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I’ll get excited when i can connect the “Pro” to an external monitor and get stage manager/ window support. I’ve been using the Ipad Air on the latest beta and i’m sold.

You can connect the Pro to a monitor right now and it will work. It looks kinda goofy and text is blown up, but it works.
 
That 12GB of RAM has to be for something. Apple's Ai is still basic and video editing still works flawless with no lag on 16PM.
When I say multitasking I mean allowing iOS to continue to run non Apple apps in the background when not in focus.

iOS can be very aggressive with memory management sometimes that it may suspend Discord or Teams while I'm on an active call but was in another app. Seems to happen most if its not using PIP or active in Dynamic Island.

You should be able to download or sync music/movies/tv shows from a non Apple app in the background and not have to leave the screen on with the app in focus. For those that care about their battery consumption or resources, make it a setting.
 
iPhones have been able to multitask for years.

You can run 4 audio production Apps in real-time (for example a MIDI keyboard App, Audiobus, effects App and a DAW) on a 10 year old iPhone 6S.

You STILL can’t properly do that on the latest Android phones.

Yes this is a niche use-case, but your claim about multitasking is false.
Have you tried doing this on an Android foldable like the Z Fold 6 or 7?
 
iPhones have been able to multitask for years.

You can run 4 audio production Apps in real-time (for example a MIDI keyboard App, Audiobus, effects App and a DAW) on a 10 year old iPhone 6S.

You STILL can’t properly do that on the latest Android phones.

Yes this is a niche use-case, but your claim about multitasking is false.
When I’ve looked into Android folks talking about “multitasking” it’s usually something like “I can have the calculator on the screen to add up a list of numbers in a picture” or other things that are far more simplistic than your example (and, incidentally, things that the iPhone just does differently or better without two separate apps on screen at once).
 
People trashing the iPhone air will finally shut up 🤣. The iPhone air is the phone to buy, sorry pro people.
iPhone 17 is the best feature and value.
iPhone 17 Air is for those seeking a larger screen and something novel with iOS.
iPhone 17 Pro unless you have a need for telephone and some other minor features it’s really not worth it and best to wait for a folding iPhone or will it be called iPhone Ultra.
 
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Do people actually need faster telephones? My 2020 SE2 is always as fast as I wish.
I know people that are still lugging around backups / data from 10+ years ago which bogs the phone down. Definitely helps load certain things faster like Messages threads if you have a lot of history with someone.
 
Have you tried doing this on an Android foldable like the Z Fold 6 or 7?

Tried on my S24 Ultra. Doesn’t work without latency issues (major problem if you’re trying to record an instrument and listen along to other tracks).

You can do the most basic stuff (like having two Apps work at once and do some recording).

Google just doesn’t take this market seriously. Maybe they haven’t figured out a way to monetize user data for people making music. 😉
 
When I’ve looked into Android folks talking about “multitasking” it’s usually something like “I can have the calculator on the screen to add up a list of numbers in a picture” or other things that are far more simplistic than your example (and, incidentally, things that the iPhone just does differently or better without two separate apps on screen at once).

This is a result of Samsung’s marketing campaign years ago where they tried to change the definition of multitasking to multi-windowing.

Multitasking is having two or more processes (Apps) running concurrently. It has nothing to do with split screen or having Apps side-by-side.
 
When I’ve looked into Android folks talking about “multitasking” it’s usually something like “I can have the calculator on the screen to add up a list of numbers in a picture” or other things that are far more simplistic than your example (and, incidentally, things that the iPhone just does differently or better without two separate apps on screen at once).
I can have four apps open at once on my Z Fold 7. One time I had a YouTube video going of a shuttle/space launch, I was texting my buddies about it in Google Messages, I was also watching my stocks and I had a wiki page open as well. Zero lag. That is multitasking, to me anyway.
 
This is a result of Samsung’s marketing campaign years ago where they tried to change the definition of multitasking to multi-windowing.

Multitasking is having two or more processes (Apps) running concurrently. It has nothing to do with split screen or having Apps side-by-side.
Starting an app starts a process though, so I don't understand what you're saying here, with all due respect.
 
M5 could be the turning point for M3 owners.
I've still an M1 Max and find it fine. I do keep thinking about upgrading but at this point waiting for the M6 models with OLED displays and redesign. Honestly though I suspect even by then the M1 Max will still be more than fast enough but more just will fancy something new and OLED is a good reason to upgrade.
 
Starting an app starts a process though, so I don't understand what you're saying here, with all due respect.

Makes sense if you read what the person I replied to said. They talked about having their calculator App open on the same screen as something else (multi-windowing).

Running multiple processes concurrently is the real definition of multitasking.
 
But you can't have three Safari tabs in the background without them reloading when switching.
That's a RAM issue, not a multitasking issue. Hoping the move to 12GB of RAM will help here but also depends which phone you have currently and how much RAM they have. Also depends what app you flick to, if it's a game say then likely it might well need a lot of RAM so pushes the tabs out of memory. If it's say messages, email or whatever then the tabs on the current ones with 8GB RAM likely will still be in RAM.

But either way it's a RAM issue, 12GB is a big jump from 8GB. I do expect at some point they'll have a LLM that's always loaded and eating into that RAM though.
 
What this shows is Apple is still far ahead of everyone else for processors.

The Snapdragon 8 Elite gen 2 will be out soon, and it will probably beat the A19 Pro in multicore. But it will do that using 2 prime cores and 6 performance cores against Apple using 2 performance (prime) cores and 4 efficiency cores that are clocked much lower than the 8 Elite. And it will still be way behind in single core, the most important number for a processor.
 
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