iPhone 16 Demand Dips Among Teens, But Interest in Apple Intelligence Could Still Spur Upgrades

The-Real-Deal82 said:
Apple need to get out of the pattern of releasing hardware and telling its customers that the software isn’t ready and will follow in a few months. The 16 launch was all about AI, yet many of us have had our iPhones for a few weeks now and it’s this weird period of waiting for it. Launch it in one go and live up to expectations I say. They’ve got the money and resources as so many of their more avid fans like to tell us, so let’s have a complete launch.
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But they can‘t when you think about it. The iPhone is to Apple what the PlayStation is to Sony. It’s their flagship products and it generates too much revenue for their respective companies.
 
SebCohen said:
You’re actually right about all your observations here. But I pers have never seen Apple getting THIS much flack from the “home crowd” without actually making something that doesn’t work or that breaks.

I’m calling Innovators Dilemma, but a weird one. Because they are trying to innovate with the vision. But nobody really wants that. And my wager is, “nobody” ever really will. They innovated with the first iPhone, but EVERYONE already wanted that. Everyone was ready. And vision is Apple’s Meataverse. Sinking too much money and resources into a DOA (consumer). And they neglect the iPhone. And fans are well…offended? Disappointed at least. This year’s iPhone isn’t even a 15S. It’s a 15SS. Perhaps even a 14SS….
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I attribute a lot of what’s gets said to three things: 1) those who don’t like Tim Cook and don’t understand what he’s done for apple. 2) a vocal minority 3) people who throw stuff against the wall just because; especially long critical rants without a grain of substance.

But for this thread a “dip” by teens may or may not be real. Teen tastes can flip faster a burger at a burger joint. And who knows when 18.1 drops it may be the greatest thing since sliced bread and sales will go through the roof.
 
The-Real-Deal82 said:
Apple need to get out of the pattern of releasing hardware and telling its customers that the software isn’t ready and will follow in a few months. The 16 launch was all about AI, yet many of us have had our iPhones for a few weeks now and it’s this weird period of waiting for it. Launch it in one go and live up to expectations I say. They’ve got the money and resources as so many of their more avid fans like to tell us, so let’s have a complete launch.
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What would you have proposed? Apple "rush" to get AI out before it was ready so it can be included with the traditional September launch OR delay launching the new model line by several months and go against years of annual September launches, miss important holiday sales season, etc.?

Not everyone cares about or is entirely sold on "AI" yet so I don't think delaying the rollout is as "damaging" as delaying the launch of the 16 lineup could've been.
 
webkit said:
What would you have proposed? Apple "rush" to get AI out before it was ready so it can be included with the traditional September launch OR delay launching the new model line by several months and go against years of annual September launches, miss important holiday sales season, etc.?

Not everyone cares about or is entirely sold on "AI" yet so I don't think delaying the rollout is as "damaging" as delaying the launch of the 16 lineup could've been.
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No, either not base the whole keynote around it or start the program years earlier like their competitors so they aren’t in a position where they are rushing or releasing iPhone based on it, without it. I don’t charge for that advice btw.
 
iMac The Knife said:
I'm not sure what you qualify as 'kids', but there are between 12-15% fewer teenagers working today in the US than there were twenty years ago, depending on the source.
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And what does the rate of teenagers working have to do with what I said lol. I’m not talking teen rates. I simply said there are teens who work and teens who pay for their own phones and services
 
apple intelligence will be popular due to how apple will market it and make people interested. Thats what seperates them and others. They get people interested
 
I remember when I was a teenager, I wanted a computer so I could “learn computers” and become smart like the scientists in the movies. I got a card with $20 in it, + the instruction to go get a job at the foundry for the rest. lol

A new pocket-sized supercomputer every year or so huh? Kids these days must be hyper computer-literate megageniuses.
 
scorpio vega said:
And what does the rate of teenagers working have to do with what I said lol. I’m not talking teen rates. I simply said there are teens who work and teens who pay for their own phones and services
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"Kids these days actually have jobs." Compared to when? That is my point.
 
Hank001 said:
Are they? I've never seen a difference when displays were upgraded from LCD to OLED. Don't see a difference in 60Hz, 90Hz or 120Hz. Don't see a difference in added pixels. Only time I saw a difference was with the higher res on the iPad3 and iPhone4.

I don't see the difference. And neither do any of my friends and family. Nor colleagues.
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That reminds me of people who didn't see a difference between DVD and Blu-ray.
 
Heat_Fan89 said:
But they can‘t when you think about it. The iPhone is to Apple what the PlayStation is to Sony. It’s their flagship products and it generates too much revenue for their respective companies.
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I agree. Imagine Apple saying "Sorry folks, no iPhone this September: you'll have to wait a few extra months this time around because our software isn't ready"… Ouch. Maybe if Apple were a private company, but being a listed company, forget it.
 
iMac The Knife said:
"Kids these days actually have jobs." Compared to when? That is my point.
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Your point is irrelevant since that one sentence wasn’t even the point of my original post lmao.

Ppl were saying that kids don’t buy or pay for their phones and my point was kids nowadays do have jobs to buy stuff they want.
 
scorpio vega said:
Your point is irrelevant since that one sentence wasn’t even the point of my original post lmao.

Ppl were saying that kids don’t buy or pay for their phones and my point was kids nowadays do have jobs to buy stuff they want.
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My point is completely relevant to what I quoted from your post. But, there is no need to continue on with this thread. Onwards and upwards.
 
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