Actually, since it's tapered, it'll propably fit better in our pants than the old one.
But that's not a good excuse to get one. You can get smaller, better and more feature-rich phones all over the place.
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Actually, since it's tapered, it'll propably fit better in our pants than the old one.
But that's not a good excuse to get one. You can get smaller, better and more feature-rich phones all over the place.
In the keynote, Steve said "most countries" (not "all countries") when describing the $199 price.
You know, one that can handle pro apps, like out of the box reliable music and video editing and production including blu-ray authoring, burning, and full blu-ray support?
You know, kind of like Apple USED to be before all this millennial transistor radio iCrap?
One that has decent font support for desktop publishing, where even tens of thousands of postscript fonts/full postscript support don't slow the system down? (You could change system-wide fonts at will.) Like Amiga OS 3.1 in 1998?
Money is no object, and I'm serious and not trolling. Open to all suggestions BUT Apple since they've moved on to lesser and lesser portable iGadgets I have no interest in whatsoever being the rich dinosaur I am.
I don't think you can find "a" company like that. But I bet you can roll your own: Buy a Thinkpad (if you want a laptop), install OS X, XP and Linux, and then buy the best apps from dedicated companies. Audio: There are many companies out there that have tailored apps. Video: likewise, although a few less. And photo-manipulation: well, not so many, but at least they're dedicated.
I totally agree. Apple was special at one time. People who bought Apple knew what they were getting and for the right reasons. There was a sense of appreciation. Now everyone has them because its the cool thing to have. Its frustrating to see someone buy a MACBOOK PRO and the first thing they do is ask you where the internet browser is so they can download AOL AIM (not iChat) and Limewire... then they ask you to show them how to get to the thing that takes pictures.
Yea, its their money but it sucks. OH and teenybopper crowds surfing MySpace and initiating Photobooth sessions inside Apple stores annoy me. (end rant)
I want to know what happens when you sign up, leave the store, then loose *cough cough* the phone, and walk back into the store 3 mins later the cancel the contract. Do they just charge you the ~200? If so then its not a bad deal ;P
Though my credit is pure **** ;\ I dunno how I can get one.
Though my credit is pure **** ;\ I dunno how I can get one.
The N95 is a great phone. You'll find it'll have a better camera and possibly GPS. However it's more than 3 times the price.
And it's also not as good as a dedicated GPS for when you're in the Aussie Outback. And its camera is not as good as a dedicated digital camera.
For the price of the N95, you could buy the iPhone AND a digital camera or GPS.
Can anyone name just ONE?
Can anyone just name ONE of the MOST popular transistor radio manufacturers in the 60's that are still around?
On the other hand, Sony, who made video recorders for upwards of $20,000 (adjusted for inflation) a pop in the late 60's is still around.
iCrap does NOT a cutting-edge company make, and it does not make for longevity in the marketplace either.
It's a quick fix, a "bubble" of consumerism, and if Apple wants to continue to CONCENTRATE on making things that will go the way of the slinky and hula-hoop, it will have a place.
In HISTORY.
Apple would be wise to think about the things someone can ONLY do at a desktop, in the privacy of their own home or office. Since they're not interested in cutting-edge technology for THAT market anymore.
Oh wait, how could I forget. There will always be a handy public restroom somewhere. Remember the days when if the idiot in the next stall was talking to himself, he REALLY WAS TALKING TO HIMSELF?
Now, you better worry more if he's NOT talking...
Can anyone just name ONE of the MOST popular transistor radio manufacturers in the 60's that are still around?
On the other hand, Sony, who made video recorders for upwards of $20,000 (adjusted for inflation) a pop in the late 60's is still around.
iCrap does NOT a cutting-edge company make, and it does not make for longevity in the marketplace either.
It's a quick fix, a "bubble" of consumerism, and if Apple wants to continue to CONCENTRATE on making things that will go the way of the slinky and hula-hoop, it will have a place.
In HISTORY.
Apple would be wise to think about the things someone can ONLY do at a desktop, in the privacy of their own home or office. Since they're not interested in cutting-edge technology for THAT market anymore.
Oh wait, how could I forget. There will always be a handy public restroom somewhere. Remember the days when if the idiot in the next stall was talking to himself, he REALLY WAS TALKING TO HIMSELF?
Now, you better worry more if he's NOT talking...
I think they didn't have a choice.
They had to fit Bluetooth, 2G antenna, 3G antenna, WI-FI AND GPS antennas into that tiny plastic case like in the first iPhone. That's almost impossible. You must have plastic cover to get proper reception, metal isn't good enough.
because we all want to lug around a phone, AND a camera AND a GPS.....(defeats the purpose of an all-in-one device)
then again i shouldn't talk since i lug around all that and an n95, iphone, v9, gps, ipod, nuvi 770, and canon ixy2000...
register in one location but use in a 2nd country with different SIM
with in-store activation "required", any thinking on following:
if a person activates in one country and uses the iPhone in that country always with the SIM card of that country, but when he goes abroad, to avoid roaming charges, can the same iPhone handset be "re-registered" in a 2nd country and tied to a SIM card in that 2nd country. then later return to the 1st country and just insert the 1st country's SIM?
it seems that the entire door has been strategically left open for actually multiple carriers in each country (except USA).
with in-store activation "required", any thinking on following:
if a person activates in one country and uses the iPhone in that country always with the SIM card of that country, but when he goes abroad, to avoid roaming charges, can the same iPhone handset be "re-registered" in a 2nd country and tied to a SIM card in that 2nd country. then later return to the 1st country and just insert the 1st country's SIM?
it seems that the entire door has been strategically left open for actually multiple carriers in each country (except USA).
Damn, I just discovered there's no 3G coverage where I've just moved to as well... I'm kind of getting used to it though - there's no digital terrestrial TV or unbundled Internet either.
It's always easy to take technology for granted when living somewhere like Auckland. Oh boy.
And in the UK
UK Customers,
02 will be offering the 3G iPhone for:
£30/mo £99 for 8GB and £159 for 16GB;
£35/mo £99 for 8GB and £159 for 16GB;
£45/mo Free for 8Gb and £59 for 16GB;
£75/mo Free for 8GB and Free for 16GB.
Existing iPhone customers can upgrade for the same price and not face a cancellation fee between July 11th and October 11th.
02 are also offering a Pay & Go deal, although no further details have been given regarding this.
If you are giving/Selling your old iPhone to someone 02 have a 'special' Pay & Go sim for that phone.
Edit: Further details can be found here.
Now, if you ask me.... Thats a good deal!
UK Customers,
02 will be offering the 3G iPhone for:
£30/mo £99 for 8GB and £159 for 16GB;
£35/mo £99 for 8GB and £159 for 16GB;
£45/mo Free for 8Gb and £59 for 16GB;
£75/mo Free for 8GB and Free for 16GB.
Existing iPhone customers can upgrade for the same price and not face a cancellation fee between July 11th and October 11th.
02 are also offering a Pay & Go deal, although no further details have been given regarding this.
If you are giving/Selling your old iPhone to someone 02 have a 'special' Pay & Go sim for that phone.
Edit: Further details can be found here.
Now, if you ask me.... Thats a good deal!
Technically, you can make a slim phone stronger by using metal, thus reducing inner reinforcements. However, that next-to-useless Apple-taper will of course reduce the useable innards.
Oh, did I mention that since one can certainly have 3g in a metalhousing - you just don't want it to become a faraday cage. Take a look at the MBP's, the antennas just "peak out" of the screen. It's that simple, you know. Unless, of course, one decides that taper in order to look like that useless junk, the Airbook, is oh so fantastic and thus is needed.
On the other hand, the plastic back is most likely to be put there in order to save a few cents.
This is a perfectly valid point. That's why we have man-bags... oh, sorry, that was meant to be internal monologue.
This article is missing the fact that the $20 2G data plan came with 200 SMS.
The new $30 3G data plan comes with NO SMS. So it's $30 PLUS an SMS package.
The new pricing is absolutely insane and completely kills any lower price the iPhone itself may have. People should be flooding Steve and AT&T executive's E-Mail's saying that the price cut is obviously PR BS, and that this is ridiculous.
I was going to switch from Verizon at $199, but not with an extra $15 (with SMS) per month, and remember, that $15 is subject to high wireless taxes as well.
The new $30 3G data plan comes with NO SMS. So it's $30 PLUS an SMS package.
The new pricing is absolutely insane and completely kills any lower price the iPhone itself may have. People should be flooding Steve and AT&T executive's E-Mail's saying that the price cut is obviously PR BS, and that this is ridiculous.
I was going to switch from Verizon at $199, but not with an extra $15 (with SMS) per month, and remember, that $15 is subject to high wireless taxes as well.
Wait and see
I was planning on getting the 3G as soon as it was available. But now I'm planning to wait to see if my current iPhone with 2.0 software will do until a model with more memory and maybe a front-mounted camera comes out.
I also want to wait and see if any of the third party apps make up for deficiencies in the iPhone's updated software, although I'm not optimistic on that front.
And, despite all the love from corporate types at the keynote, I'm skeptical that the 3G iPhone is going to make any serious inroads there, at least until it offers all the features the BlackBerry does, like voice commands.
I was planning on getting the 3G as soon as it was available. But now I'm planning to wait to see if my current iPhone with 2.0 software will do until a model with more memory and maybe a front-mounted camera comes out.
I also want to wait and see if any of the third party apps make up for deficiencies in the iPhone's updated software, although I'm not optimistic on that front.
And, despite all the love from corporate types at the keynote, I'm skeptical that the 3G iPhone is going to make any serious inroads there, at least until it offers all the features the BlackBerry does, like voice commands.
It's not the 3G - GPS is absolutely killed by metal (any nearly anything else, which is why it doesn't work indoors).. they couldn't have GPS and a metal back. They could have stuck the the mixed metal/plastic of the v1 I guess.. seems they decided not to do that.
If yu think a gps cannot work indoors, try this:
http://www.silva.se/templates/Products____94.aspx?epslanguage=EN&productId={627CD2F6-78D4-4843-8040-54B4FA685227}
Anyway, of course these things doesn't work in a full metal-closure as that is a faraday cage (no antenna, be it gsm, 3 g, 2g or fm will), But we're talking about the back, just like the old iPhone.
The leaked internal AT&T document mentions that "If the customer cancels service after 30 days, they will be charged the ETF. The customer is not required to return the device to cancel after 30 days."
It also mentions the following regarding the activation thing (it CAN still be activated at home if they let you leave the store without activating it):
(Yeah. I read the whole damn thing.)
It also mentions the following regarding the activation thing (it CAN still be activated at home if they let you leave the store without activating it):
The current iTunes activation process will no longer be required for iPhone 3Gs, however a short tether process to unbrick the 3G device will be performed in all AT&T stores (tether cords will be provided). Apple stores will also perform this tether process, however in the event that a customer's device is not tethered in the Apple store, their device will be inoperable until they get home and tether through iTunes.
(Yeah. I read the whole damn thing.)
Yes, by far, as have most of the people I know with one. It needs to be about twice as loud in both speakers.
i think that has to be the right interpretation. the previous plans reflected the fact that you were paying full price for iphone so there was a reduction in the monthly cost. whereas now iphone is subsidised so you have to pay the usual monthly rates because
surely though you're not paying more for 3G. the price is for data no matter at what speed it's delivered. the price increase is because there is a subsidy in place meaning that you don't get cheaper monthly costs. not because iphone is now 3G. the fact that iphone is now capable of 3G is merely coincidental.
I think one of the gamechangers Apple has brought to the US - and perhpas other - markets is the concept of subsidised handsets on a big scale. I would expect to see the carriers follow suit with the other handset manufacturers so those previously hideously expensive phones might become much more attainable.