The handshake is part of the standard which every device ever made with USB C already supports. Apple adding their own makes nothing but e-waste.
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iPhone 15 USB-C Cables Without MFi Badge May Have Data Transfer and Charging Speed Limits
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Absolutely amazing. People just love to be outraged about something. Even if that something is an unproven rumor. LOL. These rumors are a dime a dozen these days (this statement gets better with time, lol).
OMG IM TOTALLY QUITTING APPLE NOW, IT IS THE WORST COMPANY ON THE EARTH, NO OTHER COMPANY EVEN DOES 1/1000th WHAT APPLE DOES. SCUMBAG TIMMY COOK. APPLE IS DOOMED FOR SURE NOW.
At least it's driving Macrumors clicks and making Macrumors $. Good grief.
Haha, no worries, EU have put this requirement on apple and Every manufacturer must support USB Power-delivery 3.0 as a backup if the manufacturer’s proprietary charging standards isn’t supported.
Wait so you're saying all this outrage is completely pointless because PD will have to be supported? LOL
Yeah I don't respect that. That just shows you have little concern for the greater good, pretty shameful.
Well, even if this were true, I doubt Apple’s addition would change anything, unless Apple introduces their own faster proprietary charging (which all the Chinese OEMs are doing). But the device itself will still be USB-PD compliant and works with proper USB-PD cables. Worst come to worst, he Mfi chip has been reverse engineered by the Chinese, and there will be plenty of cheap cables hat would work just fine.
I wouldn’t be too paranoid over this rumor. Apple has other cow to milk, aka MagSafe.
Yep, if they don’t support it they would be fined for it. It’s part of the standard EU made that will come in to effect in 2024.
So yea it’s completely pointless outrage.
The silver lining is that this might help address the issue around so many dodgy USB-C cables. I can totally see non-Apple users buying them because they know the cable would be made to spec.
as for making money on this? Yeah that blows. Maybe spin off the MFi program into a non-profit entity that exists on its own and funds itself through those fees…
as for making money on this? Yeah that blows. Maybe spin off the MFi program into a non-profit entity that exists on its own and funds itself through those fees…
Exactly. And I doubt this rumor is valid anyway. Apple doesn’t really have solid reason when they already put plain USB-PD on their MacBooks and iPads. Besides, they already have a new cow to milk, MagSafe.
Just way I think - the way Apple's quarterly earning statements point at - there's a LOT bigger cash cows it's milking... Like others have posted, cables are an afterthought, a rounding error. Services alone are exploding.
But your point stands. MagSafe alone most likely makes Apple exponentially more $ than this move would. lol.
No. But I would expect an individual like @I7guy to have some integrity; not a lot to ask for from the general public / consumers.
It's not as crazy as people think. Reason: the innumerable standards from USB-IF with the USB Type C connector that confuse the heck out of everyone. Apple may be looking for cables that have a STRICT adherence to the USB-IF standard, which could actually save a lot of grief.
It is quite offending to mean people you disagree with are not able to read.
USB-C is not just about cables but also about accessories.
I quote the first sentence of the article:
"Apple's iPhone 15 series will officially only support USB-C accessories that have been certified by Apple's own Made for iPhone (MFi) program, potentially limiting the functionality of accessories not approved by Apple, an established leaker has now claimed."
First, this paragraph refers to accessories, not cables.
Second, one can expect USB-C compatibility to mean more than just a physical connector shape.
For instance, many people use keyboards with their mobile devices and this sentence implies that they should only expect to work keyboards "that have been certified by Apple's own Made for iPhone (MFi) program". Not the best news of the day.
Third, charging is not only about the cable but also the chargers. This rumor casts some doubt on what will happen with a USB-C compliant but not "MFI certified" charger. Not so good either
Finally, the whole article is based on rumors, so we cannot be sure quite yet what will happen: it is urgent to wait.
This is why I think this rumor won’t come to fruition. Why should Apple spend money doing this chip, when they themselves will be going wireless, and MagSafe already offers more sales through the various accessories. Also, all those effort will be reverse engineered by the Chinese within a short time, just like the current Mfi chip. It probably not cost effective, and the current Apple prefers cost cutting whenever possible to maximize profit.
Yeah... sadly it's always a race to the bottom with outrage. Helps people start their day feeling better.
this is the first ever mention of them removing the cable from the box that I’ve heard.
Obviously their ultimate goal is to ship the phone with absolutely nothing in the smallest box possible, but… Apple isn’t stupid.
Also, I could be wrong, but there are several countries where including a charger with a mobile device is pretty much required.
So I don’t think they are quite ready to make that step just yet, especially since this will be the *first* iPhone with a Newport in 11 years.
Yes. I would still expect Belkin to make MFI compliant USB-C cables tho. They will simply have both versions available eventually, for different retail vendors/pegs.
I mean… But here’s the thing.
Did anyone for a second *not* expect something like this? Especially for a standard as messy as USB-C?
There’s USB 2.0 cables, 3.0 cables, 3.1 cables, thunderbolt cables, cables that can output video, cables that can’t output video, cables that can fast charge, cables that can’t fast charge…
Of course Apple was going to release their own cable that works the best with their own devices.
They always have, even back in the day.
First of all, there have been absolutely no rumors saying that the iPhone 15 will not come without a cable.
When they remove the headphones from the box, it was reported on endlessly.
When they removed the wall adapter from the box, it was reported on even more, long before that phone released.
But absolutely nothing when it comes to not including a cable in the box.
So the safe assumption is that they will include a cable in the box of every iPhone 15 or 15 Pro, and that cable will be made by Apple.
There’s absolutely nothing new here, cheap three dollar cables you can buy at gas stations are crappier than Apple’s.
There’s nothing new, there’s nothing groundbreaking, there’s nothing really that controversial about this story.
If you use high-quality cables, you’ll get a high-quality experience.
If you use low quality cables that you can find cheaply… They probably won’t perform as well. Just like third-party lightning cables, the phone will probably charge slower, you’ll probably get an annoying warning every couple of days and you’ll probably be totally and completely restricted to 2.0 speeds.
But it’s really not that big of a deal, people who care about fast charging and fast transfer speeds already are going to have a cable that supports all that, the one that comes in the box.
If they need a new cable, it’s pretty common sense that $30 cables are gonna perform better than three dollar cables.
Sure, Apple obviously has selfish reasons for doing this. Of course they do, they’re a corporation, they’re going to do things like this.
But the actual effect it will have on people is pretty much zero, because 95%… No, I’ll go even higher, 98% of people buying these phones are just going to use the cable that’s included.
Basically compatibility and functionality will be there. Advanced functionality will require approved cables/accessories, so they don't destroy your iPhone.
It's really ridiculous to assume otherwise.
Apple will sell billions of new $49 USB-C iPhone cables and chargers. We love being green! (money!)
This was me from four months ago, and everyone said I was insane:
“Apple has this pop-up in iOS, it sounds a little something like this:
“This accessory cannot be verified.”
There’s more to it but you get the point.
I fully expect this pop-up to quickly become very common when people pick up their new iPhones, stick some $1.50 USB-C cable that came with some random gadget into their iPhone and it doesn’t like it.
I fully expect Apple to do everything in their power to make sure you are using their USB-C cables, and only their USB-C cables.”
Funny to see that this actually might come to fruition.
“Apple has this pop-up in iOS, it sounds a little something like this:
“This accessory cannot be verified.”
There’s more to it but you get the point.
I fully expect this pop-up to quickly become very common when people pick up their new iPhones, stick some $1.50 USB-C cable that came with some random gadget into their iPhone and it doesn’t like it.
I fully expect Apple to do everything in their power to make sure you are using their USB-C cables, and only their USB-C cables.”
Funny to see that this actually might come to fruition.