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It looks like 256GB will be the base storage starting point. I would be happy if Apple introduce a 1.5TB/2TB iPhone.


This is actually great for me, even if there's a price increase. I only need 256GB, and if you ever need to trade-in or sell your phone, you get the most money for the base model. Apple doesn't increase trade-in if you have more storage, and you don't recoup as much of your cost when you sell your phone.
 
If true, what’s the reason? Always on display? A17 architecture slow and they needed to increase the frequency?

Perhaps just because they could? The height and width of the physical chassis size is pretty much determined by the screen size and the thickness by the thickest internal stack of components (the screen will always be one layer of that stack). If Apple has removed the physical SIM card slot on all models (speculation at this point but a possibility I think, and maybe with other component shrinks and rearrangements elsewhere, it is possible that the footprint of the main PCB and maybe other components has reduced slightly thus leaving more space available to the battery.

I imagine that Samsung and other manufacturers would love to steal Apple's battery-life crown(*) with their next models so even though these rumoured modest increases in battery capacity presumably do increase Apple's bill of materials a bit for every affected phone I can well imagine that somewhere in Apple product management someone has decided that that modest increase in the BOM is worth it to raise the bar higher for Samsung etc to try and leapfrog them between now and September next year so why not use any potentially empty internal volume (if my theory is correct) for a bigger battery?

(*) I'm sure that someone can point out that the 14 Pro Max isn't the pinnacle of phone battery life but amongst the biggest players for current most well known flagship phones I think the Pro Max is still considered top of the pile isn't it?
 
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Perhaps just because they could? The height and width of the physical chassis size is pretty much determined by the screen size and the thickness by the thickest internal stack of components (the screen will always be one layer of that stack). If Apple has removed the physical SIM card slot on all models (speculation at this point but a possibility I think, and maybe with other component shrinks and rearrangements elsewhere, it is possible that the footprint of the main PCB and maybe other components has reduced slightly thus leaving more space available to the battery.

I imagine that Samsung and other manufacturers would love to steal Apple's battery-life crown(*) with their next models so even though these rumoured modest increases in battery capacity presumably do increase Apple's bill of materials a bit for every affected phone I can well imagine that somewhere in Apple product management someone has decided that that modest increase in the BOM is worth it to raise the bar higher for Samsung etc to try and leapfrog them between now and September next year so why not use any potentially empty internal volume (if my theory is correct) for a bigger battery?

(*) I'm sure that someone can point out that the 14 Pro Max isn't the pinnacle of phone battery life but amongst the biggest players for current most well known flagship phones I think the Pro Max is still considered top of the pile isn't it?

Also, the other rumored features for the 15 Pro series really aren't that compelling over the 14 Pro series imo. They're small quality of life upgrades that really won't make that big of a difference in everyday usage unless you really use those specific features (telephoto camera, USB-C, action button). Increased battery life is a compelling upgrade for everyone. Apple seems to be using battery life as a feature upgrade every other year too (iPhone 11/iPhone 13/now iPhone 15).
 
Or there will be car batteries, or a small nuclear power station, or dilithium crystals or fusion. The possibilities are endless.
 
If Apple did a slim phone with less battery life (the type we all used to moan about) or a thicker phone with more battery life (the type we moan about now), which would you choose?

With feature parity? Slim everytime. As long as I can get the pro features, it's a no brainer for me. If not, then I'd have to look closer at the trade-offs.
 
Referencing the mAh battery performance chart in the main article... does anyone know how or where to find the suggested number or even total number of charge cycles for each currently available iPhone? Has Apple made that data public?
 
If you use your smart phone in a healthy way, battery life should last you all day. Users who complain about battery dropping to 91% already, it’s likely you are using the device a little bit too much. Yes, I realize a smart phone can be the only computer for many. But usage should be contextual. I use a variety of communication tools throughout the day, desktop computer, laptop, phone, in person communication.

My iPhone X at 78% battery health last me a day if I don’t push it too much. Those days when it doesn’t, it’s because I’m on social media apps a bit too much.
 
New always on display features? That could also be the reason why the 5nm A16 standard devices get even bigger batteries.
So a feature that currently uses almost no power at all, will gain a couple of a features and then magically need much larger batteries? No.
 
"Update: The Weibo user behind the battery capacity rumor has now cautioned that it should be treated with caution and not taken too seriously."

Heh, well ... lol.

I've gone back to a Pro the last 2 generations and lasted about a month before going back to the Pro Max due to battery life. But this phone is not comfortable to hold or read on for long periods of time so I keep wanting to go back to the Pro.

Wish the resale on the 1TB iPhones was a bit better...
 
I agree. When reading that article all I could think of was -- thicker? Heavier!! I was actually thinking of updating my 14 Pro to a 15 Pro to get the USBc, now I'm not so sure. Maybe a 15, no Pro might be better. Guess we'll have to wait and see the actual specs.
Same. I want USB-C but this phone is already extremely thick. Personally, I would happily trade some battery life for a thinner phone.
 
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RIP lightweight iPhones.
We're already past that point. The current pro models are not just heavy, but they are unbalanced and awkward (top heavy due to cameras). I used to like slim or no cases, but frankly the thing is impossible to hold comfortably like that. By putting it in a larger, sturdier case (like the Nomad Rugged Case), it helps to redistribute the weight a little bit so the thing feels better in the hand. On top of offering the kind of drop protection that iPhone needs.

The rumored move to titanium was a glimmer of hope, but that seems to be out of necessity to offset the ever increasing weight of other components.
 
If you use your smart phone in a healthy way, battery life should last you all day. Users who complain about battery dropping to 91% already, it’s likely you are using the device a little bit too much. Yes, I realize a smart phone can be the only computer for many. But usage should be contextual. I use a variety of communication tools throughout the day, desktop computer, laptop, phone, in person communication.

My iPhone X at 78% battery health last me a day if I don’t push it too much. Those days when it doesn’t, it’s because I’m on social media apps a bit too much.
I'm finding that across the one year lifetime of my phones (I tend to upgrade every year) the battery life is very variable even with my battery health still at 100% on my launch-day 14 Pro Max.

I know it doesn't happen to everybody, and maybe only a few, but recently I've found iOS 16.x.x upgrades to be pretty disruptive in terms of battery life. For instance I updated to 16.5.1 over a week ago, which should be enough time for indexing and other unusual post-update processing to complete, yet I noticed last night that my phone lost 25% of its battery life overnight and I have automations set up to put it into low power and airplane mode for 8 hours every night and that that 25% loss was over the 8 hours when my phone was in low power and airplane mode the whole time. The battery reporting is not showing any apps using excessive resources so it was presumably down to something screwy that happened in the OS somewhere last night that didn't happened on previous nights.

In line with a post I made earlier today it's all very well Apple putting in bigger batteries (if the rumour is indeed true) but its iOS development team really should take a long hard look at itself and try and find and eliminate the causes of aberrant battery drain like this because it makes it hard to know day-to-day how your battery is going to perform even with quite light and predictable usage patterns.
 
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