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These comparisons are really meaningless. It’s no longer about performance, it’s about usability and trying to discover the next must-have feature that Apple and other companies can introduce to drive sales.
 
Ah, when they eventually have faster chips do we go back to saying it's not about speed but user experience and efficiency? We shouldn't be too smug since we know how it was on the other side and things can change, they are catching up.
 
Making chips faster is easy. Making them faster and more efficient is what Apple has been focusing on, which is why iPhones generally offer much better battery life, while also being powerful. Not to diminish the fact that other manufacturers are at least finally improving on their performance.
Let me know if you can find a comparison of battery life between the latest Samsung vs Apple products.
 
Snapdragon 8 gen 3 dev chips have been leaked and score 2000 single core and 7k multi core. They will be out about same time as the next iPhone but not in Samsungs cycle for this year. The s24 will be a huge upgrade though.



 

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I think the more important question is if it's going to be fast enough 4 to 5 years from now. People have been saying that iPhone processors are fast enough for a long time, yet they inevitably get bogged down by heavier new OS features. When you can use a phone for a year or two longer than the competition, that effectively brings the price of the phone ownership down by a significant amount.
As I said, what should it be? I don‘t see a 3D user Interface, the processors are fast enough to power any 2D userinterface possible with a 120Hz refresh rate. Need 100% more cpu power to render the interface? Use 60Hz.
Video decoding is hardware bound. 8K videos could be challenging - but who cares?

Same is also true for the desktop - there was a time when you needed to upgrade your PC every three years or so. At the moment my Corei9 workstation is four or five years old, without any need to upgrade the system it still chews through kernel compilations like hell.
 
Snapdragon 8 gen 3 dev chips have been leaked and score 2000 single core and 7k multi core. They will be out about same time as the next iPhone but not in Samsungs cycle for this year. The s24 will be a huge upgrade though.



It is interesting to see the different tune and tone that this news was covered by different outlets on other outlets there’s a lot of focus on how QUALCOMM was getting close to Apple. I actually have to look at performance per watt in these chips not just outright performance, geekbench is gonna show you a small burst but in more sustained performance This chip is actually very close to the A16 in CPU and absolutely destroys it in video, this is not a story of how Apple is ahead. This is a story of how Apple dropped the ball and is no longer significantly ahead in performance per watt or GPU performance and with CPU performance fast closing 8gen3 should get within 10% of the A17 and at that point it’s a tossup in the real world uses, the difference actually goes towards Samsung not Apple. Don’t live in this bubble, geekbench, on its own is misleading.

Also need to look at neural network perf where the gap is small.

The S23u does use a bigger battery but not much bigger and it’s also closing the gap in battery life to within ten to 30 min from hours apart. Apple dropped the ball.
 
As I said, what should it be? I don‘t see a 3D user Interface, the processors are fast enough to power any 2D userinterface possible with a 120Hz refresh rate. Need 100% more cpu power to render the interface? Use 60Hz.
Video decoding is hardware bound. 8K videos could be challenging - but who cares?

Same is also true for the desktop - there was a time when you needed to upgrade your PC every three years or so. At the moment my Corei9 workstation is four or five years old, without any need to upgrade the system it still chews through kernel compilations like hell.

It’s not just about the interface itself. The OS and average apps also gradually start to demand more power with each generation.

If you look at phones from 5 years ago like the iPhone 8 or X, right around the time people were saying phones were “fast enough,” those phones have also developed slower speeds and stutters with successive OS updates, although far less than less powerful phones from the same era.

The same is true for desktops though perhaps to a lesser degree these days. Your i9 held up well, but could the same be said for a 7100 or 7400 from the same generation? They may have all been indistinguishably fast for many common tasks at the time but they may not hold up as well when compared years down the road, be it 3 years or 5.
 
I'm more interested in battery life , the camera and all the other stuff is at such a high level it's the software holding the iPhone back now

Like having a Lamborghini V12 and filling it with diesel
 
I'm more interested in battery life , the camera and all the other stuff is at such a high level it's the software holding the iPhone back now

Like having a Lamborghini V12 and filling it with diesel
battery life is epic on the s23 ultra all thanks to SD gen 2
 
I’m actually surprised it’s that close.

Apple needs to step up their game, lol.
 
Because Apple and Samsung chips are so fast I don’t see myself upgrading from an iPhone 12 mini or s22 ultra for 5 years minimum
 
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The same people here saying benchmarks are irrelevant are probably trying to get an extra 2% on a benchmark test by overclocking their PC 😂
Funny.... if you go to the Mac Pro forum they all say benchmarks like GeekBench are irrelevant. And you KNOW they're not doing anything to overclock because you can't on Macs.

Hmmm..... I wonder why you have this opinion?
 
damn!! that means the iphone will load instagram in 0.053s vs S23's 0.06s. **

PWNED

** Not factoring in internet connection, latency, network congestion and global warming ;)
 
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Sooo, anyone see the regular string of tiktoks where someone zooms way in on a building with an S22/23, then shows how the iphone can't manage it. It's often some pseudotechnical bro "teaching" his new gf that "iphones are trash" and she announces she's getting rid of her iphone tonight! Then the commenters all cheer and tell anecdotes about how iPhone users are dumb.
 
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