 5nm process while the Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 is already on TSMC's 4nm process.

They are both on the same "4nm" (N4) process which people call it's not "real" and it's 5nm+++. But in reality is 4nm, but in 5nm family. No idea what you are talking about. I mean you sound clueless.

 

[itti]

The article is misleading. The author only selected the truth but didn’t tell the full picture. S23’s 8gen2 has much better GPU, 40% better than A16’s.

 

[spinedoc77]

If you do the math that means your apps will open exactly 0.00000000827 seconds faster on the iPhone! Makes me wonder why my iPhone Pro Max still freezes all the time.

 

[M3gatron]

Not surprised at all. A16 is the best mobile SoC on the market.

Not really, overall the 8 Gen 2 is better(if you take in consideration every SOC component).

Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 vs A16 Bionic: Which one is Better? - Deal N Tech

The Snapdragon summit concluded on November 17, and the much anticipated Snapdragon

www.dealntech.com

Btw there is A16 score with 5600+ for multi.

The 8 Gen also gets near 5300 actually, the 4700 Geekbenck score is not the maximum it can achieve.

Real world tests and games showed completely difference scenario for the GPU.

Not they didn't. The Xioami 13 Pro so the Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 can run Genshin Impact at 4K 30fps and also at 1440p ~60fps.
There are in depth analysis on both the 8 Gen 2 and the A16 and the 8 Gen 2 has a faster and more efficient GPU than the A16.

 

[BorisDG]

Not they didn't. The Xioami 13 Pro so the Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 can run Genshin Impact at 4K 30fps and also at 1440p ~60fps.

Not same settings 100%. There are videos comparing the draw distance and iPhone has much better.

 

[Apples n' Stone]

Seems like Samsung is catching up. I remember when their flagship device was slower than an iPhone that came out 3-4 years before. Now they are roughly on par with the iPhone 13.

Perhaps somewhat, but interestingly they are more on par with the iPhone 12 Pro single core. Blimey that's my phone and I feel like I've had it forever.

 

[M3gatron]

Not really. I don't know why MacRumors isn't mentioning that Apple's A16 is on TSMC's 2nd Gen 5nm process while the Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 is already on TSMC's 4nm process. So despite being on a newer production process, Qualcomm lacks Apple in performance. I think Apple's design is 2 generations ahead of Qualcomm. Once Apple switches to 3nm this year, Apple should 20% to 30% ahead of Qualcomm's next S8 Gen 3.

The A16 uses 4nm and there's no info to point out that it's an inferior 4nm in comparison to the one used by Qualcomm, so basically they are on the same manufacturing node.
According to recent rumors the 8 Gen 3's CPU will be a beast(Qualcomm will finally use a decent amount of cache, 16Mb L3), I doubt that the A17 CPU will be able to have a 30% lead in performance.

 

[BorisDG]

According to recent rumors the 8 Gen 3's CPU will be a beast(Qualcomm will finally use a decent amount of cache, 16Mb L3)

Just 16MB? A16 is already with 16MB for P-cores and 4MB for E-cores. And its for L2 which is faster than L3. SLC is 24MB. Snapdragon has a lot to catch in that department it seems.

 

[M3gatron]

Not same settings 100%. There are videos comparing the draw distance and iPhone has much better.

According to Geekerwan the difference in settings doesn't really have a huge impact on performance, after all the 8 Gen 2 can maintain 60fps at 1440p resolution. Maybe the developer of the game will unlock some setting for the 8 Gen 2.

 

[M3gatron]

Just 16MB? A16 is already with 16MB for P-cores and 4MB for E-cores. And its for L2 which is faster than L3. SLC is 24MB. Snapdragon has a lot to catch in that department it seems.

Yeah just 16Mb(the 8 Gen 2 currently has 8Mb L3 cache) and it will score +1800 points in single and +6200 points in multi-core.

Qualcomm Snapdragon 8 Gen 3 trashes the Apple A16 Bionic in alleged Geekbench run

The Qualcomm Snapdragon 8 Gen 3 supposedly scored 1,930 and 6,236 in Geekbench's single and multi-core tests. The SoC will allegedly feature a 1+5+2 core configuration and be 20% more power-efficient compared to the Snapdragon 8 Gen 2.

www.notebookcheck.net

If I remember correctly the Server variant of the Cortex A76 core with higher levels of cache had +40% better IPC than the smartphone version.

 

[fourthtunz]

The article is misleading. The author only selected the truth but didn’t tell the full picture. S23’s 8gen2 has much better GPU, 40% better than A16’s.

I agree and didn't mention battery life.

 

[BorisDG]

Yeah just 16Mb(the 8 Gen 2 currently has 8Mb L3 cache) and it will score +1800 points in single and +6200 points in multi-core.

That how much it will score is all rumors at this point. Gen 2 just came out. I'm pretty sure A17 on 3nm will be beast.

 

[The Game 161]

Whole point of this great chip is battery efficiency, great battery life and that’s where SD gen 2 shines. GPU is better on gen 2 where CPU A16 is still better I believe Basically the chips are pretty close overall.

S23 ultra shines and the difference is these reasons and in image processing.

SD gen 2 helps a lot in improved image processing

 

[Azathoth123]

The article is misleading. The author only selected the truth but didn’t tell the full picture. S23’s 8gen2 has much better GPU, 40% better than A16’s.

It doesn’t matter, GPUs are fast enough. 😉

 

[Tyler O'Bannon]

Isn't this actually an improvement for Samsung? I think I remember their phones being slower than 2+ year old iPhones. Nonetheless, ASi is better all the way around, even outside of benchmarks.

 

[Mihailo88]

Why does speed matter? As long as UI is snappy no one cares, or is someone rendering stuff and editing video files on his phone? No one notices if the phone has a two digit increase in the geek bench score.

Obviously speed is overhead for the UI, other features that wouldn't work without, and I think the test just gives a glimpse of those inner workings working together. The processor usually runs at much lower speeds, besides things like taking a full resolution photo need fast calculations for best results and the rest is battery, portability and cost.

 

[Coochie Boogs]

Of course it is, shocked that people come into these threads and expecting it to be something different. Bu bu bu but........da specs. Whatever, software efficiency and built around the hardware most times will be reign supreme.

 

[ACHD]

It compares the latest flagships of Apple and Samsung. If Samsung had released this phone 40 days ago, still in 2022, why would that have been more valid? From a "generational" perspective, the S23 is much closer to the iPhone 14 series than it will be to the 15.

And it is not like this current benchmark makes Samsung look good.

eh but the SD 8 gen 2 apparently murders the 14 pro in GPU on 3dmark 13600 vs 9900 for the 14 pro.

So around 27% faster GPU on the s23... So its interesting the SD 8 Gen 2 is crazy the Adreno 740 thats in it is fckn crazy compared to anything else out there.

 

[osxhero]

I think the big difference is that Android doesn't patch the phone slower in one year. I still have my Galaxy Note 3 (in addition to my Ultra 22 Note) and it's as fast as it was the day I bought it. The battery went three years before becoming noticeably problematic. My iMac has been patched down to less than 50% of its speed six months ago. I do tons of video editing and 3D and I just watch the speeds decline after every "security patch."