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iPhone 17 Pro vs. iPhone 18 Pro: 35+ Upgrades Compared

DEMinSoCAL said:
Unfortunately, Apple is blind when it comes to trade-in values of iPhones with more storage. Apple gives $885 for an iPhone 17 Pro Max regardless of whether it has 256GB or 2TB (which cost almost $1000 more).

That's beyond unfair. And I would bet that if Apple resells my iPhone 17 Pro Max 2TB in their refurb store, they would not be pricing it like the 256GB model.
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Apple won't resell your iPhone, that's not what they put on the refurb store. They'll either recycle or sell to a used reseller.
 
DEMinSoCAL said:
Unfortunately, Apple is blind when it comes to trade-in values of iPhones with more storage. Apple gives $885 for an iPhone 17 Pro Max regardless of whether it has 256GB or 2TB (which cost almost $1000 more).

That's beyond unfair. And I would bet that if Apple resells my iPhone 17 Pro Max 2TB in their refurb store, they would not be pricing it like the 256GB model.
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Apple doesn't process the trade-ins that is handled by a third party.
 
Astuces iOS said:
Big laugh to the camera upgrade which is nothing… Y’all tell me what a variable aperture on a phone will do for you ! Can we even call it “camera upgrade” it’s more like a “lens and OS” upgrade lol

And god damn let’s stop saying the word “mp” it’s useless in here…
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Its going to be a pretty reasonable upgrade on the camera as it moves a lot of what was done in software to the hardware. But thats about the only change I see as most everything else is just marketing terms. Having the ability to step up the appeature should improve quality, as lens are very rarely at their best at the lowest apeature setting.
 
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spazzcat said:
Apple doesn't process the trade-ins that is handled by a third party.
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Does it matter? The third party is going to resell a 2TB iPhone for the same price as a 256GB iPhone? That's my point. I don't care who gets the phone, but Apple is offering the trade-in value and if they offer more for a Pro Max over a Pro, then they should give more for a 2TB over a 256GB.
 
Hammerd said:
Much better SoC, much better cooling, camera improvements, C2 modem... Those are still serious improvements. The iPhone is a mature product so we cannot expect a revolution each and every year
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Sure, but don't expect an upgrade every year then. It's not worth it. VERY few people are going to notice a difference in their daily lives between 17 Pro and 18 Pro. It's just technical jargon.
 
Jeremy3292 said:
Sure, but don't expect an upgrade every year then. It's not worth it. VERY few people are going to notice a difference in their daily lives between 17 Pro and 18 Pro. It's just technical jargon.
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No one is expecting an upgrade every year. Phones have always been sold based on 2 - 3 years of use.
 
It's the same as every update.

iPhone Pro updates are now basically fixed and predictable:

  1. a bit faster
  2. battery lasts a bit longer
  3. camera's a bit better
  4. new colors
They used to do different positioning of the camera lenses between versions. They don't even bother with that anymore.
 
svish said:
Besides the chip upgrade, it is overall a small update when compared to the 17 Pro/Pro Max. No reason to upgrade from 17 Pro series. Very happy with my Orange 17 Pro Max and not planning on buying the new 18 Pro Max.
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I can see not upgrading from a 17 Pro/Pro Max. What about from an iPhone 12 Pro with battery life of 80%? ;-)
 
spazzcat said:
You can access the raw photos on your phone, you should try it ...
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What does that have to do with anything? Your raw photos will be noisy without all the processing because it's a tiny cell phone sensor that can't collect enough light. That's the whole problem.
 
DEMinSoCAL said:
Unfortunately, Apple is blind when it comes to trade-in values of iPhones with more storage. Apple gives $885 for an iPhone 17 Pro Max regardless of whether it has 256GB or 2TB (which cost almost $1000 more).
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Oh that's an interesting observation. I never thought of that before! For all my iPhones now and in the past, I've always chosen the one with the least about of storage space. With my next iPhone, 256GB is not going to be enough (I only have about 40GB empty space on my current phone) and will need to jump to the next level.
 
DEMinSoCAL said:
The real question is whether any of these speed improvements make any difference in using the phone?

It will be interesting if an iPhone 18's speed is any better than a 17 or 16 when using things like Siri AI or other demanding tasks. It's nice to have a faster chip, but when the previous version is already "too fast", does it make it worth upgrading?
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I wouldn't be upgrading if it's only for the speed.

I use an iPhone 12 Pro and that thing is just doing fine with regards to speed. I also don't use Siri and it doesn't have Apple Intelligence.
 
Dirk Pieters said:
It's the same as every update.

iPhone Pro updates are now basically fixed and predictable:

  1. a bit faster
  2. battery lasts a bit longer
  3. camera's a bit better
  4. new colors
They used to do different positioning of the camera lenses between versions. They don't even bother with that anymore.
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Well, maybe you're desiring for more differences in a shorter amount of time?

Don't forget that FaceID came out with the iPhone X (2017), and dynamic island came out with the 14 Pro (2022). We are in 2026. The camera arrays definitely have changed a number of times between then. That's not that many years between those other years. While the Pro/Pro Max have similar styling for the past couple of years, the radical change this year is the Duo.

So all in all, there have been many changes.
 
MacRumors said:
Last year's iPhone 17 Pro brought one of the biggest design changes to the lineup in years, switching from a titanium frame and glass back to an aluminum unibody with Ceramic Shield 2
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To be clear, only the front of the iPhone 17 Pro is Ceramic Shield 2. The back is just the standard Ceramic Shield. Same with the iPhone 18 Pro.
 
Is the Camera Control button still the same? I thought there were rumors of Apple using a simplified Camera Control button this year?
 
DEMinSoCAL said:
Can you reference any studies or tests that compare the C2 and the Qualcomm chips ability to provide usable cellular service in low signal strength areas and where the C2 excels? In other words, where it's proven the C2 gives more bars side-by-side an iPhone with Qualcomm chip? Also, being on Verizon, I've clocked almost 1.5Gbps down on Verizon 5G UW...I wonder what the C2
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DEMinSoCAL said:
Can you reference any studies or tests that compare the C2 and the Qualcomm chips ability to provide usable cellular service in low signal strength areas and where the C2 excels? In other words, where it's proven the C2 gives more bars side-by-side an iPhone with Qualcomm chip? Also, being on Verizon, I've clocked almost 1.5Gbps down on Verizon 5G UW...I wonder what the C2 can manage?
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I guess you have a point there, never looked at it that way, but figured maybe it would do better on cellular service a year without proof makes sense
 
BeatsByTim said:
What does that have to do with anything? Your raw photos will be noisy without all the processing because it's a tiny cell phone sensor that can't collect enough light. That's the whole problem.
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That my point, you should check them out they are not going to be as bad as you think. While, Apple's sensor is small it's a very good sensor.
 
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