Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
Try again. The 5x is just a tele with a fixed focal length (like the 3x of the current iPhone Pros), not a zoom.
The 5X periscope zoom is an optical zoom. The zoom mechanism moves perpendicular to the sensor and lens instead of parallel like on a camera. The iPhones are just primes despite apple calling them zoom.
 
  • Like
Reactions: ipedro
5× optical zoom

The 5X periscope zoom is an optical zoom. The zoom mechanism moves perpendicular to the sensor and lens instead of parallel like on a camera. The iPhones are just primes despite apple calling them zoom.

You‘re both wrong, sorry. If it was a real optical zoom, the specs would describe the zoom range (like the Sony XPeria one). Periscope on the other phones is just a way to make a longer fixed focal length work.
 
  • Like
Reactions: brucemr
so every year it's just going to be new lens layout? apple has become so stagnant these last few years istg
 
So is the 15 Pro going to have the same crappy sensor that the 13 & 14 had for the 3x telephoto? That really makes it a hard sell IMO.
Maybe adding the periscope lens to the smaller 15 Pro necessitated a larger body, but Apple wasn’t ready to release the redesigned, slightly larger body this year. Also suppliers may give them a better deal next year so then it would make sen$e for Tim to wait until next year to let both models have it.
 
the problem here the gap between the 1x and 6x is too large and u do need extra lens like samsung ultra have 2 zoom lens or there is much of a gap. some say u can use the 48mp to crop but that isnt a perfect solution so u left with too much of a gap in the zoom. and samsung has 10x lens and in the ultra 23 they using AI to push it to about 13X according the testing i have done . u still so far behind. also i tested the ip14pro zoom appl isnt using any AI to boost the zoom. and samsung only started using AI zoom booster on the ultra 23 but this was never disclosed but i found it by running tests at bestbuy i dont own the phone. ultra 23 uses a double folded periscope
 
Last edited:
That’s such a naive statement. Apple is limiting this feature to the pro Max just because it is greedy and wants to segment the market pushing people to more expensive models. Nothing to do with technical reasons.
Of course it's just to boost the Max sales. I'm always super sad when people delude themselves to believe that some things have different reasons that just $$$. A huge chunk of Apple's fanbase is deluded.
 
That’s such a naive statement. Apple is limiting this feature to the pro Max just because it is greedy and wants to segment the market pushing people to more expensive models. Nothing to do with technical reasons.
Precisely. It's baffling when anyone at all fails to see this.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Victor Mortimer
I really wonder when a truly better camera system offering better optical zoom will come to the Pro line of phones. That’s the feature I’m most looking toward to for an upgrade. Pro Max size is typically too large.

I don't care AT ALL about the camera, I'd rather have a Pro Max size phone with a 5S camera so there's no bump.
 
Big, bigger and heavier.

It's time for Apple to do a 180, and focus on a lighter phone... compared to "mini".

And getting lighter and lighter.

The iPhone Light.

Bleh. No.

The biggest phone that exists today is still tiny compared to the brick phone I used to carry. And I didn't mind the size or weight of the brick.

As far as I'm concerned, the Pro Max would be about the right size if it was about 3x as thick and had a hot-swappable battery and no stupid camera bulge.
 
I don't care AT ALL about the camera, I'd rather have a Pro Max size phone with a 5S camera so there's no bump.
appl is coming with it 5yrs too late and 5-6x is too small appl needs to be competitive with samsung and get a 10x maybe that will be next yr

this is from pixel7pro
PXL_20230310_014622652.NIGHT~5-01~2.jpeg
 
  • Like
Reactions: ric22
It wouldn’t surprise me if Apple did this just to make the phone look physically different to encourage sales to be honest. Some people feel really elitist about the number of lenses on the back, so a different orientation would appeal to those individuals.
 
appl is coming with it 5yrs too late and 5-6x is too small appl needs to be competitive with samsung and get a 10x maybe that will be next yr

this is from pixel7pro
View attachment 2203810
You don’t need 10x to compete thes3 days due to higher MP cropping results are pretty much neck and neck

Viv, oppo, xiaomi can all beat Samsungs 10x even with less optical range
 
Register on MacRumors! This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.