Stainless steel was the one thing about my 13 pro that I hated the most. I hated the shiny finish and I hated the weight. I do care about phone weight...the lighter, the better.
..and my next phone won't be a pro unless the weight goes down.
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iPhone 17 Pro Launching in Three Months With These 12 New Features
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Stainless steel was the one thing about my 13 pro that I hated the most. I hated the shiny finish and I hated the weight. I do care about phone weight...the lighter, the better.
..and my next phone won't be a pro unless the weight goes down.
1. Titanium is very non-Green, as are zirconium and hafnium. The production process is brutal. All three of those elements really want to remain oxides.
2. Related to point 1, titanium is expensive.
3. Titanium is a poor heat conductor.
Those three reasons alone are enough to go back to aluminum. We could also go on about how the high tensile strength of titanium is wasted in an application where structural buckling is more relevant, but this is the wrong place for that. The right place when I did it was Mechanics of Materials, ES 340.
80% of those features already available way cheaper with the Galaxy S25.
My XR is also fine and I will keep it until 2026, most probably.
Absolutely nobody cares about “non-green” nonsense, and Apple was more than keen to advertise titanium as a great, premium material. So let’s quit this hypocrisy once and for all.
Clearly beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. If the [IMO spectacular] camera performance improves yet again I will certainly consider it beautiful.i refuse to believe it's going to look this ugly
?? We have had years of titanium alloy at the high end now. Anyone can see that it is a great frame material, not "just a marketing gimmick to sound fancy."
We will have to see how well the shift to aluminum alloy for the frame works, but history strongly suggests that Apple will do it well too.
Not a single one of those "new features" is something that might, even remotely, appeal to most people. For the vast majority of users, you will not even notice anything.
The iPhone 17 Pro and iPhone 17 Pro Max are three months away, and there are plenty of rumors about the devices.
Below, we recap key changes rumored for the iPhone 17 Pro models as of June 2025:
Check out our iPhone 17 Pro roundup for even more rumors.
- Aluminum frame: iPhone 17 Pro models are rumored to have an aluminum frame, whereas the iPhone 15 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro models have a titanium frame, and the iPhone X through iPhone 14 Pro have a stainless steel frame. The back of the devices will supposedly have a new "part-aluminum, part-glass" design.
- Rectangular camera bump: iPhone 17 Pro models are expected to have a large rectangular camera bump with rounded corners. Apple apparently plans to stick with a triangular arrangement for the rear camera lenses.
- Sky Blue finish: Like the latest MacBook Air, the iPhone 17 Pro models are rumored to be available in a Sky Blue color.
- Larger battery: The iPhone 17 Pro Max is rumored to have a slightly thicker design that allows for a larger battery.
- A19 Pro chip: iPhone 17 Pro models are expected to use Apple's next-generation A19 Pro chip, which will reportedly be manufactured with TSMC's newer third-generation 3nm process. Like usual, expect modest year-over-year performance gains and power efficiency improvements compared to the current iPhones.
- Apple-designed Wi-Fi 7 chip: All four iPhone 17 models are rumored to get a Wi-Fi 7 chip designed by Apple rather than Broadcom.
- 24-megapixel front camera: All four iPhone 17 models are said to feature an upgraded 24-megapixel front-facing camera, whereas all iPhone 16 models are equipped with a 12-megapixel front-facing camera.
- 48-megapixel rear Telephoto camera: An upgraded 48-megapixel Telephoto camera is rumored for the iPhone 17 Pro models, up from the 12-megapixel Telephoto camera on iPhone 16 Pro models.
- Dual video recording: According to Jon Prosser, of the YouTube channel Front Page Tech, the iPhone 17 Pro and iPhone 17 Pro Max will allow users to record video with the front and rear cameras simultaneously in the Camera app.
- 8K video recording: Apple allegedly tested 8K video recording on the iPhone 16 Pro models, but such functionality is still not available. With the iPhone 17 Pro models expected to have entirely 48-megapixel rear cameras, perhaps 8K video recording will debut on those devices.
- 12GB of RAM: iPhone 17 Pro models, and even the iPhone 17 Air, are rumored to have 12GB of RAM. This upgrade should help to improve the performance of Apple Intelligence and multitasking. All four iPhone 16 models have 8GB of RAM.
Improved cooling: All four iPhone 17 models are rumored to feature internal design changes that result in better heat dissipation. A vapor chamber cooling system has been rumored for the Pro models.
Article Link: iPhone 17 Pro Launching in Three Months With These 12 New Features
Apple, I need several days of battery life. The megapixels in my camera or the generation of the wifi chipset is irrelevant. Really.
Folks need to understand materials better. Pure metals are not used for frames, only alloys [Ti, Al, etc.] are used. And alloys can be made to have a wide range of properties. So saying something like "It’s a cheap bendable metal" is just silly, because very hard, rigid aluminum alloys are available.
You "need several days of battery life," but you can easily obtain several days of battery life by buying a battery pack. Those of us [apparently in the majority] that do want improved camera competence cannot buy it via add-on.
It’s every single year we hope for better looking iPhone and Apple never fails *sarcasm*i refuse to believe it's going to look this ugly
Aluminium has always been a superior material for a phone. Steel and titanium were not features, were just marketing made with the intention of upselling iPhone pro making people believe they were more premium materials. But the truth is that aluminium conducts heat better than either of them and is more lightweight, so the phone is lighter and stays cooler.
I think I’ll go for the iPhone Air, which has 17 new features instead of only 12: https://www.macrumors.com/2025/06/06/iphone-17-air-list-of-17-rumored-features/
You may be remembering this: https://www.macrumors.com/2025/06/12/17-reasons-to-wait-for-the-iphone-17/
I think they just rotate between Aluminium, Titanium and stainless steel pretending it's a huge breakthrough innovation.
No mention in any of these feature roundups regarding whether the main rear camera is going to be yet again the IMX803 camera module that has been used since the 14 series. Last year the IMX903 was rumored to replace the current main rear camera module but that never happened due to it not being available in time. No excuse now.
Anyone who fails to grasp that Ai is being implemented all over the place in apps and OS simply fails to grasp.
We disagree with your downgrade opinions - -at least until we actually have a 17 Pro [or 26 Pro if they call it that] in hand.
It is in no sense "“non-green” nonsense" just because green may be nonsense to you. The fact is that Apple [and many customers] do care, so from a product design discussion standpoint green matters a lot.
Titanium is indeed "a great, premium material," so of course Apple should hype its use. If they can now make aluminum alloys suffice then they should hype that too. Aluminum alloys are hella cheaper, more readily available, easier to work with, conduct heat better - - and are more green.
You fell for “magical titanium” so just do it again for “magical and lighter alloy”