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I don’t think more speed will move the sales needle much, though more battery life might. They have been making strides to increase battery life with each year’s iphones recently. Periscope zoom is another one that might make people jump the gun.
 
Nobody [gross majority] is thinking their phone is slow anymore to trigger a mass upgrade.
I agree. This report seems like someone trying to pump. Phones have been fast enough for most users for years now. A handful of fans upgrade yearly, but I think most people are keeping their phones a lot longer now. Anecdotally, pretty much everyone I know has an older iPhone. A few friends are still rocking the iPhone 6s. No one is interested in upgrading. Most people I know finally upgrade when they break the phone.
 
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I suspect they might have something like useable hardware Ray Tracing. Agree with most of you that a faster iPhone alone won’t get people to upgrade when recent ones have all been very fast, they need a new good feature that is only on the new iPhone.

Chip companies almost always design their chips to a specific TDP (wattage). Apple will likely use the efficiency improvements on faster speeds instead of more battery life.
Yes, but in the race to idle, this can increase battery life.

In a mobile phone as long as you didn’t have to double or more power draw to get double the performance you’ll be saving battery.
 
While MacRumors talks up slimmer bezels and newer processors (like new processors last year, the year before that, and the year before that, too), you ought to read about some real changes in smartphone design that were shown off at this year's Mobile World Congress 2023:

The most exciting thing for me was a 1 inch sensor. Such a sesnsor, with improved optical lens would be a real jump in performance.

Interestingly, the repairable phone has a much shorter upgrade cycle than most.
 
If the rumors are to be believed the 15pro is going to really be leaps and bounds better than the 14pro in almost every conceivable way. Reading all this makes me regret having purchased the 14pro!
The only impediment I see coming for the 15 Pro lineup would be the disappointing omission of the periscope lens for the smaller 15 Pro that the 15 Pro Max is rumored to get exclusively. For that, it’s worth waiting for the 16 Pro that is rumored to get it after that big new feature trickles down from the 15 Pro Max.
 
I was like you when I kept holding onto my 7 because of the Touch ID.....Since upgrading to the 13 Pro, wouldn't use Touch ID again! The battery life was a revelation as well 😳
As to the bugs.....what bugs? I haven't come across any!
I still use a mask a lot and don’t want to look straight at my phone when my eyes aren’t adjusted to bright light, so FaceID isn’t to my preference.

As for not coming across any bugs… I mean… I can’t comprehend how little you must use things. Tech is near universally broken
 
As for not coming across any bugs… I mean… I can’t comprehend how little you must use things. Tech is near universally broken
Care to share a few? I find myself using my iOS devices more of late (in part due to my longer commute to Uni, plus using my iPad Pro for note taking) and I can't really say I have come across any noteworthy bugs that have really soured the overall user experience.
 
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Interestingly, the repairable phone has a much shorter upgrade cycle than most.

Really? I recall looking at Fairphone a few weeks ago and they had a very good support policy, indicating phones are held onto longer.

As for not coming across any bugs… I mean… I can’t comprehend how little you must use things. Tech is near universally broken

I can’t agree. The big computing OS’es like Windows, MacOS and Linux tend to ship with some bugs, but iOS does pretty well, it is nearly bug-free in normal use.
 
Really? I recall looking at Fairphone a few weeks ago and they had a very good support policy, indicating phones are held onto longer.

I was referring to the phone referenced in the article linked by the OP; it was specifically called out for a shorter than most upgrade cycle. It appears to be reparable but with a planned obsolescence built in.
 
I couldn't care less about the new SoC.

USB-C is literally the one and only thing that's holding me back.
 
If the rumors are to be believed the 15pro is going to really be leaps and bounds better than the 14pro in almost every conceivable way. Reading all this makes me regret having purchased the 14pro!
A possible new port and a new chip. I don't see how those main things trump everything about the 14 pro. Am I missing something?
 
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Apple, of all companies, should be championing breakthroughs in battery technology. There should be a bigger battery focus. All other features here are incremental tweaks at the moment.

Incremental now... I have a feeling we're in the calm before the AR/VR storm, similar to 2007 before the iPhone. That took several years to build momentum, but it changed everything.
 
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Care to share a few? I find myself using my iOS devices more of late (in part due to my longer commute to Uni, plus using my iPad Pro for note taking) and I can't really say I have come across any noteworthy bugs that have really soured the overall user experience.
Oh just trawl through my post history. I’m so burned out on all of this. I’ve been reporting bugs to Apple and talking about them on here for years. They almost never fix anything I’ve reported despite them being obvious.

Here are a few quickies: keyboard fails to be visible or present when I’m on websites or even in iMessage. No known trigger, but possibly a lot of task switching and use of quick reply sheets. Task switching on my iPad perpetually shows every app ever opened, despite them being closed. Makes switching between actual running apps a PITA with the command-tab keyboard command. Tons of keyboard behaviors in both tapping and swiping modes, including suggestions not being inserted when tapped, repeatedly.

And on and on and on…
 
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Really? I recall looking at Fairphone a few weeks ago and they had a very good support policy, indicating phones are held onto longer.



I can’t agree. The big computing OS’es like Windows, MacOS and Linux tend to ship with some bugs, but iOS does pretty well, it is nearly bug-free in normal use.
Define “normal use”. I use my phone all day and I encounter bugs all day. What’s “abnormal” about my use?
 
Define “normal use”. I use my phone all day and I encounter bugs all day. What’s “abnormal” about my use?

Well, I use my phone most days for about 3 hrs screentime. I use WhatsApp and Notes and Photos pretty intensively, sometimes Pages, Books, Calendar, Contacts, Mail. The only bug I regularly encounter is that copy-paste between my ipad and my iphone doesn’t always work.
 
Care to share a few? I find myself using my iOS devices more of late (in part due to my longer commute to Uni, plus using my iPad Pro for note taking) and I can't really say I have come across any noteworthy bugs that have really soured the overall user experience.
Don't think I've seen any vital ones lately, but CarPlay always seems to be an issue. When I had iPhone, and with my wife now, it will randomly not connect even with restarts, and suddenly another time it works. And even when it does work for here, it takes much longer to show the yellow on the CP icon. It used to be near instant. AA has never failed. GM did some in the the beginning but has been fine for months now.
 
A possible new port and a new chip. I don't see how those main things trump everything about the 14 pro. Am I missing something?
Periscope lens is a massive jump from what we have plus a rumoured new Sony sensor for improved photos which hopefully mean better image processing as currently 14 pros can really struggle With bad HDR and overall processing in some settings
 
Periscope lens is a massive jump from what we have plus a rumoured new Sony sensor for improved photos which hopefully mean better image processing as currently 14 pros can really struggle With bad HDR and overall processing in some settings
Yes, but isn't HDR pure software related thing? I doubt this can't be fixed with software. I don't believe, that there is connection with the sensor or SoC.
 
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