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After experiencing ChatGPT, Midjourney, Copilot and Adobe Generative Fill, it's going to take Apple A LOT to impress me next year.

A slightly beefed-up Siri and Shortcut app will not cut it, let alone pushing me to upgrade by hardware locking it to next iPhone/MacBook.
 
Before any of this happens Apple / Siri need to be able to unlock my iPhone with my voice which it cannot presently do now, its voice authenticated already when Siri is set up . So why can’t Apple enable Siri to unlock my iPhone ?
Security is the main reason
 
very much seems like Al is going to be what every brand will be focusing on going forward.
 
After experiencing ChatGPT, Midjourney, Copilot and Adobe Generative Fill, it's going to take Apple A LOT to impress me next year.

A slightly beefed-up Siri and Shortcut app will not cut it, let alone pushing me to upgrade by hardware locking it to next iPhone/MacBook.
Different people get impressed by different things 😆
 
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Of no interest to me personally. Don’t recall the last time I used Siri and Alexa I only use to turn on / off lights or to start playing music. Something about having to think of what to even say is too much work for me. I rather press a button somewhere
The last time I used Siri for something like that was a little over an hour ago. My phone was on the night stand and my watch on the charger so it is easier to ask Siri to do something than to get up, grab a device, and press a button.
 
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I don't care much for Apps integration with AI.
I just need a Siri that can answer most of my questions, like gpt does, but with voice. That will make me satisfied as far as AI is concerned.
 
I foretell - Restricted to iPhone 16 running iOS 18.6 or later, available only in the US some 8 months after the launch of iPhone 16 and we’ll still charge you more for the lack of functionality outside of the US!🙈😂
 
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Agreed. Many of the "exclusives" would work equally well on hardware that is just a year or two old.
Yeah, but future features aren't guaranteed with that hardware. If Apple can make more money pushing you to buy a newer phone, they will.. and they should. The entire purpose of a business is generating profit, after all.
 
“Where this patina of AI integration crosses over into new hardware requirements is still unknown.”​
Unknown, but we can make an educated guess.

It will definitely require new hardware — at least according to Apple.

You must, you shall upgrade your devices, even if only a year old, to get the new Apple GPT AI and LLM Siri. It's the most powerful iPhone, iPad, and Mac we're ever made. Yours for only X,X99.99.*​
*Our customers always think they’re paying less because we use the $X,X99 and $…99 pricing scheme.
 
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Er, the extra button is blatently a Sony-style 2-stage camera button.
 
these "software exclusives" are getting very silly
Apple still has some progress to do in order to reach Google's level of sillyness though, so expect the worse in the near future.
For the record, Google touts its latest Pixel 8 phones to be AI beasts thx to the Tensor G3. Thing is, some of their newest AI features are exclusive to the Pro version (both regular and pro share the same SoC)... and even on the Pro, most of the AI magic happens on the cloud! What a joke...

On another note, given the small gains we have now with the newest and super expensive process nodes, I guess we'll mostly have very minor incremental perf updates from now on (some may say we already have small updates).
N3E is marginally better than N3B. N2 may arrive in 2 to 3 years with small gains on its own, but it's hard to say how expensive it will be to develop for. So it's safe to assume that 2025/2026 phones perfs won't be that much faster than A17/8G3/D9300, which does not leave too many room for large AI perf increases. We'll get to the ~50Tops range that seems to be the baseline for windows 11 PC, and good enough for current AI stuff. But more than that?

This is what may ultimately save our phones from the AI craze: they won't be able to get the required level of perfs for insane stuff anytime soon. That or maybe it will be vendors greed trying to lock AI stuff behing paid subscriptions :)
Or maybe most consumers will see this AI stuff as a marketing gimmick not worth the price for a new phone.
What an interesting time to be alive.
 
Odd numbers have always been better than even in my experience ie: 11 pro much better than 10 & 10s, 13 pro much better than 12 pro now 15 Pro much better than 14 Pro.
My next upgrade will be 17 Pro (from 13 Pro) or until all the camera's are 48 mega Pixels, even then, I would resist the 16 Pro very hard
iPhone 4, iPhone 6, and X(10) were by far the best iPhone launches ever.
 


Apple at WWDC 2024 will reveal a turbo-charged version of Siri powered by large language models (LLMs) that will debut in iOS 18, but some new cutting-edge generative AI features could be exclusive to iPhone 16 models, according to a new rumor.

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Last month, Bloomberg reporter Mark Gurman revealed that Apple is developing a large array of features that use generative AI, including a "smarter version of Siri" and new LLM-based AI features that will be baked into iOS 18 and iPadOS 18.

Gurman said Apple was still debating whether to limit generative AI to on-device processing, deploy it via the cloud, or adopt a hybrid approach combining the two. It was not mentioned either way whether some AI features would require specific hardware architecture or trickle down to all models capable of running iOS 18.

However, according to new information independently shared by the leaker @Tech_Reve, iOS 18 will bring the company's new LLM to millions of existing devices by using cloud-based AI, while new on-device AI features will likely remain exclusive to the iPhone 16.

In terms of iOS 18 features, Gurman's sources mention a revamped interaction between ‌Siri‌ and the Messages app, enabling users to field complex questions and auto-complete sentences more effectively. We may also see auto-generated Apple Music playlists and integration with productivity apps like Pages and Keynote, such as AI-assisted writing and slide deck creation. Where this patina of AI integration crosses over into new hardware requirements is still unknown.

Apple is designing new A-series chips for the iPhone 16 lineup, built on TSMC's latest N3E 3-nanometer node. Efficiency and performance improvements are of course expected, but there could be other benefits that feed into Apple's AI intentions. Notably, TSMC is the sole manufacturer for Nvidia's powerful H100 and A100 AI processors, the hardware that powers AI tools like ChatGPT and which also comprises the majority of AI data centers.

All models in the iPhone 16 series are also rumored to have an extra button that we don't know the purpose of yet. Internal versions of the iPhone 16 that Apple is working on include an extra capacitive button, known internally as the "Capture Button."

The button is located on the same side as the Power button, and is a capacitive button that is able to detect pressure and touch, providing haptic feedback when pressed. There has been no word yet on what this button might be used for, but it could conceivably have unforeseen practical AI applications.

Apple is said to be on course to spend $1 billion per year on AI research, with some of the company's biggest executive names overseeing development, including senior vice president of software engineering Craig Federighi, senior vice president of machine learning and AI strategy John Giannandrea, and senior vice president of services Eddy Cue.

Article Link: iPhone 16 Likely to Get Exclusive AI Features in iOS 18
I literally (meaning had a physical reaction) cringed when I read the name "Eddy Cue" being involved in Apple's AI future. Fire this guy. Everything he touches is subpar.
 
If Apple puts their LLM behind a hardware requirement then people are just going to continue using other models that they already have apps for on their device. And if it's really not going to be out until next autumn, Apple might already be too late. This tech is blasting past them at the speed of light. Why switch to a first generation model that probably doesn't work as well? Because you know it isn't. Apple has really dropped the ball when it comes to AI, and I think someday looking back it may be viewed as their biggest blunder of the post-Steve Jobs era. I hope they can save it, but real talk: they fumbled this hard.
 
There is nothing that signifies the complete lack of innovation in the iPhone line more then adding a new button each year.

The big selling point of the first iPhone was having big screen and no buttons and now they want to make a new button the star of the show.

I have the iPhone 14pro and the UI for the new action button is just a joke. Could they be more grandiose about a fricking button?

There is nothing that signifies the complete lack of innovation in the iPhone line more then adding a new button each year.

The big selling point of the first iPhone was having big screen and no buttons and now they want to make a new button the star of the show.

I have the iPhone 14pro and the UI for the new action button is just a joke. Could they be more grandiose about a fricking button?
So just wondering how did you manage to get an action button on your 14 Pro. As far as I knew it was only on the 15 pro models. Did you modify your 14 to have one? 😋
 
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It would already be a blessing if Siri would reliably switch on/off the lights and stops playing random music while I'm in a conference call.
 
The neural engine in the 15 Pro just got twice as fast to 35 TOPS, funny enough still nearly double the M3. Just seems like a mild shame for those buyers if the next hardware exclusive AI features, at least for running fast locally, are already requiring the 16 Pro instead of really targeting and differentiating that first.
 
Siri still to this day gives me cafés on the other side of Earth when I'm looking for one, and cannot answer basic questions such as "How far is Portland Oregon from Oregon City Oregon?" (I'm not in the US, but that should not be an issue regarding this question)
I just tried this and Siri responded quickly and correctly. This is why I don't believe the vast majority of the assertions made on the forum.
 
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I just tried this and Siri responded quickly and correctly. This is why I don't believe the vast majority of the assertions made on the forum.
I think what is really being said is that Siri is inconsistent. She may often give the correct answer and then turn around and give the wrong answer to the same question. We need to be able to depend on consistency before anything else.
 
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