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macrumors G4
Oct 10, 2011
still an iphone under all that nice tech they will always ruin it with forced sharpening filter is beauty filters to skin

I've never had an iPhone photo ruined from forced sharpening. Perhaps because I always shoot in RAW format and post process in Lightroom.
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macrumors 6502a
Mar 4, 2018
This is my next iPhone coming from a 13 max … looking good. Hoping for no notch if possible.


macrumors regular
Dec 16, 2009
Once again, why do you think people should be shelling out money for a new phone every year? When your existing phone no longer meets your needs, buy a new phone. If you wait a few years between phones, the new one will have significant improvements. Otherwise you are setting yourself up for disappointment.
If you think apple doesn’t want, and try to get, people to buy a new phone every single year, then YOU’RE delusional.


macrumors regular
Dec 16, 2009
I disagree. Apple is a consumer products company, so yes, they offer products at different price points.

Their Quality and Quality control is still the BEST. Compare the cheapest iPad to any comparably priced Android tablet. Compare Apple's low end laptops (lol) to comparably priced windows laptops.

Not every one wants to spend the $ for the top of the line.
Compare the price of the cheapest iPad with the cheapest android tablet, and there is your answer - Apple isn’t providing quality and quality control for free. It’s rolled into the price. It’s not unique to Apple to have a high quality product. They just charge more. You can get an android tablet for less than $100. If whatever android tablet manufacturer wanted to sell a premium product, they’d just add $300+ to the price like Apple does.

And in any case, your whole point has nothing to do with my argument about the iPhone and Apple desperately clinging to camera enhancements as the upgrade carrot, because they’ve got nothing else.

No one chooses to upgrade their current iPhone for a new iPhone because of ‘quality control’. And my point was that the days of people upgrading for, at best, a minor camera upgrade (unless you pretend you’re an important photographer), are gone. Apple needs to up their game. They are such followers now.


macrumors 68040
Jun 22, 2011
If you think apple doesn’t want, and try to get, people to buy a new phone every single year, then YOU’RE delusional.
I’m sure that they would love that but they have to realize, based on the customer data that they have, that is not what most people are doing. They need to plan their business accordingly.


macrumors 6502
Apr 1, 2018
Sacramento, CA
It still won't beat the 1 inch sensors some of the phones already have (on the technical side, otherwise those phones have ****** image processing). Also they need to add a special coating to reduce lens flare (like those mentioned phones) because they've been clearly lacking in that area.
I can usually tell an iPhone sunset shot just by the green dot alone.
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