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They need space for the FaceID components if it's really that thin, so housing them in there as well makes sense. Looks like a Pixel clone tho lol.
No they don't.
Look at iPad Pro. Even thinner, and it encompasses faceid.
 
This. Specifically, because the FaceId sensors and the front facing camera for the under-screen implementation will both need to be bigger in order to maintain quality levels... and the elongated camera bump will more effectively accommodate them.
Exactly. This is why the camera bump will be this horizontal hump for the entire lineup.
 
The iPad front cameras are terrible compared to the iPhone. Center stage forces an ultra wide camera that’s terribly grainy
the only difference is how big you see the image on the screen. The iPhone one would su*k too if the screen was 10 inches.
 
Sorry to be that guy but Apple are idiots for as long as they keep going without making a 5.4 inch "mini" phone.

Right now there are rumors of both a new SE and and "Air" that are supposedly 6.1 inch phones at the same time that we have two mainstream iPhone lines already with a similar form factor. Like we need four new options for 6.1+ inch iPhones and no option for the 5.4 inch design that many people think is the best of all iPhones ever made.
 
Are Apple basically abandoning spacial video? This will be two updated models in their lineup of iPhones that only have a single camera.

Yes, the Vision Pro is a massive flop, but you have to figure that cheaper versions are coming along with AR glasses at some point and it would be nice to already have a load of captured spacial video ready to go in 2030 or whenever they arrive.
 
the tweet is pretty clear that this is "iPhone 17" however this article is showing it as "17 air". now everyone in the comments is misled and confused.
 
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One could conceptually hold this phone portrait to shoot landscape to avoid that problem....

In software prompt, let user choose if they want to capture a portrait video or a landscape or spatial video. In all cases, they hold the phone in portrait.
That could work, and if this horizontal camera cartouche makes it to the multi-camera iPhone 17 models, it would also allow people who for some reason insist on shooting in portrait mode to also shoot in spatial mode, but the tradeoff is that the "viewfinder" view in the camera app while shooting in landscape mode with the iPhone held vertically will be much smaller, squeezed into the comparatively narrow width of the display, than when the iPhone is held in landscape orientation. I don't think Apple will show the viewfinder view, when the iPhone is held vertically and the user is shooting in landscape mode, in true landscape fashion across most of the display, since it would be rotated 90 degrees and would look weird.

Win some, lose some. But the result, if this is how things are headed, is pretty clumsy.

The proper way to do spatial photos and videos in both portrait and landscape mode is to have a camera at both of the two upper corners, and a third camera further down below the camera that's in the upper left corner when viewed from the rear, since this provides something closer to the average person's interpupillary distance than the current camera layout. But Apple won't do that.
 
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the tweet is pretty clear that this is "iPhone 17" however this article is showing it as "17 air". now everyone in the comments is misled and confused.
LOL, that could be the whole problem right there. Like you say, Majin Bu's tweet says nothing about these case prototypes as possibly being for the Air.
 
I guess one could argue this would be good in that it'd lie tilted slightly up for potentially a bit easier viewing, without rocking.

I hate that iPhones lie slightly tilted up

it's a weird personally neurosis to be sure

I'm happy to admit that

but I'd really like my iPhone to just sit flat on the table
 
Tim needs to go ASAP. They need some fresh blood in this company and someone with the same spirit Jobs had when it comes to minimizing product lines. The iPad lineup is a confusing mess. The iPhone lineup is quickly becoming the same. Keep it simple you idiots. It should be

iPad
iPad Pro

iPhone
iPhone Pro

Apple Watch
Apple Watch Pro (Replaces retarded ‘Ultra’ moniker)

Macbook
MacBook Pro

Mac Mini
Mac Mini Pro (Replaces Mac Studio)

iMac
iMac Pro

I don’t understand why this is so hard. What are they even doing over there in that space ship? And don’t even get me started on the state of software lately.
I agree with you to a degree. Changing the CEO can be a risky move, as it could potentially damage a company’s reputation. Just look at Intel, for example. I'd keep Tim.
 
I hate that iPhones lie slightly tilted up

it's a weird personally neurosis to be sure

I'm happy to admit that

but I'd really like my iPhone to just sit flat on the table
I can see that would be nice, but we probably won't get iPhones like that again any time soon, at least not until metalenses become commercially viable for phones. These have nano-scale patterns etched into them which bend, focus, and filter light similar to traditional lenses, but much thinner.

In the meantime, given that when an iPhone is on a table and tilted slightly upward at its top end due to its camera bump, there's some "wasted" air space between the iPhone's rear housing and the table that might best be filled with a slight wedge design for the rear of the housing, tapering up and out from the bottom of the rear of the housing, becoming flush with the camera bump and wrapping around the empty space to the right of the bump. This would eliminate the need for a separate camera bump, creating a smoother rear surface that wouldn't snag on pockets, etc., and it would eliminate rocking, and it might also allow for a significantly bigger battery, or at least moving some of the bulk of the battery upward might also allow the thinner lower half of the housing, where most people hold a phone, to be thinner than the current iPhones, thus being a kind of hybrid housing between the rumored Air and the other iPhones, with battery volume and life at least equal to non-Air iPhones. It would also make it visually distinct from other manufacturers' phones, which I understand is one of the factors that Apple considers important for branding.

Hard to say how this might actually feel in the hand without making a mockup. A 3D printer could do it, but a lot of people could bash one out of just a piece of wood. Maybe an iPhone case manufacturer might want to try making a prototype wedge case which is also a pass-through Magsafe battery. The existing thin flat Magsafe battery packs, since they protrude further from the back of the iPhone than the camera bump, almost "solve" the issue of the camera bump making the iPhone rock when on a table (except across the iPhone's top underside, which just hangs out in space past the battery pack), but even the thinnest battery packs make the iPhone effectively much thicker, which I'm guessing some people don't like.
 
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VERY skeptical of this being real at all. It's a photo of some random dog**** in a bag, and frankly I'm hoping this "leak" is a fake they put out there to trick the rumor mills.

And honestly, people, get a grip. I see so many comments here reacting as if you just saw Tim Cook unveil this on a stage 🤣
 
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