PBG4 Dude
macrumors 601
Jony Ive admitted to being a fidgeter once in an interview and said the mute switch was on the phone so he could fidget with it.
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iPhone 15 Pro Solid-State Button Sensitivity Can Be Customized to Cater for Cases and Gloves
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That's an absurd suggestion. You really want Apple to release a product to determine if it should be withdrawn? If they wanted to test it, they would make a prototype and test it internally. Perhaps that's even what they did.
Agreed. Apple haters spend huge amounts of their time and energy figuring out new ways to express their hate.
Lakersfan74
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And they will be up at 5 AM to purchase
Jamo12
macrumors 6502
Mute button will be able to be felt as much as the current switch. A simple icon on the always on display would be able to show if it was muted at a glance. The current mute switch vibrates the phone when turned on but doesn't when it is turned off. I can turn on and off the mute without looking at it. No reason it won't do the same thing.
All of your concerns can be ameliorated pretty easily. The question is: will Apple do all of these things?
Lounge vibes 05
macrumors 601
Yep. I remember the outrage when Apple announced it would be going with non-mechanical trackpads on laptops.
People just love to whine. Helps their day, feeling better.
Aleh
macrumors regular
Obviously we're discussing a rumor, and the rumor says they are customizable. As opposed to the single use mute switch, that's more functionality. The fact they'll be more durable seems like a given considering they won't be actually moving buttons. I'm not blindly trusting new features, I'm saying they ARE new features so I don't understand the comments saying this is just a change with no reason to exist. That's all.
NT1440
macrumors P6
…have you taken apart an IPhone? The Taptic Engine is easier to get to compared to the buttons.
I also think we’re not getting “more” Taptic Engine’s, I think we’re getting a revised Taptic Engine. Apple has been researching multidirectional haptics for over 5 years so I think they’re going to have more to say on haptics when this is launched.
danakin
macrumors 6502
This is exactly the point the original poster was making. Need the meme of the joke going over the head.
danakin
macrumors 6502
Wouldn’t adding a feature whose R&D costs aren’t, at best, minimally recovered have made the Mini even more expensive? Likely even more expensive the regular or even Pro model.
Doesn’t sound like an intelligent approach to a model whose predecessor had already demonstrated below-expectation sales numbers.
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williamkey123
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Awesome so now whenever I put on or take off my gloves, I also have to head into Settings > Sound & Haptics > Side Buttons and drag to adjust the sensitivity. Sounds like a great plan.
Jamo12
macrumors 6502
It would be interesting to have an additional Taptic Engine where the piece of plastic is that used to house the SIM card slot was. A bonus for USA phones
Someyoungguy
macrumors 6502a
I bet this is more about eliminating a supplier than any user or durability solution, but the apologists are out in full force.
You misunderstood me. This isn't innovative either. Just innovation for the sake of innovation again.
JM
macrumors 601
So you’re suggesting people in five or six years stick with their iPhone 14pro because of the lack of available Pro options with physical buttons?
Ask the iPhone 6s users how well their experience is going right now.
JM
macrumors 601
Oh. I thought it would inherently be understood that iPhone is the only reasonable option.
And fast forward a few years. Do you think there will still be physical button options on a top-of-the-line iPhone?
platinumaqua
macrumors 6502a
Why not go with adding a new button and leaving the mute switch alone? Best of both worlds
NT1440
macrumors P6
For those not reading between the lines, this pretty much confirms the switch is piezoelectric. That means it will be pressure sensitive which opens up even more possibilities of functionality dictated by press “firmness”.
Think 3D Touch on the button.
Regular click -> primary function
Firm click -> secondary function
Click and hold for X time -> potential for another function
My guess is that the glove compatibility settings will scale what “regular” and “firm” means to compensated for the added squishiness that fabrics introduce on a click.
It also means that the button will not likely be capacitive, because that doesn’t work well in wet conditions or with gloves that don’t have conductive thread sewn in.
IF the volume button is capacitive however, that means slide actions are probably going to be a thing for volume control.
Think 3D Touch on the button.
Regular click -> primary function
Firm click -> secondary function
Click and hold for X time -> potential for another function
My guess is that the glove compatibility settings will scale what “regular” and “firm” means to compensated for the added squishiness that fabrics introduce on a click.
It also means that the button will not likely be capacitive, because that doesn’t work well in wet conditions or with gloves that don’t have conductive thread sewn in.
IF the volume button is capacitive however, that means slide actions are probably going to be a thing for volume control.
BellSystem
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Based on their track record….no
xanderville
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JM
macrumors 601
If there are no good options, that’s how I’m defining “forcing”.
Yeah, yeah… everything’s a choice (I understand the rational argument for that). But you have to practice some basic comprehension and reading of inference to understand what I mean by “forcing” here.