iPhone 15 Pro Models Rumored to Be More Expensive

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compwiz1202 said:
It could be a rental if you trade after a year. But unless you have a high capacity model, it's more economical you pay off the installments and trade to the carrier or sell privately
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Plus a 13 pro max doesn’t need to be traded after a years, more like 3 or 4!
 
The-Real-Deal82 said:
My example includes everything for £39 which shows the gulf in price difference.

I suppose it’s only a rental on the iUP if the person exchanges the device after 12 months for a new iPhone. If they actually pay the phone off and keep it for 24 months, it’s essentially the same as a contract.
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I’m not talking about iUP, I’m just referring to monthly payment instalments.
 
mrochester said:
Yes it’s 0% finance. Effectively an unsecured loan, no need to apply for and wait for an interest free card.
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Did you get that through a loyalty scheme? Whenever I’ve looked into it it’s a significant rate of APR. Barclays it’s advertised as 14.9% at the moment.
 
The-Real-Deal82 said:
As a consumer, why would you support a manufacturer you buy products from, putting the price up? It seems an absurd stance to me.
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Speaking very generally here, if a consumer likes a manufacturer's product and wants to see the company continue to make and improve on that product, they may be supportive of a price increase to allow that to happen especially if the alternative meant the company may no longer be willing/able to make that product.

There have been people on here, for example, who have stated they would've been willing to pay a higher price (than Apple had been charging) for an iPhone mini if Apple had been willing to continue to make them as part of the 14 lineup.
 
I7guy said:
I have no issues in paying more and getting more. It’s pay same get less or pay more for the same that aggravates me.
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If only Apple applied that to the iPhones in their lineup that aren’t the Pro’s. You’re effectively paying more for an iPhone 14 that is a recycled iPhone 13 with a few improvements and one that lacks many of the features on devices cheaper on other platforms. Then again the 14 Pro was a slightly improved 13 Pro with a £150 price hike.
 
The-Real-Deal82 said:
If only Apple applied that to the iPhones in their lineup that aren’t the Pro’s. You’re effectively paying more for an iPhone 14 that is a recycled iPhone 13 with a few improvements and one that lacks many of the features on devices cheaper on other platforms. Then again the 14 Pro was a slightly improved 13 Pro with a £150 price hike.
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Someone will be along shortly to explain that it had the latest and greatest SOC from Apple and 16 minutes extra battery life.
 
The-Real-Deal82 said:
So it’s not £49.95 a month because that doesn’t include a call and data plan. That’s just for a phone and you rent it, not own it.
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£49.95/month is the current finance (not rental) price for a 128GB iPhone 14 Pro Max from Apple with £0 upfront.

Looking at a UK carrier offer example... With £30 upfront, O2 currently offers a 128GB iPhone 14 Pro Max along with a 2GB data plan with unlimited talk and text for £50.50/month. Obviously, it would be much cheaper with lesser phones.

When the original iPhone launched in 2007, the required O2 plan was a minimum of £35/month which I imagine after adjusting for inflation would be around £55/month today and that's without the cost of the phone.

The O2 deal is better (cheaper after adjusting for inflation) today WITH a phone than it was in 2007 without a phone.
 
The-Real-Deal82 said:
If only Apple applied that to the iPhones in their lineup that aren’t the Pro’s. You’re effectively paying more for an iPhone 14 that is a recycled iPhone 13 with a few improvements and one that lacks many of the features on devices cheaper on other platforms. Then again the 14 Pro was a slightly improved 13 Pro with a £150 price hike.
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The vast majority of that £150 increase is inflation. £1049 in 2021 is £1191 in November 2022.

If inflation in December is 1% (it'll be much higher), that iPhone 13 pro max that cost you £1049 in 2021 would now cost you over £1200. The 14 Pro Max is actually now cheaper than the equivalent 13 Pro Max in 2021 when it was released.
 
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webkit said:
£49.95/month is the current finance (not rental) price for a 128GB iPhone 14 Pro Max from Apple with £0 upfront.

Looking at a UK carrier offer example... With £30 upfront, O2 currently offers a 128GB iPhone 14 Pro Max along with a 2GB data plan with unlimited talk and text for £50.50/month. Obviously, it would be much cheaper with lesser phones.

When the original iPhone launched in 2007, the required O2 plan was a minimum of £35/month which I imagine after adjusting for inflation would be around £55/month today and that's without the cost of the phone.

The O2 deal is better (cheaper after adjusting for inflation) today WITH a phone than it was in 2007 without a phone.
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I just go sim only, 120gb Vodafone for £7.50pm.
 
mrochester said:
I just go sim only, 120gb Vodafone for £7.50pm.
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I'm sure there are cheaper carrier deals/plans. I was comparing O2 today against O2 in 2007 (which was the exclusive iPhone carrier at the time) as far as overall cost to a consumer. The plan portion of the price I was quoting was £18/month.
 
webkit said:
£49.95/month is the current finance (not rental) price for a 128GB iPhone 14 Pro Max from Apple with £0 upfront.

Looking at a UK carrier offer example... With £30 upfront, O2 currently offers a 128GB iPhone 14 Pro Max along with a 2GB data plan with unlimited talk and text for £50.50/month. Obviously, it would be much cheaper with lesser phones.

When the original iPhone launched in 2007, the required O2 plan was a minimum of £35/month which I imagine after adjusting for inflation would be around £55/month today and that's without the cost of the phone.

The O2 deal is better (cheaper after adjusting for inflation) today WITH a phone than it was in 2007 without a phone.
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iPhone 14 Pro Max + 2gb data is like owning a Ferrari and buying a bus pass.

The carriers know people aren't actually going to sign up for those deals..
 
Mrkevinfinnerty said:
Someone will be along shortly to explain that it had the latest and greatest SOC from Apple and 16 minutes extra battery life.
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You enjoy trolling the forums.

Okay I’ll bite. I bought a new phone this year..I didn’t get a 13PM, I bought the 14PM. For a few more dollars (from apples website)

- always on display
- sos via satellite
- crash detection
- multiple camera upgrades
- better battery life
- faster
- better display
- Bluetooth 5.3

So pay more, get more.
 
mrochester said:
The vast majority of that £150 increase is inflation. £1049 in 2021 is £1191 in November 2022.

If inflation in December is 1% (it'll be much higher), that iPhone 13 pro max that cost you £1049 in 2021 would now cost you over £1200. The 14 Pro Max is actually now cheaper than the equivalent 13 Pro Max in 2021 when it was released.
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Consumers see raw retail price and seeing as very few wages have raised in line with inflation, there’s no dressing up any other way than being more expensive. A 14 Pro is physically more expensive than the 13 Pro Max was in terms of retail price. That’s what the consumer pays at the end of the day.
 
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