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iPhone 2 at MWSF 2008?
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I definitely agree with Chundles. A non-3G-enabled phone would be laughed at in other parts of the world.
-Clive
You know Apple won't do that.
There are MP3 players that can run circles around the iPod based on functions alone. The iPod wins because of ease-of-use and integration with iTunes.
Other iPhone-type products already exist... the LG Prada phone for one. The UI is buggy, though, and black & white. That is the way things will go with "
Yeah, Asia+Europe is a much bigger market than the US and iPhone would really need 3G and a higher res camera (at least 3.2MP if not 5MP - the current 2MP would be more at home on an el-cheapo phone, not something that's going to be over $1000 here) and a few other features to allow it to compete with what consumers consider "standard phone features" for something at it's price point.
It probably won't officially be "iPhone 2.0" but it will definitely be a different version at least internally, to the one sold in the US.
My guess is that we'll see an OS upgrade to the iPhone along with the release of Leopard, or at least some new apps. If not then, I think a software upgrade will be highly anticipated at MWSF '08.
I think the hardware is solid for at least a year, and as stated before, 2 years from Friday would be a perfect time to release a new phone to go with another 2 year contract. Remember, AT&T is in on this, too.
I think the hardware is solid for at least a year, and as stated before, 2 years from Friday would be a perfect time to release a new phone to go with another 2 year contract. Remember, AT&T is in on this, too.
3G and a better camera are musts for Eurasia, maybe GPS. When those come out there, they might surface in the US with little fanfare a la the speed bumps given to Macs fairly quietly. Wouldn't need to be a full redesign or overhaul of the UI and whatnot, but just a little mention of it on the web page.
If you read the article, it does actually say this.
The Asian and European versions debuting at MWSF 08 will be entirely consistent with the road map unveiled last year.
I think it is safe to say that we won't get any kind of announcment of a iPhone 2, until the release is immidiatly to follow. The reason for all of the iPhone hype around its initial launch is to get a good head of steam going while Apple attemps to penitrate such a tough market. The only kind of announcment I would expect would be Apple's plans to offer iPhone internationally, but not a major hardware update. Just like with their current hardware, they are strict on secrecy so as not to stop sales of their current products. No one wants to buy a product when an announced update to said product has already been announced publically.*
I think a software update at MWSF wouldn't be unthinkable, and I would presume a wise move, to show that they are not going to let iPhone get stagnate, but I wouldn't expect a hard update for at least a year in the US.
*unless your trying to spare your business the headache of having to update to vista, heaven forbid your whole company is running M$
I think a software update at MWSF wouldn't be unthinkable, and I would presume a wise move, to show that they are not going to let iPhone get stagnate, but I wouldn't expect a hard update for at least a year in the US.
*unless your trying to spare your business the headache of having to update to vista, heaven forbid your whole company is running M$
Actually, the reason is that it takes a while to get FCC approval. If Apple waited too long to announce the iPhone, it would show up in FCC filings and the secret would be out.
I'm just waiting for the iPhone mini. Think about it. The iPod mini is what made the iPod take off... so I think we can expect the same for the iPhone. Imagine the iPhone mini at $250. Everything the same except a smaller screen and no video playback.
I disagree with you january is almost half a year away, and I'm sure Apple want an array of iphones out.
I also think that it'll be January before iPhone reaches europe, so a 3G phone at the same time as launch will be perfect.
Okay, then why don't they just say so? Sorry, it's just that vague predictions of expanded capabilities, not new, kinda irk me.
Apple doesn't generally pre-announce updates to existing products in order to avoid sales losses for the current generation of products. A 6 month lead time would devastate current iPhone sales and probably kill the iPhone.
Wait wait wait, no.
A) The iPod Mini was not what made the iPod take off. Many people already WANTED an iPod but couldn't afford it. The popularity of the device was already well-established.
B.1) The reason you're waiting for the "iPhone Mini" is because it will be the popular device upon which the iPhone platform will take off? That doesn't make sense. Buy a friggin' iPhone for its capabilities, not for the status of owning an iPod.
B.2) You also assume that the iPhone won't be popular until they release a Mini. The first iPhone may not be widely used, but it will be popular. The difference between the iPhone and the iPod is that the iPod was a sneak attack, in a way. Nobody thought Apple would release one. PMP-makers of the day were like, "Apple? PMP? WTF?" and the iPod uptake was very slow at first... in fact it didn't get really popular until around the 3rd-gen iPod. This time, all eyes are already on Apple. Everyone knows the iPhone is coming, everyone knows what this thing can do... and a LOT of people want one. Only the price may hold some people back.
B.3) You and others may assume the iPhone is an entirely different platform for Apple. I see it, however, as a progression of the iPod line. Apple has been wanting to make an all-powerful iPod for quite some time. Well, this is it. The iPhone may have its own tab on apple.com, but there's no doubt in my mind that this is the future of the iPod. Therefore, I wouldn't think of it as a different device. I'd call it just a new type of iPod. Meanwhile, I am confident Apple will release a 6G iPod. It will have an iPhone-style interface, and perhaps even web-browsing through wi-fi... but won't be an iPhone. Eventually the iPod will continue to grow and gain abilities, and my guess is that it will reabsorb the iPhone, just as it did with the iPod + Photo. Besides, "iPod" is a more appropriate name than "iPhone," especially for a device that is so much more than a phone.
Sorry, but I think that would be a terrible idea. Only cut video? c'mon...
The iPhone's size is approximately the size of the current iPod... which isn't that big to begin with. But if you're going to have a device that can still browse the net, you'll need the bigger screen.
An appropriate iPhone "mini" or "nano" or what-have-you would have calling, tunes, texts & visual voicemail, all with a single-touch screen environment. Now THAT would be a popular device with the young-ins. There wouldn't be any room for a keyboard, so Apple would have to use a pop-up keypad for texting, probably.
Anyway...
-Clive
It's the last nail in the coffin of this rumor being bogus. Apple's isn't talking to their hardware manufacturers about what new software applications they're writing. Sure, they'd need to know about including a GPS chip - but understanding the Exchange protocol? Nope - they're on a need-to-know basis.
in my local paper they said october for an update..... I think that is way too soon. I could see them changing it because of the holiday season
Why would an early adopter have to break a contract to upgrade? The contracts merely lock you in to the company.
Switching from iPhone Rev A to iPhone Rev B should be as easy as buying the iPhone Rev B from Apple and popping your SIM card in it.
I think we'll see an iPhone Rev B w/3G by WWDC 08. It'll just have 3G and maybe come in 8 and 16 GB instead of 4 and 8. The early adopters won't feel that bad over it.
Verizon is posting 4G signage on their retail store exterior signs. Example Covina, CA.
iPhone is ATN V 1.0 and the versions for Europe and Asia will be significant hardware variants with minimal software variation and significant bandwidth improvements.
iPhone 2.0 will have wimax and will be the first real step to get away from cellular entirely.
ATNN will have iPhone features but will have two displays not one with the lower one acting like both a MacBook and iPhone keyboard (virtually) and the upper screen will be the primary visual element portion.
I find it cool Apple used "armed" guards to bring iPhone into country and has smartly worked with FedEx to time deliveries to stores "just in time" for a nationwide 6pm rollout.
Rocketman
iPhone is ATN V 1.0 and the versions for Europe and Asia will be significant hardware variants with minimal software variation and significant bandwidth improvements.
iPhone 2.0 will have wimax and will be the first real step to get away from cellular entirely.
ATNN will have iPhone features but will have two displays not one with the lower one acting like both a MacBook and iPhone keyboard (virtually) and the upper screen will be the primary visual element portion.
I find it cool Apple used "armed" guards to bring iPhone into country and has smartly worked with FedEx to time deliveries to stores "just in time" for a nationwide 6pm rollout.
Rocketman
Not Surprised by This
I am not surprised by this rumor. You would have to look back on how quickly Apple made these modifications or updates to the iPhone from the first time announced till now. I am sure that we will see these modifications in January 2008.
I am not surprised by this rumor. You would have to look back on how quickly Apple made these modifications or updates to the iPhone from the first time announced till now. I am sure that we will see these modifications in January 2008.
It's just the European/Asian version. People on here keep telling us EDGE is fine so the US market is obviously happy with that.
Over here we have large 3G coverage (there's an advantage to living so packed together sometimes), no-one would accept anything but 3G.
Over here we have large 3G coverage (there's an advantage to living so packed together sometimes), no-one would accept anything but 3G.