What one person describes as "horrid loud" inside the quiet confines of his car does not necessarilly mean it's particularly obvious on a noisy roller coaster. Additionally, getting to the phone in the latter circumstance may not be trivial.
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iPhone 14's Car Crash Detection Still Triggering False 911 Calls, Forcing Dispatchers to Reallocate Resources Away From Real Emergencies
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Not true. The woman's iPhone 14 detected the crash. Don't spread disinformation.
Crash survivor recounts how iPhone SOS feature led to helicopter rescue in Angeles National Forest
A woman who survived a car crash in the Angeles National Forest recounted how an iPhone 14 emergency SOS feature helped summon a rescue helicopter after the vehicle plunged about 300 feet into a canyon.
I’m sure it varies by maker. My wipers do very well at being on when I need them and off when I don’t. I also don’t have stuttering or streaks that early in their life.
Apple Maps? 😂 If it relied on that, no one would have to worry about using it.
I wonder if/when an emergency response delayed by one of these calls leads to a loss of life or permanent injury and the victim could sue Apple?
Crash detection is something that should have been introduced through some sort of regulated process. It’s the sort of thing that needs the testing an validation that airbags are put through for example. Or medical equipment.
Just the panic button feature on the iPhone and Apple Watch has resulted in false alerts to my friends and family while at the gym. And all because my wrist would press against the Apple Watch button assigned to long press for panic.
Oddly I don’t remember seeing anyone saved by that feature mentioned on this site. But I could be wrong.
Honestly all these are GREAT features. But they need more refinement.
Just the panic button feature on the iPhone and Apple Watch has resulted in false alerts to my friends and family while at the gym. And all because my wrist would press against the Apple Watch button assigned to long press for panic.
Oddly I don’t remember seeing anyone saved by that feature mentioned on this site. But I could be wrong.
Honestly all these are GREAT features. But they need more refinement.
well? how many of the calls were from 16.1.2 devices?
seems like an extremely important detail missing.
seems like an extremely important detail missing.
Not a definite fix. You'll ignore genuine crashes at theme parks. Pop up theme parks happen near my house during summer. Plus there are several roller coasters in the middle of Las Vegas.
After a big crash, if the owner is not conscious (which is the exact use case of this feature) the iPhone should be not moving anymore, so it should just trigger the call after x seconds of zero sensor activity after the crash detection is firing. That would filter those cases and then you don’t need to guess the place via gps which is prone to errors (you can crash your car around a skiing station) or checking if the Bluetooth of the car is connected (some people don’t do that, and also the car could be damaged or turned off because of the crash)
Or while in driving mode. Geo fencing certain amusement parks for obvious reasons were it doesn’t turn on automatically.
“Sorry wrong number” - Steve Jobs, 2007
But what if someone actually falls off a roller coaster in an amusement park?
Then that's a real emergency that won't get reported.
Also, don't blame Apple. The iPhone clearly asks the owner for confirmation that they are indeed in trouble. Why aren't the iPhone users tapping "No" or canceling the call before it happens?
Can I assume you have never gone skiing? As the article said phone and watch are buried under clothing so you don’t feel the vibration notifications. I have had quite a few false fall notifications on my watch, during warm weather I can easily catch them. In winter garb, no way.
Was a joke attempt: verify that you want to verify....ad infinitum
The numbers in the article aren’t enough, that’s odd. Ski resorts are usually in small communities with small EMS. and fire departments so the costs and manpower for mandatory response is a bigger strain.
Indeed. I've never even been able to get Bluetooth to work in my car and I consider myself relatively tech-savvy. I wonder how many "normal" people actually have Bluetooth set up.
I am sure Apple thought to use GPS but there are two problems; GPS is a battery hog and linking to maps consumes cell data. I want neither of these to occur. Crash detection belongs with the car, that is where mine currently resides.
Would be a lot easier if it only worked using “Do Not Disturb While Driving.” Since this can go on automatically, you generally wouldn’t be driving a car through an amusement park or down a ski hill.
Yeah, like how Siri understands you so well thanks to machine learning.
But what if someone crashes badly with their mountain bike?
A better solution is to have an AirTag-like device that does the crash detection, that you can attach to your bike or in your car, and which notifies detected crashes to the nearby phone for the 911 call. Really, the vehicles are in a much better position to detect crashes than a phone.
Well, that's not a car crash, that's what fall detection is for
As always it is a double standard. An individual makes a fake 911 call they get in trouble. A huge company does it and nothing. An individual sells an old pair of tires that blow out and cause and accident, they get prosecuted for manslaughter. A huge tire chain sells expired tires for months and when a pair blow out causing an accident they get a simple fine.
