iPhone 15 Pro's Next-Gen Chip Capabilities Expected to Spark Upgrade Demand Among Current iPhone Owners

[bigjnyc]

I upgraded from 13 Pro Max to a 14 for one feature, the satellite sos and location addition. With well timed trade in values, promotions, no interest the cost is worth it. What's described so far about the 15, don't care about USB-C, hasn't blown my skirt up yet

Same here with USB-C... I don't even remember the last time I plugged my phone in. I have a wireless charger at home and wireless charger in my car... and with icloud photo and apple music I don't have the need to plug in to my computer for any reason..... So USB-C won't really make any difference for me.

 

[dumastudetto]

That makes no sense.
CPUs don't age. They remain with the same power until they break.
What happens is some apps keep adding more advanced features to app or using more sophisticated APIs, which demand a faster processor.

It makes no sense but you've essentially nailed the point I was making here. The software (both OS and Apps) is being developed to take advantage of the new hardware and that is what ages your CPU.

 

[bobcomer]

That's not enough of an improvement to upgrade a 14 Pro. Now if they add touch-id, then maybe.

 

[doolar]

I'm upgrading from my 13 Pro to a 15 Pro Max. I need the bigger display these days, and I look forward to rounded egdes, I'm really hoping that rumour is true. I really miss the rounded form from my old XS, every time I handle that phone (my son use it now) I think it feels so much better in the hand, and it looks great. The 13 Pro is a bit meh design wise, apart from that it's a great iPhone for sure, and my son will be so happy getting it of course.

 

[Joe Dohn]

It makes no sense but you've essentially nailed the point I was making here. The software (both OS and Apps) is being developed to take advantage of the new hardware and that is what ages your CPU.

The problem is that isn't really. The only thing that has advanced in the last few years is the camera. If you don't use that monstrous 4K resolution, you're not even making much use of it.

Aside from that, there's nothing a 2023 iPhone can do that a 2015 iPhone can't.
There WOULD be, if Apple didn't block many features.

Oh, have I mentioned Apple now wants an age restriction (17+) to GPT-powered apps?
So there you go.

 

[scrapesleon]

Nobody [gross majority] is thinking their phone is slow anymore to trigger a mass upgrade.

News flash apple about to slow down older iPhones lol

 

[4odomi]

I’m considering it myself. I bought an iPhone SE3 specifically because I wasn’t ready to buy a new and very expensive upper-range iPhone (which I want for the updated camera tech, but hate the loss of TouchID and physical buttons).

I will likely turn my SE3 over to my girlfriend, who’s said she’s considering moving to the least expensive iPhone possible.

I’m sure Apple could still screw it up somehow, with the continued pathology of “minimalism” and greedy pricing… and software flaws. They continue to not fix the monstrous pile of bugs accumulating in their software, and I’m beyond fed up with this industry’s arrogance and the credulousness of its cult-like supporters of “nothing’s perfect” and “you just don’t understand tech” excuses.

I was like you when I kept holding onto my 7 because of the Touch ID.....Since upgrading to the 13 Pro, wouldn't use Touch ID again! The battery life was a revelation as well 😳
As to the bugs.....what bugs? I haven't come across any!

 

[Joe Dohn]

News flash apple about to slow down older iPhones lol

If they do that, an Antitrust lawsuit will follow soon. People are already keeping an eye on them after the battery fiasco.
But even more importantly, that would be another reason that could make users move from an iPhone to an Android phone.

 

[4odomi]

I'd imagine USB-C sparking more upgrades than a performance bump.

Only a tiny minority, mainly content creators

 

[4odomi]

Whoopie!!! CrippleOS now xx.x% faster than before.

Give me a proper OS that can use the large screen and has access to the terminal and file system.
It's powerful enough to be an entire computer, so give us the option to use it as one.

If you make an Ultra and it comes with Mac OS so that I can plug it into a 4k monitor and use it with a mouse and keyboard to do regular MacOS things (and with iOS "mode" for commuting / bed use, etc) then I will order it the moment it goes on sale...

...and then promptly duck away from the airborne porcine hordes...

Get an Android, they're all convince it's a computer as well 🤣

 

[GFLPraxis]

Nobody [gross majority] is thinking their phone is slow anymore to trigger a mass upgrade.

I agree, but I think this is bound to change soon.

Machine learning models that can be run locally are growing increasingly efficient and powerful. However, they are RAM hungry and require accelerator chips.

We might see a lot more powerful functionality coming that will require an upgrade. Like locally running text to speech models that use 1-2 GB of RAM to run but are WAY WAY more accurate than Siri, just to give a low-creativity example.


I feel like we are approaching territory where Apple’s limitations are posing an issue though. I suspect an iPhone 15 could run Windows 11 ARM faster than most Microsoft Surface products in a VM if Apple allowed it, then output it over AirPlay.

 

[sir1963nz]

Not for me it wont.
The iPhone is a tool, how many emojis and other worthless junk it has does not make that tool better.
It is not a fashion item.
I have not bought a new Apps for 5-6 years, I have what I need.
No music/book/tv purchases or subscriptions.
When the iphone I have dies, I will take another look at all the options, including not having one.

I do not even bother to watch Apples developer etc showtime glitzes, there is nothing in them that interests me.
I will not update my computers to Ventura, the system prefs are such a bastardisation of good design I will not inflict it on myself.

I have just converted a lab of 40 iMacs into Windows VDI clients because it was a better choice management wise.

I have owned Mac since the 512KE, and have 7 at home ranging from a 2004 Mac Mini to a M1 MBA, have 4 iPads, 4 ATVs, so I am not anti Apple. I have just hopped off the update roundabout.

 

[WarmWinterHat]

News flash apple about to slow down older iPhones lol

What do you base this on? I didn't happen with my 8, I didn't happen with my 6s, or my 5 or my 4 or my 3g.

 

[fourthtunz]

The problem is that isn't really. The only thing that has advanced in the last few years is the camera. If you don't use that monstrous 4K resolution, you're not even making much use of it.

Aside from that, there's nothing a 2023 iPhone can do that a 2015 iPhone can't.
There WOULD be, if Apple didn't block many features.

Oh, have I mentioned Apple now wants an age restriction (17+) to GPT-powered apps?
So there you go.

Well the lenses on the new cameras are better, bigger batteries, better modems, better bluetooth,
more storage etc, lots of reasons I wouldn't want to still be on my iPhone 6

 

[phenste]

everyone’s already given the obvious (and spot-on) take that no “replacement demand” is going to be sparked by a processor upgrade, especially when iPhone has been the most powerful phone for years. (anyone gonna come out with a viable Face ID competitor soon?)

however—I wonder if the improvements are mainly going to be AR-based, as that has long been iPhone’s weak spot (and we all know AR is where Apple’s headed). anyone tried using the Measure app (your answer is already probably “no,” but) for more than two minutes? phone gets crazy hot and battery drains quick. it’s absurd for a company that has long claimed AR to be the “future.”

it will also be interesting to see if the A17 provides a major battery boost—not just an hour, but say, five hours. my 14PM isn’t going anywhere any time soon, but that’d be neato.

 

[albebaubles]

because average user requests Dev privileges to run apps in the background?
could you be anymore ignorant? you must be one of the people who complains about iOS beta bugs thinking it's official release.. get out of here nerd.

lol you calling me ignorant. Developer since the beginning. But hey, you be you.

 

[4odomi]

I might be in the minority, but my 13 Pro is plenty fast and a spec bump and some sort of marketing explanation that the chip is 35% more powerful will do exactly nothing for me and will not get me to upgrade.

Features, camera behavior, size, weight, size of camera bump. I'll upgrade for those, depending what they are. More RAM and faster chip are meaningless to me.

Much better photo processing, a bigger zoom and the disappearance of flares in night photos & videos, might drag me away from my 13 pro, making it slightly smaller and much lighter would be another reason, as well as getting rid of the horrible camera bumps, those are the things I look at

 

[compwiz1202]

The problem is that isn't really. The only thing that has advanced in the last few years is the camera. If you don't use that monstrous 4K resolution, you're not even making much use of it.

Aside from that, there's nothing a 2023 iPhone can do that a 2015 iPhone can't.
There WOULD be, if Apple didn't block many features.

Oh, have I mentioned Apple now wants an age restriction (17+) to GPT-powered apps?
So there you go.

Yea the only camera improvements I like anymore are better low light and optical zoom. Why do we need bazillion MP. Am I going to print posters?

 

[dumastudetto]

The problem is that isn't really. The only thing that has advanced in the last few years is the camera. If you don't use that monstrous 4K resolution, you're not even making much use of it.

Aside from that, there's nothing a 2023 iPhone can do that a 2015 iPhone can't.
There WOULD be, if Apple didn't block many features.

Oh, have I mentioned Apple now wants an age restriction (17+) to GPT-powered apps?
So there you go.

A 2015 iPhone can't even run iOS 16 so that locks you out of tons of current apps, features, experiences and technologies that newer iPhones can take advantage of.

 

[KENESS]

Okay again. Apple recognizes that the upgrade cycle average is 3 years now. I don’t know how else to say this.

... Nevermind.

 

[Sbstndalton]

Chip companies almost always design their chips to a specific TDP (wattage). Apple will likely use the efficiency improvements on faster speeds instead of more battery life.

Well, technically it’s an efficiency boost anyways, because it can either do the same task faster, or the same task in the same amount of time, with less power.

 

[bobcomer]

anyone tried using the Measure app (your answer is already probably “no,” but) for more than two minutes? phone gets crazy hot and battery drains quick. it’s absurd for a company that has long claimed AR to be the “future.”

I actually have, believe it or not. And yes, it gets hot, but my 14 Pro gets hot anytime my camera is on for any length of time.

 

[jlc1978]

News flash apple about to slow down older iPhones lol

News flash: Apple drops support in older phones, for some iOS new features; user scream Apple is lying about why they did it.

No matter what Apple does the message board illiterati will scream about “Apple’s Greed” and “They’re doing that to force us to upgrade…”

If they do that, an Antitrust lawsuit will follow soon.

For what? Releasing an OS that is more powerful and runs slower on older phones?

People have a choice not to upgrade and keep their phone performing as they are used to it working.

People are already keeping an eye on them after the battery fiasco.
But even more importantly, that would be another reason that could make users move from an iPhone to an Android phone.

Right. Considering the loyalty rate generally in the 80 - 90% range historically. More likely is upgrading to a newer, faster iPhone.

 

[Sammy in SoCal]

I wish I could’ve posted on this earlier, but now that we’re 200 posts in nobody’s going to care or bother to read this thread at this point. I’ve missed my chance to make a witty remark to get reactions. 🙁

 

[jlc1978]

Yea the only camera improvements I like anymore are better low light and optical zoom. Why do we need bazillion MP. Am I going to print posters?

It depends on the pixel design. More pixels, properly implemented, can improve low light performance since more information is captured. However, I agree if all a manufacturer is doing is framing more smaller pixels in then it is a misleading specification.