Just get rid of this feature from the phones completely and leave it synced to the cars themselves.
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iPhone 14's Car Crash Detection Still Triggering False 911 Calls, Forcing Dispatchers to Reallocate Resources Away From Real Emergencies
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I had to edit the quote for decency.
Funny, yes, but come on, man, keep it SFW.
Besides, "encounter" is just cringe.
Monogamous for life and it's never an encounter.
Sometimes it's a jungle adventure, sometimes underwater exploration, but it's always better with a little creativity and subtext.
Sounds like a true hater. I’m guessing there’s love for all the half baked google and Samsung features that they rush to beat Apple to market while Apple works to prefect before they release. Then they copy Apple’s version because customers actually find value in it. This sounds like an unexpected quirk with the only complaints in each of these seams to be ski resorts.
Three reasons I can think of off the top of mi head:
1. Requires exact location tracking that has to check with a server before every potential emergency, requiring data
2. GPS is not always accurate, emergencies may be missed, especially on the border of these locations
3. Cars accidents can still happen in ski resorts and amusement parks
I had the opposite experience while snowboarding. I crashed heels over head going 20+ mph while wearing my Watch Ultra with my iPhone in my pocket. Neither crash nor fall detection was triggered. I was kind of disappointed since I’ve “successfully” triggered crash detection when I was hit by a car while riding my bike, and triggered fall detection when I jumped down from the 2nd rung of a ladder.
I’d rather my phone call for help and me be ok enough to cancel it, than need help and not be able to call for it.
I’d rather my phone call for help and me be ok enough to cancel it, than need help and not be able to call for it.
My truck already has a 911 crash detection feature integrated into the vehicle. It uses the phone to call so it’s not a perfect solution if the phone gets damaged, but the vehicle’s diagnostic and safety systems are going to be a lot more accurate in actually detecting a crash.
That’s not going to work. They need to train the algorithm a little more. They already listen so they should be able to differentiate a sound of a crash to a sound of a rollercoaster.
Did you not even read the original post, or are you just replying to comments?
"In one instance at the Vail Police Department in Vail, Colorado, the iPhone 14's Car Crash Detection successfully called 911 for a real car crash, noted Marc Wentworth, the director of the Vail Public Safety Communications Center, highlighting the feature does have potential to save lives.”
No it's not. Apple doesn't tell users to disable it while skiing or on rollercoasters. They have no way of knowing of this issue unless they heard about it externally.
Whilst I agree with all of your other statements and from a person who has arrested people for false calls, I cannot disagree with this statement more.
I know some posters said something similar, but can’t they just have it detect when you are in proximity of a ski resort or amusement park and a notification can pop up asking you if you’d like to temporarily disable the feature? Then put it on the user to disable it, instead of automatically turning it off.
Sorry if someone said this exact thing already!
Sorry if someone said this exact thing already!
Surely the onus is on the person who buys the product, especially when it is advertised in so many places, plus in the documentation in the box to understand the product? What kind of idiot doesn’t take responsibility for themselves? Do car manufacturers take responsibility for people who automatically lock the car door when moving? It could make it harder for emergency services to access the cabin in cases of emergency.
The problem then is if an accident occurs, and Apple would be responsible for turning it off, especially because it’s a high risk area. People would refuse to accept that responsibility and would just leave it on.
Except users are using it as intended. "Disable it while riding rollercoasters" is not intended usage. This is equivalent to saying the user is at fault if they plug in the phone and it catches fire. "Well batteries are highly flammable you should've known not to plug it in" is not valid reasoning.
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What a load of rubbish. As if that’s why they’ve done this.
You misunderstood me. I’m saying people shouldn’t be turning it off at ski fields. I think Apple need to work on the algorithm. Maybe it’s a just how sensitive it is. I’ve got no idea. But I think people should just keep using it as intended.
But it’s not a false report for it to call services. It’s up to Police to work with Apple on how to rectify this issue.
As a police officer, we used to have to respond to all activated alarms, and it was shown about 97% were false. We changed that to be when Multiple Alarms were activated only and it dropped to significantly less. Maybe that’s what needs to happen here? Using other sensors to help determine, that if a person continues moving, or if the Watch becomes very cold, or the heart rate changes significantly, it will trigger a confirmation or cancel. Dunno. I was a police officer not a sensor manufacturer.
It's more about practicality than engineering. Triggering GPS after a crash means losing precious time. Contrary to popular belief, it actually takes a lot longer than seconds for GPS to accurately locate a receiver. In most GPS use cases, the user can see the GPS location, i.e., the blue dot, in his or her viewport and determine when the lock has occurred. In a crash, everything has to be automatic. This means that, instead of the user, it's the iOS that has to determine when a GPS has locked in on the crash location. It's very difficult to do given the time constraint and lack of user input. This is all before the iOS cross-references the GPS location and the classification of the POI.
It is also highly likely that the phone, along with its GPS receiver, will have been damaged, thus making GPS location unreliable. It's actually not that simple.
Apple never warned about this and called the feature Car Crash Detection. They never said turn it off if you ski or go to rollercoasters. They said ‘this is gonna call 911 if you get into a serious enough to knock you out car accident’. So I don’t get how you’re trying to shift it as a user fault. Especially when the feature is turned on by default, the user is never in the wrong. After all, it’s an iPhone that does a bunch of other stuff, not a car crash detection device that the users failed to familiarize themselves with.
Most modern cars have been doing this for the last few years and I've never seen Germany excluded from that. Obviously the difference with cars is there's less chance for it to be an accidental activation.
