Now those people on the forums saying they’ve got 100% battery health after a year can be shown for the frauds that they are when they only have 27 charge cycles.
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iPhone 15 Models Finally Show Battery's Cycle Count
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After getting a bonafide Magsafe charger to replace an Anker, non-Magsafe, wireless charger, I noticed a couple of remarkable things: 1) The charging was way faster; 2) The charge seems to last longer; 3) the iphone is cooler. It would seem that battery care seems to require Magsafe charging. Anyone else with observations?
My 2022 Macbook Air M2 battery health is 99% with 153 charge cycles is that normal I got it since launch day.
^ He's correct. I've been using Coconut Battery to track my phone health going all the way to the iPhone 4 (at least). Classic app, must-have for Macbooks.
I can think of one reason why it's limited to the 15, and it's a real stretch. The 15 also has the ability to cut off charging at 80%, which greatly increases battery life. It's possible that there's no neat way to cut off charging at 80% on older models (like, it could be done in software, but maybe the 15 is doing it in hardware?), and Apple sees the cycle count as something to be used in conjunction with the charging limit — otherwise, users will see ugly cycle counts and not really be able to do anything about them.
To be clear, I think this theory is a stretch, but it's possible.
My 2012 MBP (Battery is from Dec 2019) is at 95% with 36 cycles
That wouldn’t make sense.
If that was the case a factory reset would wipe the cycles. If coconut battery can do it why TF can’t Apple?
Innovation !!!
So now it's normal to have 350 cycles and 88% after one year and replace battery after 1.5 years?
I miss this utility I had on my Jailbroken iPhones back in the day. Was really useful especially the cable output details. Coconut battery is the next best thing that I know of for modern iPhones. Would be nice if this info popped up every time you started charging. Anyone know of something as convenient as this old Cydia app? 15 years later and iOS is still lacking so much of the awesomeness that could be had on a jailbroken phone.
Can’t wait to test this on my Pegasus infected 11pm o wait 15s only? Time to upgrade 🤡 I’m sure Pegasus will follow 🙄
It's a shame that we have these amazing devices that have such fragile and shortlived batteries inside of them. I mean I don't even like gaming on my phone because it gets hot and I know that it is bad for the battery. I still do it, but I don't like it. I wish we could replace this outdated lithium ion technology with something better like super capacitors that can charge in seconds and go for millions of cycles.
I’d disagree but I suspect my use cases are a bit more niche.
I have an office supplied iPad 9 which I use for Teams meetings (with captions), MS Office, emails, general research purposes etc. Yeah you could do all that with a craptastic Windows laptop and like most folks at my place I have an office supplied HP device but it’s so crippled by security it’s borderline useless. Battery life is shocking and our corporate VPN doesn’t play nicely with my router. Part of the security issue is that Bluetooth is locked down and I need to stream audio to my hearing aids. This isn’t the case with iPad.
I also use the Accessibility features to alert for doorbells etc. Sure, the OS isn’t Sonoma and I wish the corporate device was an Air 5, but for what it costs it doesn’t entirely suck.
Thank you for confirming what i said - It has great screen for watching youtube or movies. It is completely useless for any serious work due to Apple's unwillingness to make it useful in this area, due to their fears, that it will eat into macbook sales.
That is why this product is fundamentally flawed thanks to iOS limitations imposed by Apple. Workflow is too cumbersome.
### The Day Apple's Leaders Celebrated the "Show Battery's Cycle Count" Feature
It was a sunny day at Apple's headquarters in Cupertino, California. The top leaders of the company had assembled for a special meeting in the iconic Steve Jobs Theater. Tim Cook, Apple’s CEO, was visibly excited as he took the stage, gripping the remote in his hand.
"Ladies and gentlemen," he began, "today, we're here to talk about something truly awesome. A feature that might seem simple, but is incredibly meaningful to our users—'Show Battery's Cycle Count.'"
The room was filled with an air of anticipation. Craig Federighi, Apple's Senior Vice President of Software Engineering, was the first to respond. "Tim, I have to say, the engineering team is thrilled about this feature. It's such a straightforward metric, yet it gives our users invaluable insights into their device's health. It's just incredible!"
Phil Schiller, an Apple Fellow, known for his marketing brilliance, nodded in agreement. "This will revolutionize the way we think about battery life. It's so simple yet so awesome. Users can now make informed decisions, and that builds trust. The potential for customer satisfaction is incredible!"
Tim looked around, soaking in the enthusiasm that filled the room. "Well, I think we're all in agreement. This feature might not have the glamour of a Retina Display or the flashiness of Face ID, but it's a game-changer. Our dedication to user-centric design and transparency comes through loud and clear."
"Just imagine the relief this will bring to users who are always anxious about battery performance," added Deirdre O'Brien, Senior Vice President of Retail + People. "For them, this is not just a feature; it's peace of mind. It's amazing how a simple number can do that."
Craig Federighi jumped back into the conversation, "And don’t forget the developer community! They’ve been asking for a standardized way to access this kind of information for years. For them, it’s not just incredible; it’s a dream come true!"
Tim Cook smiled, "Well, then it’s settled. We'll give this feature the launch it deserves. We're not just enhancing functionality; we're enriching lives. And that, my friends, is truly awesome."
As the meeting adjourned, the leaders felt a collective sense of accomplishment. They had done it again, turning a simple concept into an incredible feature that promised to make the user experience simply amazing.
The end.
It was a sunny day at Apple's headquarters in Cupertino, California. The top leaders of the company had assembled for a special meeting in the iconic Steve Jobs Theater. Tim Cook, Apple’s CEO, was visibly excited as he took the stage, gripping the remote in his hand.
"Ladies and gentlemen," he began, "today, we're here to talk about something truly awesome. A feature that might seem simple, but is incredibly meaningful to our users—'Show Battery's Cycle Count.'"
The room was filled with an air of anticipation. Craig Federighi, Apple's Senior Vice President of Software Engineering, was the first to respond. "Tim, I have to say, the engineering team is thrilled about this feature. It's such a straightforward metric, yet it gives our users invaluable insights into their device's health. It's just incredible!"
Phil Schiller, an Apple Fellow, known for his marketing brilliance, nodded in agreement. "This will revolutionize the way we think about battery life. It's so simple yet so awesome. Users can now make informed decisions, and that builds trust. The potential for customer satisfaction is incredible!"
Tim looked around, soaking in the enthusiasm that filled the room. "Well, I think we're all in agreement. This feature might not have the glamour of a Retina Display or the flashiness of Face ID, but it's a game-changer. Our dedication to user-centric design and transparency comes through loud and clear."
"Just imagine the relief this will bring to users who are always anxious about battery performance," added Deirdre O'Brien, Senior Vice President of Retail + People. "For them, this is not just a feature; it's peace of mind. It's amazing how a simple number can do that."
Craig Federighi jumped back into the conversation, "And don’t forget the developer community! They’ve been asking for a standardized way to access this kind of information for years. For them, it’s not just incredible; it’s a dream come true!"
Tim Cook smiled, "Well, then it’s settled. We'll give this feature the launch it deserves. We're not just enhancing functionality; we're enriching lives. And that, my friends, is truly awesome."
As the meeting adjourned, the leaders felt a collective sense of accomplishment. They had done it again, turning a simple concept into an incredible feature that promised to make the user experience simply amazing.
The end.
What e.g. is serious work which is not possible to do? Many managers only need email and a telephone, a screen to display presentations a tool to add notices. So serious work can be done with an iphone only.
For what you need a mac for?
Do we think this will be introduced into other iPhones via software or do we think this is hardware embedded?
It's up to Apple to expand this future to other models as well, as this is a self imposed limitation by them.
The charge cycle count has been reported by the iPhone firmware for many many years and can be already read by third party software like coconut battery.
The charge cycle count has been reported by the iPhone firmware for many many years and can be already read by third party software like coconut battery.
iPhone 15 Pro (Blue 128 GB) first opened and used Friday night (9/22, 7 PM PT)
Plugged into USB while restoring via Quick Setup after first installing the 17.0.2 update. That process is quite smooth and took 2 hours for a 120 GB restore.
Cycle count at that point was 1.
Next day I went around and used it normally to break it in, took pictures. Didn't allow the battery to drop below 50%, plugged it in or used MagSafe battery pack at various points to top it off. Towards the end of the night, I checked the cycle count and it was 2. Then I went into Settings > Battery and changed it to the 80% threshold. I left it on the battery pack before I went to sleep.
Next morning the cycle count was 3. Battery was at 80% as expected. MagSafe battery pack was fully discharged.
While I appreciate the information Apple is providing with this, I'm certain that at some point I'm going to stop worrying about it because I expect to replace the battery in two years assuming that I keep the phone. I also own a decade-old EV with less than 100 miles of range, so I LIVE battery anxiety.
Plugged into USB while restoring via Quick Setup after first installing the 17.0.2 update. That process is quite smooth and took 2 hours for a 120 GB restore.
Cycle count at that point was 1.
Next day I went around and used it normally to break it in, took pictures. Didn't allow the battery to drop below 50%, plugged it in or used MagSafe battery pack at various points to top it off. Towards the end of the night, I checked the cycle count and it was 2. Then I went into Settings > Battery and changed it to the 80% threshold. I left it on the battery pack before I went to sleep.
Next morning the cycle count was 3. Battery was at 80% as expected. MagSafe battery pack was fully discharged.
While I appreciate the information Apple is providing with this, I'm certain that at some point I'm going to stop worrying about it because I expect to replace the battery in two years assuming that I keep the phone. I also own a decade-old EV with less than 100 miles of range, so I LIVE battery anxiety.
Cycle count this morning was 4 after a 100% charge (I switched from 80% to Optimize). I used the phone normally today, screen time is slightly over 3 hours so far at 2:30 PM. Battery dropped to 46%. I switched back to the 80% setting and plugged in, the idea being that I have a 90 minute commute and I'll need that extra juice to get me through it.
It's really about weighing the number of cycles vs. the battery health/lifespan. Again, probably won't matter in 2 years when I either replace the phone or the battery. One thing I noticed is that over the weekend the cycle count ticked up from 2 to 3 even though I set the limit to 80%, not 100%. It is interesting that some reviewers are reporting 4.5 hours of screen-on time regardless of settings, with all the radios active. That's probably going to be my average as well, which could be disappointing based on use case. I'll have a charger nearby nearly everywhere and a portable battery at the ready when I'm away. Batteries are made to be consumed.
It's really about weighing the number of cycles vs. the battery health/lifespan. Again, probably won't matter in 2 years when I either replace the phone or the battery. One thing I noticed is that over the weekend the cycle count ticked up from 2 to 3 even though I set the limit to 80%, not 100%. It is interesting that some reviewers are reporting 4.5 hours of screen-on time regardless of settings, with all the radios active. That's probably going to be my average as well, which could be disappointing based on use case. I'll have a charger nearby nearly everywhere and a portable battery at the ready when I'm away. Batteries are made to be consumed.