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iPhone 15 USB-C Cables Without MFi Badge May Have Data Transfer and Charging Speed Limits
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I’m not sure you could even get close to 1 billion without losing some…
And this they spend millions of dollars on perfecting.
Nothing beats Apple when it comes to how cheap they can be to their customers.
Then they say stuff like “we are always listening to our users”.
Only if their users stop buying their products will they listen.
Until then they are always listening to their investors.
Nothing beats Apple when it comes to how cheap they can be to their customers.
Then they say stuff like “we are always listening to our users”.
Only if their users stop buying their products will they listen.
Until then they are always listening to their investors.
How would they cripple your phone? Would charging be any different than what you have now?
It might technically be allowed, but everybody involved here knows that isn’t what the legislation’s intent was. I hope they amend it to make this illegal in the future.
The way people are freaking out you’d think MFi was the biggest revenue driver on Apple’s P&L. In actuality it’s probably a rounding error.
... and yet Apple seems (allegeldy) hellbent on keeping the program running.
Case in point: The Macbook Pros and Mac Pro. In 2013 the Mac Pro went to a small trash can shape and was horrible. It thermal throttled, lacked internal expandability, and was overall objectively worse than the Mac Pros before it. Many professionals just stopped using it and went PC, and it sold so poorly Apple had to go on a public apology tour admitting they were wrong and that a proper Mac Pro that they want would be coming. The iMac Pro came as a bandaid until the real Mac Pro could arrive, and in 2019 it did as the 2019 Mac Pro had everything Pros wanted, with the only negative being the absurd price
Then came the Macbook Pros. In 2016 we got this meme:
Hands down, the worst Macs Apple ever made. USB-C only, the touchbar, for a while no physical escape key, laptops so thin they thermal throttled and ran worse than the 2015 15 inch MBP, and of course the butterfly keyboard which needs no introduction. Pros and the public voted with their wallets, and now we got the amazing godtier 14/16 inch M1/M2 Pro/Max Macbook Pros that brought legacy ports back, isn't impossibly thin, and is just amazing pro laptops that we wanted.
If it’s working why wouldn’t they? I’m curious what kind of cables people are buying. I only buy cables and power adapters from companies I know are reputable, like Anker. Those companies are also MFi certified. I’d be too afraid to buy some cheap thing on Amazon.
The EU legislators have to tread carefully because private companies can and will challenge onerous regulations. The EU courts might agree it is reasonable to mandate a certain port shape and size, but might not agree that the electrical protocols also need to be mandated as that prevents private companies from being able to differentiate their products from one other another and is a restraint on allowing the free market from choosing what products and features are desirable.
Apple's actions suggest otherwise. If it weren't important to Apple, they would have switched to USB-C a half-decade ago and conformed their own devices to the industry standard like everyone else.
There is no valid technical reason for this move, despite whatever Apple is trying to sell you.
This is insane. USB-C ports on the Macbooks and iPads don't have these restrictions, why would the iPhones need them?
I really hope Apple is slapped down by the EU courts if they decide to do this. Enough is freaking enough.
I really hope Apple is slapped down by the EU courts if they decide to do this. Enough is freaking enough.
We'll have to wait and see, and I get what you are saying. For example if the iphone 15 can support charging with 100 watts, but only with an MFI cable, it could be deemed they are crippling those cables....unless there is a reason to force the use of mfi which we are not aware of.
There’s no technical reason for it at all. It’s all about control, and revenue. And that’s fine. Let the free market decide if they want that or not. If they don’t, people won’t buy iPhones or apple cables.
It basically highlights how regulation often doesn’t actually work.
I doubt there’ll be a cable in the box. The whole point of the legislation is to make it so no cables or charging bricks are included as you use your existing cables.
Proprietary stuff on top USB-C is nothing new. Pretty much each Chinese OEM has their own proprietary fast charging tech that only works with their specific cable and chargers on top of USB-C.
Mac and iPad "niche." Yeah you keep reaching buddy.
Report: Mac and iPad still dominating worldwide PC market in Q1 2022 - 9to5Mac
In Q1 2022, the worldwide PC and tablet shipments fell 3% annually, but Apple is still reigning with its Mac and iPad lineups.
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Apple now totally dominates ARM-based PC market thanks to M1
ARM-powered machines now represent almost 10% of the whole PC market
Do they make as much money as the iPhone? Obviously no. Are they "niche?" Also no.
The entire point of the legislation was to make this standardized. There is no function in differentiating devices based on charge information using proprietary systems. This would create mountains of pointless e-waste. Any USB-C cable ever produced up to this point will be unable to charge the iPhone at full speed for no reason.
Hey buddy, how many iphones are in active use? How many ipads? How many Macs? Whats the percentage of iphones to the total? Ipads to the total? If the percentage is small enough, would that be considered niche?Mac and iPad "niche." Yeah you keep reaching buddy.
Report: Mac and iPad still dominating worldwide PC market in Q1 2022 - 9to5Mac
In Q1 2022, the worldwide PC and tablet shipments fell 3% annually, but Apple is still reigning with its Mac and iPad lineups.
Apple now totally dominates ARM-based PC market thanks to M1
ARM-powered machines now represent almost 10% of the whole PC marketwww.techradar.com
Do they make as much money as the iPhone? Obviously no. Are they "niche?" Also no.
Well, it's not new. I would say it's more d-baggy because it's a universal standard port.... but they already throttle wireless charging which is also open.
Wouldn't expect anything less out of Cupertino.
I don’t think that will be the case. iPhones already support USB-PD. USB-C cables that properly support USB-PD already requires certain handshake between the charger, cable, and device, so it’s nothing new.
We get it, you're an iPhone phone warrer who hates when people criticize the trillion dollar fruit computer company and will look for any excuse to excuse bad decisions made to the iPhone because you hate to admit when they do something wrong.