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iPhone 15 Pro Max Expected to Feature 5-6x Optical Zoom [Updated]

MayaUser said:
why? just make both iphones pro the same thickness
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right , that's why i was doubting, it seems to be mostly about thickness , so they could do it

although, both pro max and pro are the same thickness already... and it would eat in other components ,such as battery, idk

thus the need to make the pro even thicker than the max... which i doubt people would appreciate
 
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seat_hydrant said:
Usually I'd moan at the fact that they restrict high-end features on larger phones cause I think there's a huge customer base who want the top-tier phone in a small package.

But this feature looks like it'll take up so much room in the device, I can't really fault them.
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How does Samsung manage it in their smaller devices?
 
If this does end up being exclusive to the ridiculously big phablet I am going to start throwing things.
I love that the 13 and 14 did away with Max-exclusive features! Keep it going!
 
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Coming from iPhone 7 Plus, if the 6x optical zoom is indeed real, I will stay on iPhone 14 Pro Max which has 3x optical zoom... I don't think I will be needing to upgrade anytime soon, also, I have my Nikon DSLR camera which has 18mm to 55mm lens and 55mm to 300mm lens so if I need to zoom that far, I will just use my DSLR for that purpose...
 
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capamac said:
The Galaxy S22 Ultra periscope lens has an aperture of f/4.9. It's a dark, dark lens. Will be similarly dark in an iPhone.

Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra 5G - Full phone specifications

www.gsmarena.com www.gsmarena.com

f/4.9 on a phone is akin to f/29 on a DSLR.

Think full daylight photography _only_ with a lens like that.

Only way to resolve that problem would be to make the phone like an inch or two thick.
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The S22 Ultra f/4.9 periscope telephoto lens uses a tiny 1/3.52" sensor with an approximate crop factor of 9.3 => f/4.9 is about f/45 full-frame equivalent.

Much better to get cheap phone plus a Sony RX100vii compact with 24-200mm FF Eq, whose f/2.8-4.5 is about f/7.6-12: https://www.dpreview.com/products/sony/compacts/sony_dscrx100m7/overview
 
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strawbale said:
The S22 Ultra f/4.9 periscope telephoto lens uses a tiny 1/352" sensor with an approximate crop factor of 9.3 => f/4.9 is about f/45 full-frame equivalent.
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Again, „equivalent“ only for depth of field. Phones have computational „bokeh“ for that.

strawbale said:
Much better to get cheap phone plus a Sony RX100vii compact with 24-200mm FF Eq, whose f/2.8-4.5 is about f/7.6-12: https://www.dpreview.com/products/sony/compacts/sony_dscrx100m7/overview
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And it won‘t fit in any of your pockets.
 
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Curious for those who understand this better than I do. If we get 6x optical zoom, how likely is it that we are also able to keep a 3x zoom that looks at least close to optical quality?

I love having the zoom feature, but not sure I would always need 6x.

I’ll hopefully be sticking with my 13 Pro Max for one more year but it is interesting to see what is coming.
 
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MacRumors said:


While the iPhone currently maxes out at 3x optical zoom, rumors suggest that will change this year. The next-generation iPhone 15 Pro Max is widely expected to feature a so-called "periscope lens" that would allow for up to double the optical zoom.

iPhone-15-Pro-Periscope-Mock-Feature.jpg

In July 2022, Apple analyst Ming-Chi Kuo said a periscope lens would be exclusive to the high-end iPhone 15 Pro Max and enable 5-6x optical zoom. Periscope technology would be built into the Telephoto lens and allow for up to 6x zoom when shooting photos with the rear camera, without any blurriness or reduction in image quality.

With a periscope lens, light absorbed by the image sensor is bent or "folded," allowing for a greater distance between the camera elements within the compact design of a smartphone. This technology allows for increased optical zoom and is already used by some Android brands like Samsung, Google, and Huawei, with phones like the Pixel 7 Pro and Galaxy S23 Ultra offering between 5x and 10x optical zoom.

5-6x optical zoom would be a significant camera upgrade for the iPhone. Unfortunately, Kuo said the periscope lens would remain limited to the iPhone 16 Pro Max next year, meaning that the technology would only be available on the most expensive iPhone model for at least the next two and a half years or so.

Apple is expected to announce the iPhone 15 lineup in September. For more details, read our guide about iPhone periscope lens rumors.

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When the iPhone 12 series launched the Pro Max model was the only one with a larger sensor on the main camera and expanded 2.5x optical zoom, but then when the 13 series came along Apple figured out how to cram the larger image sensor and an even longer 3x optical zoom into both the smaller Pro and Pro Max models, so it will likely only be a matter of time before this makes its way into the regular Pro.
 
If Apple can change the design late as far as solid-state technology and remove the haptic feedback components, why can’t they add the periscope lens to the regular pro non-max model?
 
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Saturn1217 said:
Curious for those who understand this better than I do. If we get 6x optical zoom, how likely is it that we are also able to keep a 3x zoom that looks at least close to optical quality?

I love having the zoom feature, but not sure I would always need 6x.

I’ll hopefully be sticking with my 13 Pro Max for one more year but it is interesting to see what is coming.
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The lenses on just about all smartphones are fixed focal lengths so to add an additional zoom level they'd have add an entirely separate camera assembly.

The iPhone 14 Pro sort of solves this by allowing the 48 megapixel sensor to shoot in un-binned 12 megapixel mode, essentially taking the middle part of the image which is effectively a 2x zoom. Whereas digital zoom crops and scales to get 12 MP output this solution just crops, no scaling is required so there's no loss of detail. The downside is that by using the native sensor resolution instead of pixel binning it can lead to reduced image quality, particularly in low-light situations.
 
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Again, „equivalent“ only for depth of field. Phones have computational „bokeh“ for that.



And it won‘t fit in any of your pockets.
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other issues: diffraction and low light performance

btw: no issues fitting a RX100 in my pockets ;) (don't do jeans though)

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If Apple wants me to upgrade from my 12 Pro, they’re going to need to offer a periscope lens on the non-Max iPhone Pro.

I would loooove that telephoto zoom capability on my smartphone, but I’m not going to move up to the Max to get it. Thing won’t fit in pockets — I don’t understand the popularity of these models.
 
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