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Newsflash : most regular people have never heard of MagSafe and charge their phones using a cable.
That's only the case for people not already owning an iPhone 12 or newer. This is why Apple is marketing the 16e to iPhone XR and 11 owners.
 
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People understand that, they actually do care about the magnets.
Loads of comments on this thread how people charge / don’t charge wirelessly and how this is a deal breaker.

I get it, I love my MagSafe charger, but we should keep things factual rather than “I won’t buy this as i charge my phone wirelessly and apple removed it from the 16e”

On a different note, every single thread on iPhones is “make the phone ticker worn more battery life, stop adding gimmicky stuff bla bla”. Apple launches a phone with much better battery life than the one it’s replacing and people complain about not having every feature of 16pro.

I for one, I much more care about the lack of the precise findmy functionality…
 
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I think it is for the person who is looking to mainly use the 16e as a phone and not as a camera or computer replacement. Too many on YouTube and here are overthinking the obvious.
No they aren't, because if it isn't for the camera or compute, then why go for the iPhone 16e at all? You get locked out of half of the iPhone's ecosystem due to the lack of MagSafe, and you'll find more feature complete iPhones for the same price if your happy with last year's device. And if you're not doing it for Apple/iOS at all... well... there are *much* better phones out there for this or lower prices.

The lack of a high refresh rate screen on a $600 phone is astonishing. The old notch design was dated the day it came out over 7 years ago, and yet here it is again while much cheaper phones only need a punch hole (and yeah yeah "but FaceID", that is a problem other manufacturers solved years ago too). The general lack of a fingerprint reader (on any iPhone for that matter) is just stupid.

The only notable thing at this price point is the A18 - which isn't a top-of-the-line chip either. But that's undercut by the fact that this phone has practically nothing that will ever benefit from the processing and performance it delivers.

And just like every other iPhone, Apple will probably enforce the MSRP for this device too, which will make its price even more ridiculous as time goes on (although maybe given the 16e name they'll begin doing yearly updates to warrant the price staying the same), while alternatives continue to get cheaper over time.
 
There seems to be a lot of hyperbole on this thread from posters who seem to have missed the mark. This is a phone aimed at people who haven’t upgraded in 5-6 years, teenagers and your aunt. They might never have had MagSafe to begin with nor be used to an extra camera. There is a reason Apple compares it to the iPhone 11 in the marketing stats. £600 for a phone to last another 6 years that gives you the reliability of an Apple device isn’t to be sniffed at.

It doesn’t matter that it doesn’t have MagSafe or a wide camera or sensor shift OIS or even that it doesn’t support video out; the people buying this thing will never miss them.

To put it another way it’s like a forum of F1 drivers complaining that a Fiat 500 won’t win any races.
 
For what it is, the price seems to be US$50 too high. For a successor to the 2022 iPhone SE, it's something else entirely.

I've been debating whether to just have my battery replaced in my 2022 iPhone SE. Then I saw a deal on the OnePlus 13R with 120 Hz OLED display, Snapdragon 8 Gen 3, 12 GB of RAM, and 256 GB of storage for US$599. I found the older 8T reasonable.

I'm leaning toward Android now. I don't want a half-baked experiment from Apple.
 
So, would Steve Jobs look at this device and say why?

Why not just make iPhone, different sizes.
 
For what it is, the price seems to be US$50 too high. For a successor to the 2022 iPhone SE, it's something else entirely.

I've been debating whether to just have my battery replaced in my 2022 iPhone SE. Then I saw a deal on the OnePlus 13R with 120 Hz OLED display, Snapdragon 8 Gen 3, 12 GB of RAM, and 256 GB of storage for US$599. I found the older 8T reasonable.

I'm leaning toward Android now. I don't want a half-baked experiment from Apple.
This is an Apple site so it will have a lot of die hard Apple fans. But the competition is really good and there is a lot of choice, quality out there from different companies

I’ve started looking at Samsung tablets as an alternative to iPad.
 
I feel like the primary reason for the iPhone 16e to exist (at this price point), is to upsell customers into the just ever so slightly more expensive iPhone 16.
 
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Loads of comments on this thread how people charge / don’t charge wirelessly and how this is a deal breaker.

I get it, I love my MagSafe charger, but we should keep things factual rather than “I won’t buy this as i charge my phone wirelessly and apple removed it from the 16e”

On a different note, every single thread on iPhones is “make the phone ticker worn more battery life, stop adding gimmicky stuff bla bla”. Apple launches a phone with much better battery life than the one it’s replacing and people complain about not having every feature of 16pro.

I for one, I much more care about the lack of the precise findmy functionality…
You’re right! I have a 16 Pro which obviously have MagSafe and honestly I don’t care, I charge it with a cable.
 
MKBHD says he doesn’t know who he would recommend this phone to. That’s how I feel about it. I don’t know who it’s for. On the Upgrade podcast, Casey Liss speculated the target audience might be corporations who offer phones to their employees.
I think it’ll deliver 95% of the experience of the regular 16 at 75% the cost. Unless you’re heavily invested in MagSafe or use the ultra wide camera a lot, it’s basically going to be the same experience as the regular 16. All the other differences (modem, WiFi support, Dynamic Island, etc) aren’t going to be meaningful or even perceptible to a huge % of users.
 
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I have a 13 mini. I’m upgrading to this because I like my 13 mini but the battery needs replacing and its lightning connector is an extra cable at this point. I am used to the notch. My MacBook has one. I have WiFi 6 in the home. There is no benefit to me in better WiFi until APs are supporting 2.5G+ Ethernet ports to my switch at 1GB prices. Right now Apple offers £170 trade in but £90 to replace battery.16e has so much more battery life and interval for replacement will be longer. Seems pointless to get a battery when Apple intelllgence is a differentiator, even if it Ai fails I have more ram. My headphones and speakers support Bluetooth 5.3 so I might benefit from more efficient battery usage with them. I have a wireless charging plate on the nightstand. I don’t want a magnet, I would knock more stuff off the nightstand fighting it nor do I want to buy another charging thing. I listen to podcasts as well as phone things and use my phone with some home automation toys as a remote. Better camera is useful in a pinch but I still like my Nikon Z5 for actual photography because it’s fun. I would buy an iPhone 16 mini but that’s not happening. iPhone 16e seems like it’s made for me really. I don’t see it as an SE line but a mini replacement. Do I wish it was cheaper? Of course but I also wish a car I bought 10 years ago for £18k didn’t sell for £30k. Apple is way down the list of companies I have a gripe with.
 
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The phone looks like 2010ish mobile with the latest crippled A18 chip with 8 GB RAM which is the only highlight of this mobile. But competitors have much better options for $600-$900 range. You can get double the RAM, far bigger the screen, far better display resolution, refresh speed, wireless charging, far advanced camera setup etc…We are not even talking about mid range ones from the competitors world! This one is only for those serious Apple fans who want to spend $600 for nothing.
 
I feel like the primary reason for the iPhone 16e to exist (at this price point), is to upsell customers into the just ever so slightly more expensive iPhone 16.
Apple sell a great many of their base-level devices (16e, iPad 10 etc) in bulk to enterprise. The iPhone SE is used as a business phone everywhere. It makes a lot of economic sense to strip out a lot of what will be minor afterthoughts to that market, your OIS and Video out etc to raise the margins. Ultimately Apple exist to make money and probably have a profit margin percentage on every device they must achieve through design and engineering.
 
The phone looks like 2010ish mobile with the latest crippled A18 chip with 8 GB RAM which is the only highlight of this mobile. But competitors have much better options for $600-$900 range. You can get double the RAM, far bigger the screen, far better display resolution, refresh speed, wireless charging, far advanced camera setup etc…We are not even talking about mid range ones from the competitors world! This one is only for those serious Apple fans who want to spend $600 for nothing.
Competitors all run Android though so the comparisons are largely moot. If we were on a PC thread comparing a Macbook Air to Windows laptops I'm sure software and OS would be front an centre on many users opinions.

Android is pretty decent but it lacks the stability, animations, reliability and premium app options of iOS. That for me is a dealbreaker right there.
 
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From the article: "There are a few reasons you might want to consider purchasing a regular iPhone 16 for $799 instead…"
You might give it more consideration knowing that the iPhone 16 is available everywhere for $699, not $799!
 
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