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I prefer having just 3x rather than 5x and NO 3x.
No zoom level between 1x and 5x is a significant problem. 5x or more is only good when you still have the 3x option.
 
It's not an SLR camera. It's a mobile phone camera. The use of the word 'zoom' is different and refers to the ability to magnify the image you are trying to take without cropping the resolution. No one is gong to say 'let me just telephoto into my shot to get a close up', they're going to say 'let me zoom in to my shot to get a close up'. You touch a button on the screen that says 3x or 5x (on the respective camera) the shot gets tighter. From a User Experience POV, that's a zoom. Apple (and Samsung) are simply describing for people what result they're going to get.

At 3x on the 15P and 5x on the 15PM, you are 'zooming' into the image optically when compared to the field of view of the main camera. Anything between or beyond is digital. Since the user isn't actually having to change the lens physically like on an SLR/Mirrorless camera, the use of the word 'zoom' is appropriate.
Doesn't mean they can use OPTICAL zoom. That's totally different.
 
Tetraprism = hardware lens.

Digital = software induced.

You can't call a hardware a software. To be clear, it is not your traditional optical lens like those you know from traditional cameras. But it is neither digital zoom either. It has a different method paradigm. The most important thing is it works just like optical zoom, but it is not digital zoom.
Tetraprism is just a way to make a telephoto lens just like a periscope lens, not a zoom lens itself. Do you even know how a zoom lens works? Clearly, you don't. I told you, where is the zoom range if it's a zoom lens? It's just a 120mm prime lens, that's all. How does it even zoom OPTICALLY?
 
Remember when advancing technology meant smaller devices?

That was awesome…
 
thats just the old technique used on an smartphone...
That’s optical zooming, regardless of where it is; anything else is cropping and/or digital zooming. Even cameras call that kind of zooming “digital teleconverter”, not “teleconverter”. So if you want to call it zooming, which is fine, be honest about how the zooming is accomplished via digital methods and don’t call it optical zooming.
 
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lol, how does that even explain how zoom lenses work? What you said is only how the lens work, not a zoom lens. I told you, it's NOT an optical zoom. If not, where is the zoom lens with multiple focal length or why does it even have 3 lenses instead of one? I said where is the optical zoom lens? There is none on iPhone.

You clearly missed the point.

Pointless semantics, but yes is a telephoto lens, not a zoom lens.
LOL. And I thought true photographers hate zoom lens & always prefer prime. Now someone here seem to love it (not you, Ryan 😉). I wonder why.
 
The tetraprism lens design is smaller than the same periscope lens design or a traditional lens design. Sounds like advancing technology to me.
I didn’t say it wasn’t, and the premise of my comment requires it to be advancing technology to make sense.
 
Tetraprism is just a way to make a telephoto lens just like a periscope lens, not a zoom lens itself. Do you even know how a zoom lens works? Clearly, you don't. I told you, where is the zoom range if it's a zoom lens? It's just a 120mm prime lens, that's all. How does it even zoom OPTICALLY?
First: stop screaming, it's rude.
Second: stop assuming we don't know how photography works, it's double rude.
Third: stop assuming you know how the tetraprism in iPhone 15 works like digital zoom, it's triple rude.

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These are five physical parts of lenses, none of them are digital crops:
1. Macro
2. 13mm Ultra-wide f/2.2
3. 24mm f/1.78 main camera
4. 48mm equivalent FOV from the previous iPhone
5. 120mm f/2.8

There are however two digital crop "lenses" which are not part of the above:
1. 28mm FOV shift from that main camera (see note)
2. 35mm FOV shift from that main camera (see note)
There FOVs combine a 48mm detail shot into the image capture and compilation process. This gives you a 24-megapixel image which is very similar to the 24mm main camera’s standard output (excellent detail and were very usable in real-world situations).
 
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First: stop screaming, it's rude.
Second: stop assuming we don't know how photography works, it's double rude.
Third: stop assuming you know how the tetraprism in iPhone 15 works like digital zoom, it's triple rude.

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These are five physical lenses, none of them are digital crops:
1. Macro
2. 13mm Ultra-wide f/2.2
3. 24mm f/1.78 main camera
4. 48mm equivalent FOV from the previous iPhone
5. 120mm f/2.8

There are however two digital crop "lenses" which are not part of the above:
1. 28mm FOV shift from that main camera (see note)
2. 35mm FOV shift from that main camera (see note)
There FOVs combine a 48mm detail shot into the image capture and compilation process. This gives you a 24-megapixel image which is very similar to the 24mm main camera’s standard output (excellent detail and were very usable in real-world situations).


5 physical lenses? Really? Both Macro and 48mm equivalent are just part of other lenses. Clearly, you don't know about it.
 
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The point is it is "physical'. Tell me, which part of it is digital, mr who think he knows it all?
First, macro means it has more close focus distance, nothing more. How come it's a separate lens? All you have to do is move closer with wide angle lenses or any lens with close focus distance. Telephoto lenses can be macro if the close focus distance is short enough.

Second, 48mm is just CROPPED. If not, where is the camera sensor just for 48mm? Even Apple website mentioned that it's enabled by quad‑pixel sensor which is def NOT physical.

Clearly, you don't know anything about how camera works. There are only 3 lenses and therefore, it only has 3 physical lenses. Both macro and 48mm are just part of other lenses as a feature itself.

You literally can see 3 physical lenses and I have no idea wth you are saying.
 
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First, macro means it has more close focus distance. How come it's a separate lens? All you have to do is move close with wide angle lenses as they tend to have much more close focus distance compared to telephoto lenses.

Second, 48mm is just CROPPED. If not, where is the camera sensor just for 48mm?

Clearly, you don't know how camera works. There are only 3 lenses and therefore, it only has 3 physical lenses. Both macro and 48mm are just part of other lenses.
You are correct that there are not 5 physical lenses because all you have to do is look at the array to see 3 lenses; the ProMax really should have had 4 cameras because its a huge jump from the main to the 5X. Macro mode is a crop of the 13mm camera and 24MP focal length is a crop of the main 48MP camera. I’m looking froward to the camera tests because I want to see how good Apple is at upsampling in that big gap. I wonder which looks better, the Pro at 120mm or the ProMax at 77mm; I suspect the former which is why I’m getting a 15 Pro.
 
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Macro mode is a crop of the 13mm camera and 24MP is a crop of the main 48MP camera. You are correct that there are not 5 physical lenses because all you have to do is look at the array to see 3 lenses.
I am very surprised that people don't know anything about cameras and yet claiming false info without knowing camera technology.
 
I am very surprised that people don't know anything about cameras and yet claiming false info without knowing camera technology.
Isn’t that the truth.

There is no separate macro camera, so where are those photos coming from If not the ultrawide? But hey, if you don’t believe me believe Apple. There’s more going on both with image enhancing and AF in macro, but it’s still cropping the ultrawide.

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There is no separate macro camera, so where are those photos coming from?
If you are talking about close up images, then some of those lenses have close focus distance to enable macro feature. Nothing new. Like I said, wide lenses tend to have macro features due to its minimum close focus distance.

The telephoto can still use as a macro if it's within the minimum focus distance if the object is not TOO small.
 
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