Jony Ive admitted to being a fidgeter once in an interview and said the mute switch was on the phone so he could fidget with it.That’s great! Reminds me of Touch Bar. But I still want Apple to leave the Mute Button alone.
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Jony Ive admitted to being a fidgeter once in an interview and said the mute switch was on the phone so he could fidget with it.That’s great! Reminds me of Touch Bar. But I still want Apple to leave the Mute Button alone.
That's an absurd suggestion. You really want Apple to release a product to determine if it should be withdrawn? If they wanted to test it, they would make a prototype and test it internally. Perhaps that's even what they did.Apple should have released the Solid-State Buttons on iPhone Mini to determine if people like it or not.
Agreed. Apple haters spend huge amounts of their time and energy figuring out new ways to express their hate.People can be so tiring. You don’t have to like the changes but acting willfully ignorant isn’t needed either. These buttons will have new functionality and will be more durable with time and yet we always get all these comments going on about “change for change’s sake” and “solutions in search of problems” and it’s just so bizarre to me.
That would be awesome, by buttons don't even work when my battery is dead. That would be a truly impressive feat of engineering.Hope it works when the battery is dead
And they will be up at 5 AM to purchaseAgreed. Apple haters spend huge amounts of their time and energy figuring out new ways to express their hate.
If you think about it, no buttons work when a phone is dead. As long as the rumored new microprocessor runs separate from iOS and is always on with any power, then it will have no functional difference than a regular button.Hope it works when the battery is dead
Mute button will be able to be felt as much as the current switch. A simple icon on the always on display would be able to show if it was muted at a glance. The current mute switch vibrates the phone when turned on but doesn't when it is turned off. I can turn on and off the mute without looking at it. No reason it won't do the same thing.This is great until you are feeling around in your pocket or the dark to find the rocker switch or mute switch. Also you can’t tell the mute state by looking at the device. This is a stupid change…especially the mute toggle. There are just certain use cases you need physical buttons. I’ve never had the mute button or volume switch break in 16 years of iPhones. I think there are no more ways to make these phones different between generations and this is more about justifying a new device over a real innovation or saving money on warranty repairs. Someone said Apple loves selling you parts….sure….but they hate giving you parts under warranty.
So why can’t you use a different phone?There’s a difference between “willingly adjusting”, and “forced to accept it because there is no other option”.
People can be so tiring. You don’t have to like the changes but acting willfully ignorant isn’t needed either. These buttons will have new functionality and will be more durable with time and yet we always get all these comments going on about “change for change’s sake” and “solutions in search of problems” and it’s just so bizarre to me.
Obviously we're discussing a rumor, and the rumor says they are customizable. As opposed to the single use mute switch, that's more functionality. The fact they'll be more durable seems like a given considering they won't be actually moving buttons. I'm not blindly trusting new features, I'm saying they ARE new features so I don't understand the comments saying this is just a change with no reason to exist. That's all.How do you know the buttons will have new functionality and be durable with time? Are you on Apple’s developement team? Have you done long term testing of solid state volume buttons? People who blindly trust new features are going to be great and presume functionality are so tiring.
…have you taken apart an IPhone? The Taptic Engine is easier to get to compared to the buttons.Do the buttons actually failing left and right that better durability is needed? How about the extra moving parts with more Taptic Engines being put in? And which one is easier to repair, a simple button or a Taptic Engine failure?
Why do I get the feeling that this is a solution in search of a problem?
What problems do the current physical buttons have? We’ve had it for over a decade.
Wouldn’t adding a feature whose R&D costs aren’t, at best, minimally recovered have made the Mini even more expensive? Likely even more expensive the regular or even Pro model.Apple should have released the Solid-State Buttons on iPhone Mini to determine if people like it or not.
It would be interesting to have an additional Taptic Engine where the piece of plastic is that used to house the SIM card slot was. A bonus for USA phones…have you taken apart an IPhone? The Taptic Engine is easier to get to compared to the buttons.
I also think we’re not getting “more” Taptic Engine’s, I think we’re getting a revised Taptic Engine. Apple has been researching multidirectional haptics for over 5 years so I think they’re going to have more to say on haptics when this is launched.
I bet this is more about eliminating a supplier than any user or durability solution, but the apologists are out in full force.Do the buttons actually failing left and right that better durability is needed? How about the extra moving parts with more Taptic Engines being put in? And which one is easier to repair, a simple button or a Taptic Engine failure?
You misunderstood me. This isn't innovative either. Just innovation for the sake of innovation again.That criticism would be valid if this was actually innovative. 😂 This was just extension of haptic. 3D Touch was the innovation, bringing Taptic Engine in for the whole screen interface, with built in OS support.
So you’re suggesting people in five or six years stick with their iPhone 14pro because of the lack of available Pro options with physical buttons?I do understand the potential issues with this "rumor", but when you say forced, are you also implying that Apple is forcing you to buy the new phone?
Oh. I thought it would inherently be understood that iPhone is the only reasonable option.So why can’t you use a different phone?
Why is there no other option in your mind?
Every single iPhone that’s ever been released to this day has regular buttons and a mute switch, you can just… Use one of those.
Or move to Android.
Why not go with adding a new button and leaving the mute switch alone? Best of both worldsObviously we're discussing a rumor, and the rumor says they are customizable. As opposed to the single use mute switch, that's more functionality. The fact they'll be more durable seems like a given considering they won't be actually moving buttons. I'm not blindly trusting new features, I'm saying they ARE new features so I don't understand the comments saying this is just a change with no reason to exist. That's all.
Based on their track record….noMute button will be able to be felt as much as the current switch. A simple icon on the always on display would be able to show if it was muted at a glance. The current mute switch vibrates the phone when turned on but doesn't when it is turned off. I can turn on and off the mute without looking at it. No reason it won't do the same thing.
All of your concerns can be ameliorated pretty easily. The question is: will Apple do all of these things?
Never suggested that. I’m just referring to what you might define as forcing.So you’re suggesting people in five or six years stick with their iPhone 14pro because of the lack of available Pro options with physical buttons?
Ask the iPhone 6s users how well their experience is going right now.
If there are no good options, that’s how I’m defining “forcing”.Never suggested that. I’m just referring to what you might define as forcing.