Huh?!? My phone is in my pocket every time I go on rollercoasters, which is a few times a week normally at Disneyland. Who takes their phones out of their pockets to go on a ride??
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iPhone 14's Crash Detection Mistaking Roller Coaster Rides for Car Crashes
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Yeah, no one... NO ONE is leaving theri $1K phone in a little bin until they get off a ride. When was the last time you went to an amusement park? 2003?
Pants maybe.... if its a coaster where your hanging suspended.... because your nickers could cause castration or something and you can't put your ball on the shelf this dude keeps ranting about.
Yes the rider is totally liable, plus I've known parks to stop rides already. I know they stopped the Aerosmith one in Hollywood Studios because someone was freaking out.
My wife could never ride because it kept going down whenever she got in line
Same with Hagrid's, but fortunately we weren't in line when it went down.Yeah. In another thread I was ridiculed for bringing attention to the accidental nature of this feature. While it's a reasonable feature in and of itself, the abstract passiveness of it relies way too much on data points that could result in error. For example, if I put my phone in a purse and throw it across the room when I get home (to put where it belongs?), does it signal a crash? The noise, velocity, etc signal a potential. It's just annoying to have to worry about it, and the liability becomes yours, not Apples.
Besides, for the one issue where this is a factor - actual car crashes - I for one live in a city where if there was a crash, the likelihood of all people being unconscious, being in the middle of nowhere, and no one reporting the issue if I was unconscious, is so incredibly small as to make this kind of laughable as a "feature".
Apple is quite literally using this as a "all news is good news" feature. "Look, we're just trying to save lives here". If one person who runs off the road in the middle of nowhere with no other cars around hits a tree and is unconscious the phone MIGHT call and save their life. But until that point, we're going to get posts like these saying bad data after bad data and end users are inconvenienced and EMTs are inconvenienced ... but hey, we're talking about Apple here so win.
Oh, and that improved location chip they use for this isn't free, so lets up the price for the inconvenience. Good times.
Besides, for the one issue where this is a factor - actual car crashes - I for one live in a city where if there was a crash, the likelihood of all people being unconscious, being in the middle of nowhere, and no one reporting the issue if I was unconscious, is so incredibly small as to make this kind of laughable as a "feature".
Apple is quite literally using this as a "all news is good news" feature. "Look, we're just trying to save lives here". If one person who runs off the road in the middle of nowhere with no other cars around hits a tree and is unconscious the phone MIGHT call and save their life. But until that point, we're going to get posts like these saying bad data after bad data and end users are inconvenienced and EMTs are inconvenienced ... but hey, we're talking about Apple here so win.
Oh, and that improved location chip they use for this isn't free, so lets up the price for the inconvenience. Good times.
Most people would bring multiple cables so their devices can be charged simultaneously.
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Most parks in Denmark… standard. Would not mind leaving my bag there, but not my phone.
People that go to Universal Parks. This isn't a new policy.
Universal Orlando makes metal detectors permanent at its theme parks
Metal detectors are now permanent fixtures outside three roller coasters at Universal Orlando to deter visitors from taking keys, loose change, phones and selfie sticks onto the rides. Universal fi…
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Afib detection isn’t 100% either.
Where I live it’s possible to go off in a ditch and not be discovered for a while. And sure if one lives in Manhattan the feature may be less useful to the individual. That doesn’t make it less useful subjectively or objectively.
It is a good feature and and good news feature.
Correct it’s a win win. People said an equivalent about afib detection. But I understand you want to throw the baby out with the bath water.
Thankfully apple doesn’t listen (imo) to much of this hyperbole.
who said it needed to be by the next software update?
apple have solved bigger problems than this - It’s not a stretch to imagine they can use AI with mapping imagery of car parking lots to create appropriate geofences - hell you can even lift items out of photographs with a single touch now.
But it doesn't call 911 when it detects a problem. It just notes it for you.
Great so we'll start adding major new features that are "meh" and we're all ok with that?
The end result is that it will call 911. It really, absolutely, consumes public resources when this happens.
No, it's a potentially good feature that gets Apple a lot of press, which is only good for Apple. This news article only brings more presence-of-mind to Apple which tells people that basically Apple has a questionable feature that is causing issue with emergency response pros.
Now you're twisting words. It's not win-win, it's a potential feature that is causing problems. Only a "win" when it really helps someone; right now we hear how it's causing problems. Afib detection doesn't call 9-1-1 and allows a singular human, the owner, to evaluate their options.
Any automation that impacts the EMT system needs to be better than this or require human intervention.
But you make an appointment clogging up the medical system.
100% yes. We’ll add features that help save lives even if the feature isn’t 100% across billions of iPhones.
It’s good for the unconscious individual in a ditch as well.
The news article descibes a great life saving feature.
It’s a win-win. If you don’t want to use it turn it off.
No you heard a few cases out of millions of iPhones.
No but someone may call 911 on the afib detection.
If one is in concious in a ditch you want manual intervention? Sure let’s let people die because kognos doesn’t like this feature. Now you know why apple, imo, doesn’t take requirements from the internet.
No. I'm wondering which roller coaster would even come close to simulating the motions of a crash. Unless the breaks fail and a train collides with another train. Which would count as an actual crash.
In a bumper car, you actually do crash. Into other cars and into the sides of the enclosure. They tell you not to have head on collisions, but people don't always listen.
And then there are those gasoline powered car rides where if you bump the car in front of you, which they tell you not to do, I could see that being detected as a crash.
But in the above situations, unlike an automobile crash, there's motion afterwards. If that motion continues for say 15-25 seconds (or whatever), it's likely not an automobile crash.
We got by just fine in the 80's and 90's (and the 70's too), but it is easier, and more convenient, to have realtime communications. You could also get around the park without shoes, but we have those now, too. Yes, you can do "meet back here at X time", but then, if someone gets delayed, or needs to change the plans, you're kind of stuck, the only possibility is to meet at the declared place and time, and go from there - even if that wastes a bunch of opportunities that have come up in the meantime. And if someone is delayed for some reason, the whole group has to sit around wasting time. You talk of those old times like it was just as good, but it wasn't, it was sometimes stressful, and often a waste of time, and inflexible - unable to adjust to changes in the environment or things that came up. Being able to send group messages simplifies things considerably.
Hopefully the train would eventually stop. And there would be people around to call 911.
Every large parking lot indicates an amusement park? And every amusement park with high g-force rides is surrounded by parking lots?
My bad apparently we can turn crash detection off already. I guess if you have a 14 pro just go to SOS emergency and turn off crash detection if you are about to go on a roll coaster ha.
That’s called the "Trolley Problem" a famous thought experiment. When you figure it out, let us all know, because you’ll win a Nobel Peace Prize for doing so.
Meanwhile steps towards saving livings takes my vote versus a hypothetical "what if" that you’ve used.
The point of solutions is to come up with workable ones. I haven't seen any mentioned yet. We at this point in the first place because Apple shipped a feature without considering a fairly common real-world scenario. If you suggest a solution and there's a flaw in it, I would think you would want to know about the flaw, to see if there was some useful workaround.