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As much as I like more battery I find the battery life on my 17 Pro to be outstanding. There hasn't been a single day where I have had it die on me and I consider myself a power user. We're already seeing Chinese phones like the Honor 500 Pro having 8000mah batteries. A few hundred increase isn't really groundbreaking. The phone is thick enough already; refine the software and you'll likely get better gains than cramming a slightly larger battery in it.
 
Even more BRICK.
Phones are getting too heavy. Especially the iphone. Anything above the regular 17 is just too heavy.

Noticed this especially in the evenings holding the phone with 1 hand casually.
 
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Fine, they make an Air now if you want lighter.

I don't care if it's thicker, it beats carrying a power bank too.

I already make mine thicker with a rubber case because they keep making the back out of glass even though I never see it because I have to put a case on it to protect it.

Hopefully thick enough so there is no longer a stupid camera bulge on the back that makes it not lie flat.
 
So the battery capacity is going from 5,088 mAh in the 17 Pro Max to 5,100 - 5,200 mAh in the 18 Pro Max. i.e. somewhere between 0.2% - 2% increase, likely on the lower end. Wow wee. What a silly article.
 
This could also have something to do with the upcoming EU regulations on replaceable batteries in electronic devices.

There is a loophole in the EU regulations if a device has a long enough usable lifetime ie maintain 80% capacity after 1,000 cycles
 
Instead of a bigger battery, how about de-bloating the OS, and allowing us to choose what is running in the background? This OS used to run on an iPhone 4, and there is no reason why it couldn’t again.
 
Sorry battery life still sucks ass. Every phone itteration claims to have better battery life and every time I’m at 20% by 3:30pm.
 
I’m still waiting for all week battery life. I want to be able to go away for the weekend and leave the phone charger behind and not have to worry about running out of battery no matter how heavily I use my phone.

I normally wait years between replacing my phone, but would upgrade straightaway if they solved this problem.
 
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Currently using iP 17PM. If I listed my top ten iPhone wants, the list would be mostly about fixing broken software. Improving battery life would not even be on the list.
 
Will be hopeful, but they say this every year.
It’s not like it wasn’t true about the iPhone 17 Pro. Last year the iPhone Pro battery life increased significantly. That should give hope to you and to people who need more battery.
 
Bigger, thicker device with better battery life……wow! How about a thinner, lighter device with new super advanced “Pro Grade” Silicon Carbide battery tech? You can even act like you came up with it Apple. I am so so bored of a 5 year wait for tech other manufacturers have had for ages.
So, how are those phones with 5-year-old silicon carbine batteries doing?
 
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After holding in my hand and using an iPhone Air for almost a week before returning it for a Pro Max ... I don't think I can go for a heavier phone. Even on my heaviest days I use less than 30% of my iPhone's battery.

I could hold that iPhone Air forever and it felt .... like air.

The 17 Pro Max is just insanely heavy - while it's a battery beast, great screen, great cameras - I just ... carrying around a brick is getting old.


I would love to know why Apple is staying away from this new battery technology. I am very happy with Apple's quality so there must be something about it that doesn't meet their standards. But when it is ready I'm looking forward to it.
Silicon Carbide batteries are lithium ion batteries with silicon carbide anodes instead of graphite anodes. The benefit is 10-20% greater capacity. The downside is worse durability and lifetime. There are efforts to reduce the swelling that causes problems with this kind of anode, but it doesn’t seem like they are really ready for mainstream phones yet. Neither Apple, Samsung, or Google are ready to stake their reputation for durable phones in SC batteries, yet.

 
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Expecting to see a small increase in battery capacity. This combined with a newer power efficient chip will give slightly longer battery life.
 
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Bigger batteries mean fewer charging cycles, which is good. Faster charging means more heat, faster depletion of a limited resource, which is bad for the environment.
Silicon carbon anode batteries heat up significantly slower while charging than lithium-ion, which allows them to fast-charge to about 80% (compared to an iPhone at about 40%) before they get hot enough to trigger charge throttling. During the last charging phase, from 80% to 100%, they’re at maximum temperature, but for less time than a lithium-ion battery spends at that temperature. Because Si-C batteries charge so much faster, they spend only about 10–12 minutes in that final hot saturation phase, while a current iPhone's standard all-carbon anode battery might spend 30–40 minutes in its warm/throttled state trying to finish its last 20% of charge.

So if this all leads to less heat degradation, we might see iPhone batteries maintaining a better maximum charge over their lifespans, but for most current iPhones with their carbon-anode batteries, heat degradation is already pretty minor over the usual lifespan of an iPhone.

So once Apple starts installing silicon carbon batteries, we should see faster recharge and topping-up speeds, while generating less heat for most of a full charging cycle, and throttle-level heat for a much shorter time. And as with Android manufacturers that are already installing silicon carbon batteries, Apple is likely to increase the maximum wattage at which iPhones can be charged (mostly an increase in wired charging wattage compared to the anticipated Magsafe wattage increase), which will be another factor that allows them to charge faster than current iPhones. Hard to say whether that increase in charging wattage will create significantly more heat though, but from what I've been reading, because a silicon carbon battery is more efficient, a 60 watt charge on an Si-C battery can actually produce less internal heat than a 30 watt charge on a standard carbon-anode battery.
 
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I’m still waiting for all week battery life. I want to be able to go away for the weekend and leave the phone charger behind and not have to worry about running out of battery no matter how heavily I use my phone.

I normally wait years between replacing my phone, but would upgrade straightaway if they solved this problem.
We might get all-weekend battery life (maybe three day weekend) with the release of the fall 2027 iPhones.
 
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