the dishonesty of this company increases exponentially every year. 8x optical zoom. but it isn't.
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iPhone 17 Pro and 17 Pro Max Hands-On
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I agree which is why I never understand the hysteria over colors. 95% of the people just use a case.
Are you sure you don’t wanna switch your opinion to, “they seem ugly, but I’ll know conclusively once I have them in hand, in person” ? That would make more logical sense. But what do I know
I always get one of Apple‘s cases like the silicone or possibly even the new tech woven that’s coming out. One of the reasons I get apple cases is because they’re easier to slip the phone out and put it back in. And because it’s easy to take out, I do take it out to clean it with a microfiber cloth and to admire it and sometimes it’s just completely out of the case when I’m at home. So yeah, there’s a little bit of hysteria with the colors.
My question is this, if the 8X has “optical quality” what does it matter? My opinion is that it is splitting hairs. An analogy would be a woman getting breast augmentation. It’s not real, but the visuals are just as appealing.
Nice video. Love the new Pro Max and the beautiful bright orange color. Happy that Apple has finally offered a bright finish for a 'Pro' device. Wish Apple gives one color that is bright for the iPad Pro too. Planning on getting the 17 Pro Max in orange.
Would have liked if the optical zoom remained at 5x and then offered a 10x crop zoom. Don't think that is going to change anytime now. Maybe in the future Apple might add another zoom lens.
Would have liked if the optical zoom remained at 5x and then offered a 10x crop zoom. Don't think that is going to change anytime now. Maybe in the future Apple might add another zoom lens.
You're right, from what I've been looking into. Apparently JerryRigEverything cut through the frame of a 15 or 16 Pro, and found that the titanium part is just a band about 1mm thick bonded around the perimeter of the aluminum frame. That was enough to add significant strength and scratch resistance to that part of the frame, but we'll see how Apple might have still achieved enough strength (and maybe even some scratch resistance) for the 17 Pros while doing away with the titanium band.
Not including the titanium band allows the perimeter of the iPhone to dissipate internal heat much better, since aluminum has about an order of magnitude better heat dissipation than titanium. That might result in fewer instances of speed throttling and display dimming when the iPhone is being used for heavier tasks, especially when being used in hot environments, especially under direct sunlight. On the other hand, since titanium transfers heat poorly, it might actually act as an insulator when the 15 and 16 Pros are in direct sunlight or even just in hot ambient temperatures in the shade. I'm assuming (for whatever that's worth) that Apple has tested whether the internals get hotter with or without a titanium band, and they've made their choice accordingly. We'll know once the 17 Pros get into people's hands and they start doing temperature tests.
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Agreed. I am on the 15 Pro and was down for the 17 Pro but those fugly colors combined with nothing other than a better camera and spec improvements make me think it might be wise to hold off.
If your into pro level photography or video then get it, but outside of that, why upgrade? Are there any up and coming cool Apple Intelligence features like a working Siri that will require the new processor?
What can this phone do that my 15 Pro can’t not involving the cameras? Battery life and 256 GB of space? That’s important to me but is it worth dropping $1,200?
I don’t think so, especially if the color choices are regulated to fugly colors from a 1970’s era porn flick. I’m sure Debbie, when she was done doing Dallas, would have approved. I, on the other hand, don’t consider vomit orange and undesirable dark blue as “colorful” choices.
If you want colorful, look at the color choices on the 17 or 17 Air. Those are colorful choices. These are a two fugly colors and boring old silver with no black because those of us with older models made of quality metal instead of aluminum would take one look at the black option and laugh.
At least you can still get a titanium body with the 17 Air, but if you want to take spatial videos or get good battery life without taking a huge step back in the camera department, the 17 Air isn’t an option.
At this point, minus the cameras, the regular old iPhone 17 with a black option and 256 GB of storage is looking like the best of three compromised options this year to me. The Max is a no go. It’s too big for me to handle comfortably with one hand.
Color matters when you have to look at a device all the time. Bad 70’s era porn colors won’t do.
I totally agree, why the two toned on the silver? silver is already boring but like this even worst . The blue looks almost black and the orange shouts 'look I have the latest iphone'
Im not sure if this has made its way around the English side of the internet but
Now I’m starting to get around the orange.
Now I’m starting to get around the orange.
I’m upgrading to the 17 pro max from the 16 pro max. It then again, I upgrade every year. But looking forward to the 17 pro max not overheating like my 16 pro max and also longer battery life, plus the better camera lens front and back.
People get mad on the forum for invoking his name, but I 110% agree with you, it lacks any elegance or style, its like a Microsoft engineer designed it or something.
I think that Steve Jobs was a toxic person and the cult of Steve Jobs has really become boring.
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These phones are absolutely hideous. They do not look premium, they look cheap and totally out of whack.
Calling the 17 Pro “objectively ugly” is wild when it’s basically a copy-paste of the last three iPhones. If this one’s hideous, then you’ve secretly hated your phone for years?
the striking white on the silver is just too much in my opinion. it ruins the whole look for me.
Just for grins, I used Apple's comparison page for my iPhone 16 Pro Max and the iPhone 17 Pro Max. The number of differences do not suddenly make my existing iPhone obsolete so $2,000 stays in my pocket.
I really don't want to let go of my 13 mini; it's the perfect size iPhone for me. But it's getting on in years and it's becoming obvious that Apple is never going to release another small phone. The foldable might be an alternative, but I refuse to spend $2000 on a phone (especially one that probably will have compromises similar to the Air). So when the new iPhones are on display, I'll pay a visit to the Apple Store and look them over in person.
I think you really need to go look at this device’s specs. It’s the biggest jump since the iPhone 13 Pros. It will be a major update for a lot of people.
I love the new design. You are “objectively” wrong.
Damn, I do not have any overheating issues with my 16 Pro Max, but I would upgrade if I did.
I was once a yearly upgrader too with T-Mobile’s Jump! plan, but I’ll hold onto the 16 PM for another year and see what Apple’s 2nm A20 brings next year, hopefully with 16GB of RAM and even better battery life with a 144hz refresh screen and a much smaller Dynamic Island.
The iPhone Air would be a huge upgrade for you in every meaningful way and would offer zero compromise, so not sure what you mean by that.
However, I would wait yet another year if you have waited this long already. The iPhone 13 is still capable of taking you another year and the A20 might be worth the wait if you hold onto your phones that long.