120hz should be a standard by now. Even cheaper phones have it. And the excuse of Apple fans doesn’t count (that people don’t care). See 17 sales. But offering it would destroy Tims ladder price strategy and holding back and drip feeding features over years.
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iPhone 17e to Use Same OLED Panel But Feature Slimmer Bezels
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No, the last one flopped but shareholders probably demand more iPhones in the line up. If it was up to bean counters Apple would had also an iPhone 5G45S and an iPhone SR31.
^^ No it did not flop.
Quite a few people. Most consumers don’t obsess over specs like many on sites like MR and the like.
This was proven to be wrong. Best selling phone is the Pro. The Air got rejected because of less features and the 16e didn’t sell well unlike the 17 which gained 120hz. Costumers are not dumb. More and more people are getting more tech savvy since they grew up with tech.
Oh no that will bload up the line up even more but that is a typical Tim Cook move that it will happen.
I sell these things. I see it firsthand.
Let me tell you who buy Pro and Pro Max. Those few who need the camera and most others are those who just think they need those things but really don't. Rather like a lot of people who buy oversized trucks, but don’t actually need them. High end phones are rather like status symbols to show off to others even if people would never admit it to themselves.
The base 17 is presently the hard one to get and it’s a way better value than the Pro given the upgrade Apple gave it.
Also something not selling in numbers hoped for does not equal flop. Given how successful the 17 line has been overall means they still sold quite a few 16e and 17 Air.
Customers are not dumb? Many aren’t, but quite a few can be. And some of the smart ones don’t buy into things that aren’t important.
I might upgrade next year and a 17e is definitely a phone I will seriously consider given what I need from a phone. The base 17 and Air will also be considerations. The Pro and Pro Max are a lot of money for something I don’t need and recognizing I’m not a professional photographer or videographer and I don’t need much from a camera. And the money saved can be better utilized elsewhere.
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My wife has a 16 e for her work phone. It’s not bad for just that. Couldn’t use it as my daily driver.
i’m not sure the “e” line needs a yearly release. who are these selling to outside of business customers?
The SE didn’t flop and had the home-button design and LCD until this year.
Dynamic Island is more costly and comes with a slightly larger screen to compensate for it going lower than the notch, so would mean lower margins at that price point. Also, not everyone actually likes it.
It’s not an SE model, that’s why they renamed it and called it “16”.
I wonder how many SE buyers actually appreciated either the smaller size, the home button, Touch ID, or the LCD screen. Apple dropped all that differentiation for the 16e. There’s still the differentiation of almost no camera bump and the notch, but that’s probably a smaller market, while they also hiked the price up.
You seriously could not manage daily with a 16e? I mean I’m not overly impressed at the price point but I know I could manage with one if that’s what I could afford.
If my mini broke and I couldn’t replace it, I would likely get the e. It’s the most compact and light-weight iPhone with great battery life, and looks sleek.
Yeah this makes some sense. Bc otherwise you’re standing up a brand new line for the frame… maybe that’s a lot cheaper, but when you can buy an OtterBox (or whatever) that works with the 14, 15, and 16e (and the last SE was the same as the iPhone 6, right?), I’m suspicious resizing a frame is a cheap endeavor.
Maybe so? Or maybe this size screen targets another phone’s frame size? Anybody know?
I like the new “e” and slim “Air” models, the price point is just the only problem with them. Apple 🍎 will just blame it on inflation. 📉📈
It shouldn’t get Dynamic Island. This is to differentiate between the cheap model and premium models.
It's a corporate phone. Plenty of companies, including mine, only offer the 16e.
SE was the previously offered model. I still have my 2022 model until next year.
Cameras are what differentiates the cheap from premium models. No one gives a crap about the dynamic island.
Additionally, why do you care? How does a phone, that you don't own, having a feature affect you?
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Why? Why not just have decent iphones without all the tiering going on. Apple are losing it. They gonna make the heaviest iphone ever this year. They gonna make the most expensive iphone this year (maybe next) the fold. This will be a £2K+ phone. rofl. They have lost the goal of making decent, affordable competent iphones for the people. As for the software, bugs and complexity it's too much. How many iphone models are available right now (excluding memory options) too many, I actually don't even know. They will bloat up the iphone a bit more maybe another year then hopefully they will revert and produce an actual decent, moderate phone device.
Honestly at this point I may better get an iPhone 16 or 17, especially the latter. With the much improved GPU performance for a more graphically demanding iOS 26, faster 8GB of RAM…
But if the A19 is such a great SoC, why not just wait for the 17e then?
Well , for one, because the second camera is quite useful for capturing more space at less distance, and the new selfie front camera also has quite good applications.
And the forgotten dedicated camera button (capture button) is absent from the 16e and will be absent from the 17e, and I can see it useful for opening the camera quickly, instead of swiping right from the Lock Screen.
Also, I have the feeling that the A19 SoC from the 17e will be a binned one, something that has its own advantages and disadvantages…
But, overall, what would make me get the iPhone 17 over a future, cheaper, lighter 17e, is the screen. The new iPhone 17 has a high refresh rate pro-motion screen, plus always on, and most importantly, the feature to reduce PWM flickering (I know, it doesn’t eliminate it, but I’m quite sure it makes the phone more usable). All of that isn’t on the iPhone 14, or 16e OLED display.
No doubt this is such a best seller, never in the recent history of Apple, since they offer several models and sizes, the base iPhone has been such a great deal.
Sadly, the iPhone 17 is expensive, especially here in Europe, priced at 950€
For some, all these extras not worth the price increase (in my case, around €300) for the 17.
Says no one. Dismissed! That will never happen, smaller phones are dead in the iPhone lineup. The people have spoke and want their tv screens.
I actually know a few people that bought the 16e as their personal phone.