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iPhone 17 Lineup Specs Detail Display Upgrade and New High-End Model

ThailandToo said:
I will pay anything to eliminate the damned Dynamic Island. It’s a joke of an appearance which I can’t stand. Waiting patiently for any upgrade that eliminates ridiculous decisions taking away from the viewable area
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Totally agree. I downgraded from iPhone 14 Pro Max to iPhone 13 Pro partly over the dynamic island. The notch is okay as it's at one end of the screen. When watching videos it doesn't get in the way, especially if you put it on the right hand side (eyes more left to right and pay less attention the right). It's also that the Pro Max 14 version was a true brick (much clunkier and bulkier than previous 11 Pro Max which felt good in the hand). The 13 Pro was just fine (as was the 14 Pro). I find the 13 Pro screen less disturbing (PWM, refresh rate) than the 14 Pro Max (although theoretically they should be about the same).

Until there's a new iPhone without dynamic island, my 13 Pro will do just fine. Like you, I could live with a tiny cutout, but in that case, I'd far rather have the pinhole at the top edge of the screen, at least half of it in the bevel. A pinhole close to the middle of the display (like dynamic island) would be a no go.
 
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HJM.NL said:
Makes me curious how you experience Android vs iOS and what made you to switch to Pixel? Could you give a honest review?
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I'm on the Pixel side mostly for the camera. And the occasional ability to sideload stuff is nice. However if I would focus on most of my day to day use, I think either phone is fine. The Pixel often lacks polish. Some basic features are missing. A lot of things Google likes to copy but does so much later and very incomplete. Like Digital Wellbeing is really a copy of Screen Time but done much worse. The DND options on Android are outdated and partly being replaced by Bedtime mode but you can tell it's all a hastily rushed product. The overall Focus Modes & DND on iPhone seems to be superior and more powerful.

The Pixel has a few nifty things like call screening, Hold For Me, etc and other Assistant features that are nice. Google Assistant is better than Siri for sure but we're getting this new WTF Gemini crap that can't even set alarms and reminders. Google seems to love rolling new stuff out with little consideration for completeness of the product.

Overall I have a few nice things setup on Android such as Firefox + uBlock + Bypass Paywalls. A similar but less full featured setup is Safari + Adguard + Custom filters to get around some paywalls. Youtube ReVanced is a godsend for not having to deal with any ads, but it is a pain every time I watch Youtube on my iPad or cast anything where I'm reminded how bad the ads are and how they're unskippable.

iPhone users up until maybe iPhone 14 or 15 Pro have long been in the dark ages for camera performance. The Pixel has been taking beautiful low light photos for years. Camera performance is much closer these days, so perhaps I'd be ok with iPhone now, but for the last few years I was enjoying how awesome the Nexus and Pixel cameras were.
 
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Am I reading that right? The 17 Slim will be the new flagship but potentially have less cameras, lower end chip and less memory than the pro models?

How is that a flagship?
 
unless leaked info got mixed up, this doesn’t sound right? A more expensive iPhone that doesn’t have all the bells and whistles of the Pro Max? Doesn’t make sense to me
 
cbaca51 said:
unless leaked info got mixed up, this doesn’t sound right? A more expensive iPhone that doesn’t have all the bells and whistles of the Pro Max? Doesn’t make sense to me
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Foldable iPhone. Max tech made a video about it today. It makes sense if you think of it folding like Samsung Flip.
 
I'm sorry if this was mentioned before already, but I find it quite interesting, that all the size experiments seem to fail. Mini wasn't a hit. Plus seems to be no hit as well. The sad part ist, this might lead them to reduce the effort in trying out different form factors besides the "regular" ones. As an avid mini-fan I deeply hope the size trend is like the fashion industry. Everything seems to sort-of have a come-back.
 
fromgophonetoiphone said:
I'm on the Pixel side mostly for the camera. And the occasional ability to sideload stuff is nice. However if I would focus on most of my day to day use, I think either phone is fine. The Pixel often lacks polish. Some basic features are missing. A lot of things Google likes to copy but does so much later and very incomplete. Like Digital Wellbeing is really a copy of Screen Time but done much worse. The DND options on Android are outdated and partly being replaced by Bedtime mode but you can tell it's all a hastily rushed product. The overall Focus Modes & DND on iPhone seems to be superior and more powerful.

The Pixel has a few nifty things like call screening, Hold For Me, etc and other Assistant features that are nice. Google Assistant is better than Siri for sure but we're getting this new WTF Gemini crap that can't even set alarms and reminders. Google seems to love rolling new stuff out with little consideration for completeness of the product.

Overall I have a few nice things setup on Android such as Firefox + uBlock + Bypass Paywalls. A similar but less full featured setup is Safari + Adguard + Custom filters to get around some paywalls. Youtube ReVanced is a godsend for not having to deal with any ads, but it is a pain every time I watch Youtube on my iPad or cast anything where I'm reminded how bad the ads are and how they're unskippable.

iPhone users up until maybe iPhone 14 or 15 Pro have long been in the dark ages for camera performance. The Pixel has been taking beautiful low light photos for years. Camera performance is much closer these days, so perhaps I'd be ok with iPhone now, but for the last few years I was enjoying how awesome the Nexus and Pixel cameras were all
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fromgophonetoiphone said:
I'm on the Pixel side mostly for the camera. And the occasional ability to sideload stuff is nice. However if I would focus on most of my day to day use, I think either phone is fine. The Pixel often lacks polish. Some basic features are missing. A lot of things Google likes to copy but does so much later and very incomplete. Like Digital Wellbeing is really a copy of Screen Time but done much worse. The DND options on Android are outdated and partly being replaced by Bedtime mode but you can tell it's all a hastily rushed product. The overall Focus Modes & DND on iPhone seems to be superior and more powerful.

The Pixel has a few nifty things like call screening, Hold For Me, etc and other Assistant features that are nice. Google Assistant is better than Siri for sure but we're getting this new WTF Gemini crap that can't even set alarms and reminders. Google seems to love rolling new stuff out with little consideration for completeness of the product.

Overall I have a few nice things setup on Android such as Firefox + uBlock + Bypass Paywalls. A similar but less full featured setup is Safari + Adguard + Custom filters to get around some paywalls. Youtube ReVanced is a godsend for not having to deal with any ads, but it is a pain every time I watch Youtube on my iPad or cast anything where I'm reminded how bad the ads are and how they're unskippable.

iPhone users up until maybe iPhone 14 or 15 Pro have long been in the dark ages for camera performance. The Pixel has been taking beautiful low light photos for years. Camera performance is much closer these days, so perhaps I'd be ok with iPhone now, but for the last few years I was enjoying how awesome the Nexus and Pixel cameras were.
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Thanks for sharing your experience with the pixel and taking the time to write it down 👍🏻😊
 
I plan on buying the slim - and it's going to sell like a $5 TV in a crack neighborhood.

Some of you might not be old enough to remember that when cell phones really started taking off, the ultimate goal was thinner/lighter. Oddly enough, Apple was the leader in changing this around because of all the feature creep.

I think before the iPhone, one of the most coveted phones was the Razor. And its entire claim to fame was how thin it was.

I want a phone with a good sized, bright screen, that has the fastest internet access.

I don't need a pedometer, compass, 14 cameras, a flashlight, vibrating doodads, etc. All that crap does is add weight and kill the battery.

The reason the mini failed was because it was a discounted, lower end device. But people buying Apple products don't want cheap. That's why you buy an Android.

Pricing the thin at the top of the range will literally guarantee some people will buy it because it's the most expensive version (even if turns out to be cheaper to manufacture). Absolute genius move.
 
All I'm interested is about the all-48 mpx camera units (kind of substitute for dSLR) and maybe the removal of dynamic island as well. The question if these goodness will come exclusive to 17 Pro Max first & then to 18 Pro. From the Apple we know, they will do like this way. But if they make a surprise for some reason? Simply I don't wish to be trapped with the 16 Pro based on this assumption and seeing a 17 Pro one year later with three-48 mpx super cameras. Plus, I'm not much excited about AI features, it won't affect buying decision. But, having a meaningful chat with Siri and being able to delete some trash or electric wires by just touching/smearing would be nice.

I'll wait about one month and see & touch the first demo phones to get some idea. Owning an 11 Pro, should I buy the upcoming 16 Pro or wait 1 to 2 years more?
 
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