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I went from yearly upgrades in the days of the 3GS, 4/4s, 5/5s, 6/6s, to every 2 years starting at Xr to 12 Pro, and then 3 years to 15 pro max. I was looking at the 18 but if these price rises are true then I'll push the 4 years for the first time. this 15PM could be my last iPhone. too expensive for what it is. what I dont get is why the AI stuff has to be local, hence the extra ram needed - unless processing locally is for privacy reasons - there is a hardware cost for that, and as a consumer I dont much care for AI so we are in a situation where apple is pushing out a tech that apple customers might not necessarily want or need.
 
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As long as Apple can work with the carriers to keep the monthly payments from increasing too much then most people won't care about the price increases. The American consumer only cares about the upfront cost and the monthly cost afterwards. The total cost has a much lower impact on the decision of whether or not to buy.
 
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It’s happened before folks. I remember the iPad Air M1 going up by £100 overnight in the UK due to brexit. Any Apple tech you have been eyeing, pull the trigger now.
I’ve been holding off on getting an iPhone 18 Pro Max. I think a I’ll hold off still. The new iPhone Pro’s will be announced in a few months. If the new one doesn’t hit the spot then retailers will be discounting the existing stock in anyway.
 
As long as Apple can work with the carriers to keep the monthly payments from increasing too much then most people won't care about the price increases. The American consumer only cares about the upfront cost and the monthly cost afterwards. The total cost has a much lower impact on the decision of whether or not to buy.
I gave you angry face, but only because I agree with you of the perceived majority of US consumers only care and see the monthly cost. But it’s not true for all US consumers.

I am not majority, and am focusing on the total price. And i find it very distasteful for this $300 increase especially after being so patient and strongly considering upgrade to 18promax.
 
Geez, I was assuming we'd see price hike for the *18* Pro... Anyway, I have been dragging my feet on getting a new phone and I ordered a 17 Pro a couple days ago (scheduled to be delivered tomorrow). It really didn't occur to me the 17 series could see price hikes mid-cycle.
 
No denial, just the company has more money than god.

They won't go bankrupt between now and September...
Yes, they won't go bankrupt.

You're missing a very solid reason for making the change now (aside from the parts costs are already hitting now) - they want to distinguish / separate the rising parts costs from the new iPhone.

If they release the new models in September with, "here's the new iPhone 18! It's $1,500 now!", a whole lot of consumers of "average intelligence" are gonna say "why did they make the iPhone 18 so expensive? The iPhone 17 didn't cost that much! I don't like Apple any more!"

If they raise the prices of the iPhone 17 series now, people will say "wow, that sucks", but will see the out-of-the-ordinary price increase alongside the discussion of rising component costs and they'll unhappily accept it - it puts the blame on data centers and such - the prevailing story will be component costs. Then, when the iPhone 18 series comes out at those same prices, people will evaluate the iPhone 18 on the merits of the iPhone 18, rather than having the price sucking all the oxygen out of the room for the coverage around the 18.
 
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Agreed. Announcing the price increase earlier than the September iPhone launch might well be to help the optics of the Cook to Ternus CEO transition. Get the price rises announced during the end of the Cook reign to avoid any "this doesn't look good, the first thing Ternus does is raise prices" backlash.
The public either doesn't know who runs Apple or thinks it's "Tim Apple". Apple is doing this now so that when the 18 comes out, the main story in the media will be "here are the new features of the 18" (just like previous years) instead of "Apple's new iPhone 18 is MoRe ExPeNsIvE!!!".

It intentionally disentangles the has-to-happen price increase from the new model release, so that the price increase doesn't grab all the attention away from the new iPhones (and September is like Christmas for Apple - they work all year and very carefully prepare every bit of marketing to focus people's attention on buying the shiny new model). Instead, for a week or so this summer, the focus will be on "why is Apple raising prices mid-cycle? Oh, component costs and data centers", and then attention will go back to the reflecting pool or some other story, and then when the iPhone 18 series comes out, the price increase will be old news.
 
I think people are going to learn to stretch their devices out even longer now to save money
As the head of our company’s marketing department I would say almost no one will pay 30% more for a similar product unless they actually need a replacement for some reason (like replacing a lost or damaged phone) be it the 17pro or new 18pro.
 
Instead, for a week or so this summer, the focus will be on "why is Apple raising prices mid-cycle? Oh, component costs and data centers" ...
To your point, the latest from the WSJ:

 
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Took my mom to the Apple Store today ahead of the price increases to get her an iPhone Air (prefect phone for her) to replace her cracked screen base 15.

Bigger screen for her aging eyes, lighter weight, double the storage, and full Siri AI support. She doesn’t care about camera.

Will last her another three years when hopefully the AI bubble will have burst.
 
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As the head of our company’s marketing department I would say almost no one will pay 30% more for a similar product unless they actually need a replacement for some reason (like replacing a lost or damaged phone) be it the 17pro or new 18pro.
Good thing that 90% of iPhone sales are replacing a lost/damaged/too old to work phone.
 
I went from yearly upgrades in the days of the 3GS, 4/4s, 5/5s, 6/6s, to every 2 years starting at Xr to 12 Pro, and then 3 years to 15 pro max. I was looking at the 18 but if these price rises are true then I'll push the 4 years for the first time. this 15PM could be my last iPhone. too expensive for what it is. what I dont get is why the AI stuff has to be local, hence the extra ram needed - unless processing locally is for privacy reasons - there is a hardware cost for that, and as a consumer I dont much care for AI so we are in a situation where apple is pushing out a tech that apple customers might not necessarily want or need.
The AI on a phone is split between local and server based. The reasons for local are two fold -- one is privacy but another big reason is that some requests to a phone's AI are based mainly (often purely) on data on the phone that the phone has indexed and prepared to then be processed by a local AI agent.
 
Or, and stay with me, maybe we shouldn’t be doing any of this. All it’s doing is enriching corporations with price gauging and mass layoffs as I posted above. The average person’s lives aren’t changing for the better. None of it is improving our day to day lives, just enriching the technocrat billionaires.
I understand the trepidation. AI brings many problems though it also has already helped make many more productive. The parallels are not at all unlike when computers became mainstream where huge clerical pools were gradually laid off and many (often rightfully) became concerned about databases with so much personal data. Regulations, societal adjustment and education and other steps are needed to get more good than bad. But like the computer and internet the bad or good fact is simply that you can't go back. It's just not possible no matter how much people want it. So our best bet is to shape it in positive ways. And often the best way to fight bad AI usage will be by using AI to help do so.
 
Good thing that 90% of iPhone sales are replacing a lost/damaged/too old to work phone.
Wow. Who knew that many people loose or break their phone every year.

“Dec 2, 2025Apple's iPhone 17 lineup is selling well enough that Apple is on track to ship more than 247.4 million total iPhones in 2025, according to a new report” macrumors

That’s a lot of clumsy people out there.
 
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Whole RAM crisis looks highly suspicious and manufactured. Scam farms and stupid brands generate tons of image and video slop that looks like real rubbish, text generation practically eats nothing.
I seriously think this too… almost like self perpetuated to have a feedback loop of money making. As if someone discovered both the cure for cancer and how to shoot cancer at people.

That said, isn’t the craze supposed to be over? People hate AI and got tired of the AI looking images and videos, hallucinations are rampant, ethically and environmentally is deemed a no go, subsidized prices are going away, etc…
If “Microsoft and X and Y increases their prices”, sounds more like “we couldn’t make the consumer bite and we invested too much, let’s recoup by increasing what they were already buying”.

Either that, or AI is still increasing in daily heavy use and everybody is lying through their teeth, including the high morals individuals.
 
The public either doesn't know who runs Apple or thinks it's "Tim Apple". Apple is doing this now so that when the 18 comes out, the main story in the media will be "here are the new features of the 18" (just like previous years) instead of "Apple's new iPhone 18 is MoRe ExPeNsIvE!!!".

It intentionally disentangles the has-to-happen price increase from the new model release, so that the price increase doesn't grab all the attention away from the new iPhones (and September is like Christmas for Apple - they work all year and very carefully prepare every bit of marketing to focus people's attention on buying the shiny new model). Instead, for a week or so this summer, the focus will be on "why is Apple raising prices mid-cycle? Oh, component costs and data centers", and then attention will go back to the reflecting pool or some other story, and then when the iPhone 18 series comes out, the price increase will be old news.

As the poster you were replying to your theory in your second paragraph makes total sense and, while clearing the pitch for Ternus might be one very small consideration (malicious media might still want to make something of a new-CEO connection), I stand corrected and now 100% agree that the motivation you outline in your second paragraph makes way more sense as the primary motivation for pushing out price increases together with their justifications prior to the September new model releases.
 
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I seriously think this too… almost like self perpetuated to have a feedback loop of money making. As if someone discovered both the cure for cancer and how to shoot cancer at people.

That said, isn’t the craze supposed to be over? People hate AI and got tired of the AI looking images and videos, hallucinations are rampant, ethically and environmentally is deemed a no go, subsidized prices are going away, etc…
If “Microsoft and X and Y increases their prices”, sounds more like “we couldn’t make the consumer bite and we invested too much, let’s recoup by increasing what they were already buying”.

Either that, or AI is still increasing in daily heavy use and everybody is lying through their teeth, including the high morals individuals.
I think most people are using text-based AI in some sort of form (Chat GPT or Gemini mostly) but refrain from using generative stuff (sound, image, video etc). And generative AI is mostly used by large companies that are still trying to push it despite general disgust.

Companies who are building AI are putting all their stakes at corporate clients: they wanna get large companies on the AI bandwagon. This is the exact reason why they are burning money that stock holders are giving them rn. They think that if they grab these said clients, they will win. And if that happens - well, AI is gonna eat even more jobs. No one will be hiring real photographers and videographers anymore, they will probably be cutting workforce.

The only issue is that there should be more push against that in my opinion. AI generated content in my opinion doesn’t hold real value, it doesn’t look aesthetically. With that said, neither works of many photographers and videographers do, who would make ugly and unpleasant visual content with “Wes Anderson” type color grading or as gamers sometimes call it “the piss filter”.

Unfortunately aesthetics were forgotten somewhere in 2000s and that’s why it is so easy for AI to replace everything in our lives. Even Apple ads these days… they look like AI generated, fake and lifeless. No visual style. Same with their computational photography - tons of HDR, warm white balance, no soul.

That’s btw is a reason why every AI client offers free tier that does 90% of what premium version can do, they are offering it for free now as a demo version, so everyone can try, get hooked and then they will probably cut free users out of the equation, in case their idea with large companies works.

But in my opinion I think generative visual AI is not gonna take off, after stock holders start counting money spent and tiny profits, it will fold. After all these data centers are not only resource hogs but are also very expensive to maintain
 
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