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iPhone 18 Series: Same Bezels But Smaller Dynamic Island, Says Leaker

Steve Adams said:
So, previously ALOT, I mean ALOT of people upgraded their devices for the black friday/Christmas rush. So this year, their contracts are done and they want new devices. 90 percent of these people are clueless as to what the differences between devices are. So when the time comes, they are chomping at the bit for a new phone and all that's available are the pros. Most will get them, some will think it's too expensive. the real losers are the sales people who will miss out on alot of potential sales of the upgrade cycle of the regular 18.
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Apart from the 18 Pro line and the foldable, Apple will still continue to sell iPhone 17, iPhone 17e and Air, at least until the spring 2027.
 
latts said:
Still don't understand the early in the new year philosophy for the iPhone 18 from a financial POV as Apple will miss the lucrative Christmas period for sales
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If Apple is keeping Pros to fall release that has to be where they’re seeing the holiday demand.
 
Andreas from Zurich said:
The iPhone 18 is the first model that will be available in separate editions for left- and right-handers. Depicted is the (classical) right-handers edition. The one for lefties will have the dynamic island slightly to the left and all buttons reversed.
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That's a common misunderstanding. It's an accessibility feature for people shortsighted in one eye—there's a slider to get it just right so it appears in the middle for those poor afflicted souls. Moves the icons too.
 
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JerryIII said:
How much smaller can the bezels get?
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They can get so there's no bezels. Just the metal frame and then the start of the display. Honestly each time they have reduced the bezels it is actually noticeable and makes a difference. Precious display real estate there on smartphones. I would like if they would introduce a 5.7" model in both pro and consumer lines though. All these phones are too big for me.
 
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JerryIII said:
How much smaller can the bezels get?
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As thin as the frame that are the sides of the phone.

Unless you wrap the screen around the sides, but that’s probably a terrible idea for a lot of reasons, just one being that Samsung tried it and it turned out, after the initial novelty period, to be something people didn’t want, so they didn’t buy it.
 
Pezimak said:
Does anyone know where you can get that lock screen image from?
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Happy_John said:
But, for the foreseeable future, I think sites are just sucking up / putting up with the loss of revenue, and are upping the level of advertising and level of “clickbaitiness” to compensate, rather than actively trying to change their monetisation model.

Because just adding paywalls won’t retain users or add new users.
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Paywalls isn't the only or even the most natural reaction to that, I think. In the context of going from an ad based revenue model.

You want to be in AIs just like how you want to be in search engines. Paywalls is often the worst of two worlds then, because you'd limit your exposure through that while also not letting people see the value of the content even if they go look for it manually.

It's a situation where you then would be trying to get the consumer to buy things unseen in the proverbial bag. On a saturated market where even some of the individually greatest sources are an insignificant blip in an ocean of plentitudes.

Instead just make the website more convenient to use, make the people get that serotonin from happily finding what they're looking for. Engage them with suggesting related posts that actually are relevant to the user. Make them happily create follow-up questions on older threads, instead of trying to squeeze page/ad views out of the user having to scroll through 7 screens of irrelevant search results for each one tangentially related one to what they're looking for.
 
Happy_John said:
As thin as the frame that are the sides of the phone.

Unless you wrap the screen around the sides, but that’s probably a terrible idea for a lot of reasons, just one being that Samsung tried it and it turned out, after the initial novelty period, to be something people didn’t want, so they didn’t buy it.
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Looks amazing, until you realize that a big part of your target market wants to use cases on their phones.
 
CharlesShaw said:
Those of us at the iPhone 13 mini encampment are wondering if the Dynamic Island will still exist when we're eventually forced to tear down our tents.
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You still probably have at least 4 or 5 more years until then, correct? When you factor in security updates after you no longer get the major releases.
 
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I think we’ll indeed see a smaller Dynamic Island for the iPhone 20. However, there are rumors about a 20th Anniversary iPhone that describe a different device, without any element blocking the screen, so… we will see.

But I’m quite sure that, at the very least, if there’s a Dynamic Island, it will be smaller.
 
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Apart from the 18 Pro line and the foldable, Apple will still continue to sell iPhone 17, iPhone 17e and Air, at least until the spring 2027.
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And people in the market for the 17, would be 16 owners on their 2 year contracts then, not worth upgrading for one year of advancements. It's all for maximum profit. Very obvious. Make those 16 owners buy the 18 pro instead of the 18.
 
“No change in bezel size” is the least surprising news possible. They can’t make them any smaller. I already accidentally hit the edge of the screen all the time with my palm just from holding the phone one-handed. Really the bezels could stand to be slightly larger.
 
Happy_John said:
And your point about users shifting to A.I. is very true, a lot of business who do generate revenue from advertising and amassing tracker data are very, very nervous about how A.I. is delivering information to users without any “click-through” from the users - it kills those income streams.
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That is, and will continue, to be a major battle, between the AI platforms and websites, over how site's material can be used by AI to train and repurpose. I suspect a lot of money will be spent lobbying elected officials to get laws that each side wants; and we'll see a patchwork of laws between various countries and economic regions.
 
Do you ever get the opinion that Apple purposefully does things in slow increments? They just make each product slightly better than the last so that they don't run out of upgrades. They slowly tread towards a goal testing the market, gradually turning the screw to see what it will do to the wood it's being screwed into.

I've had money socked aside for years waiting to purchase something from Apple -something that's a game changer. The last game changer was Apple Silicon (sort of). I say that loosely because while Apple Silicon is a big upgrade in speed/ efficiency, with it came a lot of downgrades from intel (dual booting, running intel apps, etc). Apple silicon should allow you to run any native app on any device. We're slowly heading in that direction - iPhone mirroring on Mac, iPad apps on Mac, but what about pro, uncrippled Mac apps on iPad/ iPhone??

There were rumours of the "MacBook Ultra" with touch. An iPad-like device that runs MacOS apps? Yes please! NOPE, the MacBook Ultra is reported to have very basic touch capabilities, at least for now. Maybe in a few years. Hurry up and wait everyone!

The iPhone fold could be that two-in-one device that can be an iPad/ iPhone and creaseless! Imagine having an iPad that fits in your pocket. Hopefully like an iPad you can connect it to a monitor and use it like a computer. That would be a game-changer, and be worth the additional cost. NOPE! The iPhone fold still runs iOS and iOS apps more crippled than the iPad. The screen is still not 100% creaseless either. Apple needs to merge the OSes so that any device can run any app. It's more possible now than ever.

Well, I have to admit that the MacBook Neo is a bit of a game changer - but not for us power users, but for people who wouldn't buy a Mac because of the premium price. It doesn't change the game by giving us more capability or flexibility, actually it's a step backwards with streamlined features, but not for those who don't already have a Mac. So really, the Neo doesn't count.

C'MON APPLE LET'S BE BOLD, LET'S GET OUT THERE AND DROP A BOMB! WE'RE READY FOR IT!
 
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Crazy innovation. Love how updates have gotten so incremental, that I can skip 3-4 generations before updating just to get a handful of updates and a few new emojis.
 
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A decade of notches and cut outs is crazy, get rid of them give us thin bezels and no cut outs, all they do is faster chip slightly better camera and batt life, it’s so boring now
 
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