It may not be easly mimicked but quarts and core animation were easly passed by with Beryl and Compiz.
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It may not be easly mimicked but quarts and core animation were easly passed by with Beryl and Compiz.
I was reading in the newspaper yesterday that although Jobs said we in Australia (as part of the Asian market) can expect the iPhone in 2008, that it is more likely we won't have it until early 2009. This is mostly because the technology built into the iPhone (EDGE) is available only through the Telstra network and they have rigourous approval standards. Telstra stated taking that into consideration by 2009 it would be probable that Apple would have reviewed the iPhone to offer video calling much like what is available today via the 3G network.
Bern, where did you read this?...if telstra doesn't support the iPhone...heads will go missing
at very worst, we'll have to wait for rudd's super fast internet plan
But back to the main topic...the second iPhone cannot be released until australia (i mean asia) gets the first one
at very worst, we'll have to wait for rudd's super fast internet plan
But back to the main topic...the second iPhone cannot be released until australia (i mean asia) gets the first one
Amen - This is a phone for the uber mac geek in all of us. To NOT include GPS is a deal breaker for many tech heads and a serious omission to me.
Can't wait.....
I cannot handle having to wait for the iphone.
I am getting excited about it coming out in the states.
I cannot handle having to wait for the iphone.
I am getting excited about it coming out in the states.
I think that at most it will be a software refresh maybe a iPhone 16GB version but that is doubtful. Guess we will have to wait.
It's not about Telstra not supporting the iPhone, as I mentioned they are the only network in Australia who currently has EDGE technology which the iPhone uses. It's about Telstra approving the iPhone for use in Australia. In it's present state Telstra will not and that is why they (Telstra) are predicting we may not see the iPhone go on sale in Australia until 2008/2009. The newspaper (Herald) assumes then that if we are to wait that long it is more likely Australians will not see the current version of the iPhone.
What Does "...to overcome a lack of expanded media support for Flash memory." Mean?
What does that mean? I can't understand that sentence at all.
Finally
Finally, someone who agrees with me. That is the ONE feature I am most concerned about. Exchange would be nice, iChat (esp. video iChat over WiFi) too, but GPS is critical.
Isn't it required by law to be in all phones now anyway???
Here's one of MANY links: http://www.maps-gps-info.com/gpcp.html
Seems like they've crippled the features again!
Finally, someone who agrees with me. That is the ONE feature I am most concerned about. Exchange would be nice, iChat (esp. video iChat over WiFi) too, but GPS is critical.
Isn't it required by law to be in all phones now anyway???
Here's one of MANY links: http://www.maps-gps-info.com/gpcp.html
Seems like they've crippled the features again!
What does that mean? I can't understand that sentence at all.
larger flash drives
Argh, i can't wait. I really want it but what's holding me back is 3g. But i'll see people using the iphone and have such envy.
Hmm
If they really wanted to mimic the piezoelectric properties of Quartz, they'd have used Tourmaline instead of Beryl.
If they really wanted to mimic the piezoelectric properties of Quartz, they'd have used Tourmaline instead of Beryl.
Well, aren't we anticipating the European version around January of next year? Mayhaps THAT is the iPhone 2...
It does seem that the trends in the cellphone industry move in waves of 6 months. It is a lot crazier than the mp3 market which Apple seemed to have dominated from the start. So Apple will definitely need to use a quicker hardware upgrade plan than they use with the iPod.
Waiting 2 years to update would be a nail in the coffin. Waiting a full year might work in the future for them as long as they put out big software upgrades throughout the year that keeps adding bullet-point features to the phone.
But I do think that waiting a full year for this first upgrade will be a problem, because they truly need to get 3G networking and GPS hardware into the phone as soon as possible. Once they have those to upgrades in, then they can relax a little and wait a full year to do another hardware upgrade. It probably will be like the first iPod. The next upgrade won't be a true 2nd generation, but it will be a hardware upgrade that looks the same on the outside.
You can bet that when Apple's competitors put out their own "iPhones", that they will have 3G and GPS support.
Waiting 2 years to update would be a nail in the coffin. Waiting a full year might work in the future for them as long as they put out big software upgrades throughout the year that keeps adding bullet-point features to the phone.
But I do think that waiting a full year for this first upgrade will be a problem, because they truly need to get 3G networking and GPS hardware into the phone as soon as possible. Once they have those to upgrades in, then they can relax a little and wait a full year to do another hardware upgrade. It probably will be like the first iPod. The next upgrade won't be a true 2nd generation, but it will be a hardware upgrade that looks the same on the outside.
You can bet that when Apple's competitors put out their own "iPhones", that they will have 3G and GPS support.
MMS and video recording should be easy done by software uppdate.
auto-focus, 5 megapixel would be nice but definitely not a deal breaker.
And everything less the 7,2Mbit mobile data transfer is just ****
GPS would be nice but probably not a deal breaker.
Storage <-20GB is a deal breaker for me. If I going to buy a "big" "ipod" I demand to beable to sync my entire mp3 library
auto-focus, 5 megapixel would be nice but definitely not a deal breaker.
And everything less the 7,2Mbit mobile data transfer is just ****
GPS would be nice but probably not a deal breaker.
Storage <-20GB is a deal breaker for me. If I going to buy a "big" "ipod" I demand to beable to sync my entire mp3 library
How much nicer would Google maps and directions be if you didn't have to tell it where you were already?
It would make sense that the first HSDPA ones following "shortly" will come in 8GB and 16GB sizes.
At launch in January, Apple specifically stated there would be an HSDPA version of the iphone for Europe, Asia and Australia and all that they gave for a timeline was "shortly".
The EDGE iPhone won't be coming to Australia. The HSDPA one is what the rest of the world will get.
I have been think about waiting to buy mine.
This EDGE data speed issue is what is holding me off from buying one, come Friday. However, I would buy one ASAP if it did come with GPS, more memory [or even an SD slot, and either 3G [or the up and coming 4G].
Another thing, if they release updates to the iPhone like they did for the iPods, then i could see version 2.0 by 2008.
This EDGE data speed issue is what is holding me off from buying one, come Friday. However, I would buy one ASAP if it did come with GPS, more memory [or even an SD slot, and either 3G [or the up and coming 4G].
Another thing, if they release updates to the iPhone like they did for the iPods, then i could see version 2.0 by 2008.
I think lots of folks have hit the nail on the noggin. Without 3G, its hard to justfiy the expense. It'd be like having a Mac Pro on dial-up (28.8 at that!). I want one of these things, but I am definitely not going to be waiting in any lines just to get the bleeding EDGE (pardon the pun).
I hope so...
in europe/asia do u use at all edge technology or is all the phones 3g? When is it scheduled to come out? Early 2008 or late 2008? I would be really pissed if eurasia gets a 3g capable version and we in the US are stuck with edge
bern said:
my point still stands...if telstra don't 'approve' the iPhone, we'll have to wait until the superfast internet scheme...hopefully that'll include EDGE support
if so, you'll here about my revenge on the news
http://www.apcmag.com/6525/telstra_softens_its_iphone_criticism
there's hope after all...but they're still ignorant of iPhone