Apple should alternate with mini and max.
one year mini, next year max.
there is market for both.
i like mini
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iPhone 17 Lineup Rumored to Feature All-New Slim Model Above Pro Max With 'Major Redesign'
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one year mini, next year max.
there is market for both.
i like mini
Look at that "revamped" iPhone 15 Pro Max design 🤣
Based on Apple's current pattern, we can expect a revamped iPhone design next year, coinciding with a shift to USB-C and the potential of a new Ultra model replacing the Pro Max.
Can't innovate anymore, my ass!
I keep hoping the iPhone Mini will be like the iPad Mini
New versions every 3-4 years
There is a market for "Mini" products ... they just don't need be annual (or even close) releases
Because they need to lock down the only meaningful change in years behind a higher paywall.
So probably a Pro-Ultra and a 7" screen? I bet money they'll even make a stylus for it.
That's the type of thinking that got Apple into trouble in the first place. They had such a huge product line and were really unfocused. When Jobs came back, he stripped down the product line which brought with it a ton more focus. That's when the company took off.
There's plenty of innovation at Apple, but they're missing the passion Jobs had. Feels too corporate and cookie cutter. Not willing to take huge risks with a potential huge payoff. I don't count Vision Pro as a huge risk with a huge payoff. It was just stupid to release something like that now. There's no big payoff until many, many years later.
@rulymammoth
Totally agree
The product lines lack a tight focus on "making just the best options for consumers"
It's not an accident
Tim wants a SKUfest with products all over the map, all slightly gimped here and there to drive upgrade sales
The lineups are designed around getting you to bump up a notch or bump up an overpriced component, etc
Maybe good business, but garbage experience for customers
Totally agree
The product lines lack a tight focus on "making just the best options for consumers"
It's not an accident
Tim wants a SKUfest with products all over the map, all slightly gimped here and there to drive upgrade sales
The lineups are designed around getting you to bump up a notch or bump up an overpriced component, etc
Maybe good business, but garbage experience for customers
How do you know? Apple may have been planning that at that point.
I get that, but 4 different apple pencils, an ipad air that has to use the old keyboard and despite being "not pro" has to use the pro pencil. An Air that's actually heavier than the pro etc.... far too fractured and illogical.
Oh well. The Plus was perfect for me so clearly it couldn’t last. We’ll just have to wait to see what the real phone turns out to be. But it’s entirely possible my next phone will be from outside the Apple ecosystem - along with my next computer and tablets. Apple’s act is getting old.
There was other word of the 17 Plus becoming a 17 Slim, but more premium than the Pro Max doesn't make sense to me
In fact the 16 Plus is the only one in the line to decline in battery size, so it seems like they're reconjiggering the line so that the Plus doesn't have OP battery life compared to the higher ASP Pro
If the slimmer 17 is actually an "Ultra" on top of the Pro, can it be so without sacrificing battery mah? And then the 16 Pro likely finally getting graphene and better cooling to prevent SoC throttling and display dimming which is still prevalent...Did we really need the next one to go slimmer?
What I thought the Ultra would be was quite the opposite, a durable without the case, very long lasting on battery iPhone, a la Watch Ultra
In fact the 16 Plus is the only one in the line to decline in battery size, so it seems like they're reconjiggering the line so that the Plus doesn't have OP battery life compared to the higher ASP Pro
If the slimmer 17 is actually an "Ultra" on top of the Pro, can it be so without sacrificing battery mah? And then the 16 Pro likely finally getting graphene and better cooling to prevent SoC throttling and display dimming which is still prevalent...Did we really need the next one to go slimmer?
What I thought the Ultra would be was quite the opposite, a durable without the case, very long lasting on battery iPhone, a la Watch Ultra
The iPad mini was never removed from the lineup, so unlikely.
Were there complaints that the iPhone was too thick? Is the goal to be able to fold it like origami into little birds and squirrels?
It seems to me that this is not a clamored-for feature.
Longer battery life? You bet. Wifi 7? Absolutely! OLED or MicroLED screen? Sure. Much, much better Siri? About time. But, putting the iPhone on a diet? Nah.
It's always looked lithe and sexy to me.
It seems to me that this is not a clamored-for feature.
Longer battery life? You bet. Wifi 7? Absolutely! OLED or MicroLED screen? Sure. Much, much better Siri? About time. But, putting the iPhone on a diet? Nah.
It's always looked lithe and sexy to me.
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The latest being the fracturing of even the latest M4 iPads.... oh you want the "Pro" pro, you must get 1TB plus.
Literally the only ones complaining are macrumors posters.
For the average customer (seeing as I used to sell these) it’s fine.
Case in point my dad. He got a new phone.
1. Price-
He didn’t want to spend anything close to 1000.
That automatically knocked all pro and pro max out.
2. He wanted something that wasn’t tiny
That knocks out the Se.
3. Good enough camera
The base or plus camera is fine.
4. Not too big
That knocks the plus model out.
Hence why he ended up with a 15 base model.
Ok, so it's clear at this point The Information is guessing the positioning of this product.
There is no chance a smaller display with aluminum chassis will be positioned above Pro Max. Chances are, this is a Slim that simply replaces Plus. The price tag could go up, no way it'll be above Pro Max.
Exactly -- It's just customer hostile money extraction schemes, up and down the lineups
Significantly thinner, more expensive, and made of, dare I say it... AH-LOO-MIN-YUM?
I sense the hand of a certain shadowy figure in the background:
I say this with the utmost respect, but: Ewww.
I hate the idea of a folding phone. The reason most phones are slabs is because it's pretty much the optimal form factor.