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iPhone 17 Air's Limited Battery Capacity Leaked

"Of course, you can only directly compare mAh values when the batteries have the same voltage, with Wh a preferred unit of measurement."

Aren't Wh a measurement of power, not voltage?
 
iPhone air with battery case to mitigate the problem making it the thickness or thicker than the pro, or a pro with a regular case the same size as the air with one and identical battery. lol. Surely these leaks have it wrong. At least in the “mitigation” justification, if nothing else. Just seems silly.
 
I TOLD y'all that if Apple is marketing a battery case for this phone, for the first time ever and only for the iPhone 17 Air, it was a red flag!
BOOYAH!
 
JohnC1959 said:
yeah. I'm going to go to some car website and complain about some car that I would never buy in a million years. While I'm at it I'll complain about how this or that car only changed a little from year to year.
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An excellent analogy.
 
Make a really thin phone… sell a battery case to make it heavier than the normal phone.

Somewhere the Signature Box 3 looks like a good idea.

OKAY!
 
Biro said:
I am fascinated. Please explain in detail how the iPhone 16e is an epic failure. Go ahead. I’ll wait.
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I think it just feels like an epic failure for this crowd because the people in this crowd wouldn't buy it, and thus there's almost no discussion about it on here.
 
Meanwhile Android manufacturers already using silicon battery with 80W charging speed at minimum and the battery health only drops to 97% after a year of usage. This is scam.
 
JohnC1959 said:
The Air will have limited battery, but there's some good news. You don't have to buy it. If you want a new phone you can get one of the others. Meanwhile, those that value light and thin over battery have their new option as well. I personally don't need thin and light but I've learned others do.
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Why don't Apple just use silicon carbon battery with 80W charging speed that only takes like 12 minutes to finish if you need to recharge from 50% at mid day. Don't tell me about faster degrading battery health with high output charger because Many Android phones with 80-120W chargers (included) can retain 97% of battery health after a year.
 
aleni said:
Why don't Apple just use silicon carbon battery with 80W charging speed that only takes like 12 minutes to finish if you need to recharge from 50% at mid day. Don't tell me about faster degrading battery health with high output charger because Many Android phones with 80-120W chargers (included) can retain 97% of battery health after a year.
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Neither is Samsung using silicon carbon yet . I assume there may be some issues both face such as cost, availability, etc..
Edit: I've read that there are a few reasons. One minor one is US regulations related to batteries over 20Wh. But a bigger reason is currently they have shorter lifespans.
 
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I understand that some of you don’t see this as a major issue, either because you’re usually near a charger or don’t use your phone heavily.

But I believe this is a mistake, precisely because this model marks the most dramatic shift we’ve seen in recent releases. It’s going to generate a lot of excitement, and many people will rush to buy it simply because it feels new and different. But that buzz could quickly turn into backlash. Realistically, battery life is likely to be disappointing, especially as the device ages. And while a few users may only spend 30 minutes a day on their phone, the U.S. national average is closer to 3.5 hours. That gap between expectation and reality could lead to a wave of frustration once the initial hype fades.

We’ve seen this before with the iPhone 12 mini. People complained about battery life, and that device at least had the advantage of a smaller screen and a relatively niche audience. This new model, with its large display and mainstream appeal, is unlikely to age any better, and might actually age worse. Time will tell.
 
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ignatius345 said:
I'm so rarely away from charging (office, car, etc) that it's frankly quite rare that my phone is below 50% when I go to bed. On days of travel or whatever, I could see it being an issue but then I'd probably not be averse to this rumored charge case. Devil is in the details, but tbh it's not a dealbreaker for me ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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True, but if you're sitting in an ER waiting room for 12+ hours, you might feel differently about having longer battery life on your phone. Quite frankly, I think Apple could make both a super thin phone and a phone that's twice as thick as the current model for both types of customers to accommodate those that want a super long battery life.

While I understand the average person doesn't sit in an ER waiting room for 12 hours regularly, there are other scenarios where it would be helpful. Going camping for a couple of nights and forgot your charger? No problem, the battery is big enough to last a few days. 20 hour flight and you forgot your cord? No problem, the battery will last the whole flight.
 
aleni said:
Why don't Apple just use silicon carbon battery with 80W charging speed that only takes like 12 minutes to finish if you need to recharge from 50% at mid day. Don't tell me about faster degrading battery health with high output charger because Many Android phones with 80-120W chargers (included) can retain 97% of battery health after a year.
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That would require Apple to take a risk -- something Tim Cook doesn't like to do.

The iPhone is no longer geared towards power users with bleeding edge technology. They are geared towards grandma and 12 year old Sally.
 
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Return Zero said:
I don’t get why this is so divisive. You can still buy the pro model if you need bigger batteries. This is just another choice. The mini had the same issue and yet was still highly praised by most owners. This will be the same. The 2nd or 3rd gen will get a nice bump with silicon carbon batteries or whatever (after they get a bit more of the kinks worked out). The extra-thin R&D will help with the foldable too. Everyone will have more choices to suit their individual lives. That’s a win.

I have MagSafe and fast chargers at home, in the office, and in the car. Literally never have to worry about low charge except in very rare circumstances. Bring it on, 2800mah and all!!
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I work in the industry. The mini series was a joke and not highly praised by owners. The batteries in those things are terrible and never lasted long in day-to-day usage, and also for longevity.

There are many reasons why that series doesn't exist anymore.
 
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With such a small battery and a large screen, don't think any kind of adaptive battery mode will give a complete day's battery. Looks like will have to recharge in between the day.
 
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jrlcopy said:
This is the iPhone 5C thing all over again.

Finally give us a 'somewhat' decent color, but nerf it with something that makes it suck compared to others.
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Tim Cook: Please don’t worry, everyone — it’s definitely not a rehash of the iPhone 5c, at least not when it comes to the price.
 
aleni said:
Meanwhile Android manufacturers already using silicon battery with 80W charging speed at minimum and the battery health only drops to 97% after a year of usage. This is scam.
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So you think that Apple should switch to a battery technology that is prone to battery swelling and short lifespan? There are benefits to silicon-carbon but it is new tech and you should not forget the downsides.
 
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Dark_Omen said:
True, but if you're sitting in an ER waiting room for 12+ hours, you might feel differently about having longer battery life on your phone. Quite frankly, I think Apple could make both a super thin phone and a phone that's twice as thick as the current model for both types of customers to accommodate those that want a super long battery life.

While I understand the average person doesn't sit in an ER waiting room for 12 hours regularly, there are other scenarios where it would be helpful. Going camping for a couple of nights and forgot your charger? No problem, the battery is big enough to last a few days. 20 hour flight and you forgot your cord? No problem, the battery will last the whole flight.
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If you think that then how can you ever leave the house without a 20,000mah battery pack in case you get stuck in an emergency room or a campsite?

Maybe other people don’t have the need for such battery capacity and they can choose a phone like this while you choose the 17 Pro Max. That way everyone gets what they want.
 
I’m torn. I love my 16 Plus for its long battery life and lightness. Here they are taking away the battery life and leaving me the lightness. Why would I upgrade from a 16 Plus to this?
 
FriendlyMackle said:
The price will not remain at the SE price!
That's the whole point of lowered materials cost due to: crappier camera, smaller battery, aluminum instead of titanium or steel, and their likely not-great internal modem*.
*I don't believe the very limited reports as to their Apple Modem being so fabulously effective and power-saving (AND fast...just no).
As a marketing tactic (and manufacturing strategy), this is a brilliant response to our new topsy-turvy will-they/won't-they/impose-a-massive-tarriff! Lowered costs, higher retail price, and all dressed up as a premium top of the line device.
And who knows, as they simplify the device and remove further complicating and space-eating features in the quest for 'thinness' maybe the phone will become SO simple they'll actually be able to manufacture in the good 'ole USA.
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I understand your perspective. You are absolutely right that Apple, like any other company, aims to maximize its profits. Could they offer us better products for the same price? Of course! But as a business, they will always seek a balance between product quality and profitability. As long as the product appeals to customers (the masses) and they are willing to pay for it, it essentially doesn’t matter how much better the value could be. Apple is not a charity.
 
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Dark_Omen said:
I work in the industry. The mini series was a joke and not highly praised by owners. The batteries in those things are terrible and never lasted long in day-to-day usage, and also for longevity.

There are many reasons why that series doesn't exist anymore.
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lol which industry, sensationalist tech journalism? It was a great phone with slightly subpar battery life (the 13 really wasn’t even that subpar, just par). I loved both of mine, probably my favorite phones ever along with my 5S. My sister still uses her mini, still on its original battery, and still loves it dearly. Sure, turned out not to have a huge enough market for Apple to keep it around, but they’d still be selling in the millions every year if they kept making them.
 
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