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I was planning to keep my 512GB 16Promax. Until maybe the next year or after.
However now if the prices are going up, and I can get 985 trade in value at apple maybe I should just bite the bullet now on the 17Pro Max(either still 512GB or maybe 1TB)
 
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I went ahead and just purchased a base model iPhone 17 Pro just in case. Was thinking about it for a while. At least I have 14 days to decide what to do.
 
That's it, I'm getting the 17 Pro Max 512gb in Blue. I was going to hold onto my iPhone 16 Pro Max 512gb, but now the writings on the wall, I will pull the trigger just in case if anything happens
 
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All this for a glorified text predicting chatbot 🙄

Where is the proverbial AI productivity boost? I see semiconductor inflation everywhere as well as lots of AI slop and layoffs/hiring freeze. But I'm yet to see society-changing benefits.

This just happened to me this morning: I went to the bank branch to solve an issue with a payment using my credit card. The worker there didn’t know the answer, asked me to show her what type of error the bank app was giving me, I showed her, and then she told me that it would probably be a server or app error…

But then, she told me “wait, I’m gonna ask our internal chatbot”. Then the bank AI chatbot explained her, in detail, the reasons why such transaction wasn’t possible to be done. It wasn’t a server or app error, there was a clear explanation on why, according to the conditions to that type of credit card, the transaction couldn’t be done. Thus, the error I was being shown over and over…

Then she turned to me and, with a mixture of worry and perplexity (see what I dis there?) in her face, she told me that any day now she will stay at home and let the machine do the work.
 
The Apple cult will eat it up and ask for more. Apple is completely immune from any consequences from this. Good for them and good for you, the consumers. 👍
 
That's it, I'm getting the 17 Pro Max 512gb in Blue. I was going to hold onto my iPhone 16 Pro Max 512gb, but now the writings on the wall, I will pull the trigger just in case if anything happens
Makes no sense. Going from a 16PM to a 17PM is a waste. I done it and never should have. It’s why I’m skipping the 18 PM, even more so with the price increase
 
Makes no sense. Going from a 16PM to a 17PM is a waste. I done it and never should have. It’s why I’m skipping the 18 PM, even more so with the price increase
I haven't pulled the trigger on it just yet. The main reason why I want to get the 17 Pro from my 16PM, apart from the price, is the 12gb of RAM. Other than that, I think I can hold onto my 16 PM for another year or two
 
Super interesting timing - I was thinking about getting an iPhone 17 this week to avoid the hike of the 18, sounds like I may need to run over to Costco today!
 
Then she turned to me and, with a mixture of worry and perplexity (see what I dis there?) in her face, she told me that any day now she will stay at home and let the machine do the work.
This is what keeps me up at night. Do people really believe companies pushing this want to make our lives better? Of course not. They want more profits and that means massive layoffs, price gauging, monopolies, tax evasion, etc and AI is helping them with all of it. I’m already dealing with generative AI chatbots calling my local plumber who just sold out to a venture capital firm. There is no oversight and regulations under the current US administration as corporations and private equity are buying out businesses as boomers retire or people sell out, eliminating competition and creating more monopolies. The Paramount Skydance WBD+ merger never should have been approved and in normal times wouldn’t.

These people don’t care that it will all collapse when people don’t have the disposable income to keep the system running. They’re making as much as they can while selling off what remains and picking over the dead carcass. Why do you think Thiel and Musk and Zuckerberg and Bezos and so many others have bunkers? They know it may collapse on this trajectory and they’ll watch it from their estates and bunkers as AI takes care of their needs. It’s not here to help us.

“It's a big club, and you ain't in it.”
 
That's it, I'm getting the 17 Pro Max 512gb in Blue. I was going to hold onto my iPhone 16 Pro Max 512gb, but now the writings on the wall, I will pull the trigger just in case if anything happens
This is exactly what they are counting on, tons of FOMO to drive purchases before prices go up. Win/Win for Apple!
 
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This is what keeps me up at night. Do people really believe companies pushing this want to make our lives better? Of course not. They want more profits and that means massive layoffs, price gauging, monopolies, tax evasion, etc and AI is helping them with all of it. I’m already dealing with generative AI chatbots calling my local plumber who just sold out to a venture capital firm. There is no oversight and regulations under the current US administration as corporations and private equity are buying out businesses as boomers retire or people sell out, eliminating competition and creating more monopolies. The Paramount Skydance WBD+ merger never should have been approved and in normal times wouldn’t.

These people don’t care that it will all collapse when people don’t have the disposable income to keep the system running. They’re making as much as they can while selling off what remains and picking over the dead carcass. Why do you think Thiel and Musk and Zuckerberg and Bezos and so many others have bunkers? They know it may collapse on this trajectory and they’ll watch it from their estates and bunkers as AI takes care of their needs. It’s not here to help us.

“It's a big club, and you ain't in it.”
Sad, but true.

The road ahead for most companies is to lay off as much workforce as they can to keep increasing benefits, and the AI is going to be the tool they needed.

When I was a teenager, I always thought “why are companies so obsessed with breaking benefit records, when they could keep working if they just sustained the same benefits they have (plus inflation)?”. Another thought I used to have was “If their goal is to constantly increase the benefits… there has to be a point where benefits stabilize because you’ve saturated the market. There’s no such thing as eternal growth”.

What’s happening to this companies, such as my bank, is that first they saturated an already mature market (here in Spain we experienced a dramatic reduction in bank companies since 2008, and nowadays we only have three big banks), when they couldn’t grow more they increased the fees, to keep the benefits growing, then instead of settling on those already big benefits, they needed to keep increasing them, so they started closing physical branches or offices, firing or “retiring” workers, pushing their clients to operate through their app, and saving in office rents and fired workers wages. Now, the next step to retire even more of the workforce is installing AI chatbots, so that one or two workers can handle the work of five… more layoffs…
 
All these ridiculous price increases do not seem to support the advice: “wait to buy new tech until you actually need it”.

Maybe it still applies, but it’s just more painful when you do need to buy new tech 🙁

I have 14pro, with 79% battery. Do i NEED new pro max? Need is a strong word… typing mistakes seem to decrease with the larger keyboard, but im sure the heavier weight and size would be an annoyance at times. (AI things might be nice, as would the vapor cooling in the summer heat)

Maybe the Air 2 will amazing and worth… (quick calculation)…. $1299. 😕

Sigh. Just made an Apple appointment to see if they’ll do battery service on my 14pro that has a small crack in the corner of the back glass.
 
Sad, but true.

The road ahead for most companies is to lay off as much workforce as they can to keep increasing benefits, and the AI is going to be the tool they needed.

When I was a teenager, I always thought “why are companies so obsessed with breaking benefit records, when they could keep working if they just sustained the same benefits they have (plus inflation)?”. Another thought I used to have was “If their goal is to constantly increase the benefits… there has to be a point where benefits stabilize because you’ve saturated the market. There’s no such thing as eternal growth”.

What’s happening to this companies, such as my bank, is that first they saturated an already mature market (here in Spain we experienced a dramatic reduction in bank companies since 2008, and nowadays we only have three big banks), when they couldn’t grow more they increased the fees, to keep the benefits growing, then instead of settling on those already big benefits, they needed to keep increasing them, so they started closing physical branches or offices, firing or “retiring” workers, pushing their clients to operate through their app, and saving in office rents and fired workers wages. Now, the next step to retire even more of the workforce is installing AI chatbots, so that one or two workers can handle the work of five… more layoffs…
Spot on. The ‘08 financial collapse allowed massive corporate consolidation as larger banks bought out smaller ones and this model held true across sectors. The dot com boom worsened matters as the brick and mortar business model was replaced by cheaper online stores. Now AI is the next step in capitalism. Late stage capitalism is hitting everyone.

Regulation is necessary not to stop progress but to keep it steady for average household income and minimum wage to evolve with changes. Yet that hasn’t been happening since the 1980’s. We’ve had brief periods of progress but now that’s all been wiped out. We’re coasting on fumes and there are no guardrails and people are dazzled by AI without realizing it’s here to replace us.
 
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Spot on. The ‘08 financial collapse allowed massive corporate consolidation as larger banks bought out smaller ones and this model held true across sectors. The dot com boom worsened matters as the brick and mortar business model was replaced my cheaper online stores. Now AI is the next step capitalism. Late stage capitalism is hitting everyone.

Regulation is necessary not to stop progress but to keep it steady for average household income and minimum wage to evolve with changes. Yet that hasn’t been happening since the 1980’s. We’ve had brief periods of progress but now that’s all been wiped out. We’re coasting on fumes and there are no guardrails and people are dazzled by AI without realizing it’s here to replace us.
Sooo true its scary.
 
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All these ridiculous price increases do not seem to support the advice: “wait to buy new tech until you actually need it”.

Maybe it still applies, but it’s just more painful when you do need to buy new tech 🙁

I have 14pro, with 79% battery. Do i NEED new pro max? Need is a strong word… typing mistakes seem to decrease with the larger keyboard, but im sure the heavier weight and size would be an annoyance at times. (AI things might be nice, as would the vapor cooling in the summer heat)

Maybe the Air 2 will amazing and worth… (quick calculation)…. $1299. 😕

Sigh. Just made an Apple appointment to see if they’ll do battery service on my 14pro that has a small crack in the corner of the back glass.
Agree on the recommendations not taking into account this mess from AI. I’m now updating what I need as this was my update cycle year but I plan on keeping everything for 4-5 years. It’s financially prudent given how much everything is going to increase.
 
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My 17 Pro Max will probably be my last Pro model iPhone. Will move over to Air or regular model next year. Apple avoided cost increased for many years surprisingly. Yeah the base price increased on the Pros but so did the base storage. My only pause is the $300 increase? That's where I draw the line. I don't need 3 cameras and a 6.9" display that bad.
 
My 17 Pro Max will probably be my last Pro model iPhone. Will move over to Air or regular model next year. Apple avoided cost increased for many years surprisingly. Yeah the base price increased on the Pros but so did the base storage. My only pause is the $300 increase? That's where I draw the line. I don't need 3 cameras and a 6.9" display that bad.

I hope to keep mine for the next few years. Don't know what is going to happen a year or 2 or 3 from now.
 
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Agree on the recommendations not taking into account this mess from AI. I’m now updating what I need as this was my update cycle year but I plan on keeping everything for 4-5 years. It’s financially prudent given how much everything is going to increase.
Yeah, I now bought an M5 MacBook Air, right before the price increase, and with that, my M2 iPad Pro, and my A15 iPhone SE 3, I will hold as long as I am able to. 2030? Easily… 2033? Maybe… 2035? Hopefully…
 
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I hope to keep mine for the next few years. Don't know what is going to happen a year or 2 or 3 from now.
I don’t want to be pessimistic but the bad ending of this timeline is that we end up without “computers” as we know them now, replaced by dumb “terminals” that operate in the cloud. Powered by AI, of course, at the price of a modest monthly subscription... We’re already seeing it with video game streaming services.
 
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My 17 Pro Max will probably be my last Pro model iPhone. Will move over to Air or regular model next year. Apple avoided cost increased for many years surprisingly. Yeah the base price increased on the Pros but so did the base storage. My only pause is the $300 increase? That's where I draw the line. I don't need 3 cameras and a 6.9" display that bad.
I would definitely get the Air now if I were you. On BestBuy, i am seeing it at $839. Not sure if it's the same where you're at
 
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I don’t want to be pessimistic but the bad ending of this timeline is that we end up without “computers” as we know them now, replaced by dumb “terminals” that operate in the cloud. Powered by AI, of course, at the price of a modest monthly subscription... We’re already seeing it with video game streaming services.
I was trying not to be pessimisstic too, but you might be right. Tech (As in Big Tech) has only gotten worse over the years, not entirely better.
 
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Having said that, optimization is king. Even 64 GB won’t be enough if developer is lazy and “vibe coding” instead of doing actual job
The developer could do memory use benchmarking and vibe code for efficiency.

Ah, probably not, I was just taking a trip to Fantasy Land.
 
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I don’t want to be pessimistic but the bad ending of this timeline is that we end up without “computers” as we know them now, replaced by dumb “terminals” that operate in the cloud. Powered by AI, of course, at the price of a modest monthly subscription... We’re already seeing it with video game streaming services.
They don't want us to own anything - whether it's homes or media, there's more money in subscription services and renting. Once digital media then streaming replaced physical media, companies pushed subscriptions as the new, convenient business model. Now we have a handful of international media conglomerates who own franchise IP's and only offer streaming content which they can pull at anytime. Many programs and shows aren't even available for streaming or purchase resulting in people pirating media. Buying content means you're tied to that company's platform to watch what you own. It's ridiculous and we collectively ushered it in just as we did all the smart home devices marketed to make our lives easier while they collected data. We effectively paid corporations to take from us while telling us it's amazing and convenient.

Thankfully, I have 800 TB's of films and shows ripped lossless for backup and my home theatre and streaming versions for remote playback on Plex or Infuse Pro, etc. It's a heavy investment but one I spent years building as I wanted to keep what I owned and not buy into subscriptions.

We need to get back to owning physical media again and take back control of our lives by voting with our dollars otherwise things will get worse.
 
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