I agree with both -- at least a couple buttons needed even for usefulness as a phone. With other phones, I don't have to look at my phone to answer or kill a call, etc...
...and that keyboard...
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I agree with both -- at least a couple buttons needed even for usefulness as a phone. With other phones, I don't have to look at my phone to answer or kill a call, etc...
...and that keyboard...
...and that keyboard...
Oh, you mean that keyboard I type 45-50 WPM on, faster than my colleagues who use CrackBerrys? Oh ya, that one...
Look, you're just on the board to bash the iPhone. I don't understand why. Everyone already knows all of the criticisms you're making, so it's not like you're bringing anything new to the table.
i must say, for all the great features the iPhone has that the thread starter does not appreciate, and then for some of the truley inane features the iPhone doesn't have that the thread starter wishes it did...
Thank God the thread starter is not the target market
Then again, if that were the case, no one would have to wait in line for an iPhone.
It would suck.
Thank God the thread starter is not the target market
Then again, if that were the case, no one would have to wait in line for an iPhone.
It would suck.
Valid Points....
I think the OP had some valid points, though his tone was a little aggressive.
I am a LONG TIME PALM/TREO user who has placed their order through Fulfillment and I'm impatiently waiting for my iPhone to arrive, but I do have some reservations about the device.
What is the target market may I ask? Any good business would target businesses before individuals. Who pays more on average for a phone plan? A 16 year old Apple Fanboy or a Corporate user? My guess is that the corporate user wouldn't bat an eye at the $45 Exchange data fee. I know I wouldn't. I don't bat an eye when it comes to business expenses. You have to spend money to make money! Most people don't feel that way...
I run a small business and productivity is important. Right now with my Treo, it takes me seconds to find and call someone. Hopefully the iPhone will be similar. I've played with it, but until I use it real world for email, voice, & data... I'll reserve judgement.
I used a Blackberry for a couple of days.... what a piece of junk....
The OP had a good point about some basic features that other cell phones include that apple could have easily included, but as an engineer I understand tradeoffs.
I think the OP had some valid points, though his tone was a little aggressive.
I am a LONG TIME PALM/TREO user who has placed their order through Fulfillment and I'm impatiently waiting for my iPhone to arrive, but I do have some reservations about the device.
What is the target market may I ask? Any good business would target businesses before individuals. Who pays more on average for a phone plan? A 16 year old Apple Fanboy or a Corporate user? My guess is that the corporate user wouldn't bat an eye at the $45 Exchange data fee. I know I wouldn't. I don't bat an eye when it comes to business expenses. You have to spend money to make money! Most people don't feel that way...
I run a small business and productivity is important. Right now with my Treo, it takes me seconds to find and call someone. Hopefully the iPhone will be similar. I've played with it, but until I use it real world for email, voice, & data... I'll reserve judgement.
I used a Blackberry for a couple of days.... what a piece of junk....
The OP had a good point about some basic features that other cell phones include that apple could have easily included, but as an engineer I understand tradeoffs.
Great post, I'll just comment on some points.
Like Proctor and Gamble? No, but really, the iPhone is now pretty well suited both for businesses and just consumers.
My dad has a Treo, and I can tell you the iPhone is a lot better, even for normal use. Sure, you can't no look dial very well, but a simple double tap of the home key in ANY program, you will be immediately transported to your Phone apps favorites screen which is fully customizable.
Like Proctor and Gamble? No, but really, the iPhone is now pretty well suited both for businesses and just consumers.
My dad has a Treo, and I can tell you the iPhone is a lot better, even for normal use. Sure, you can't no look dial very well, but a simple double tap of the home key in ANY program, you will be immediately transported to your Phone apps favorites screen which is fully customizable.
Proctor & Gamble does not make communications devices....
I hope so. I opted not for the original iPhone even though I thought it was cool. Lack of third party was huge for me.
I've been using Palm products for almost ten years, and I mean USE. I'm a very heavy power user who uses the phone to the max.... TomTom GPS, Push email on 9 accounts, fully customized... you name it. I've even had OTA calender sync with my home computer for years.... amazing that people think that this is new, but Palm has had it available for years!!
I'm going in with a very open mind and I am very much looking forward to getting the device! I'm completely Mac at home (24" iMac & 2.5 MBP) and can't wait to use it!
But just because I think it's a good device doesn't mean I have to defend it and can't acknowledge some shortcomings. Nobody or thing is perfect....
I think, coming from Palm, that you are going to severely miss a lack of universal search. All the search it has is just for contacts, and I'm eagerly awaiting a Spotlight-light application for the iPhone.
If all the good companies were targeting business before individuals, then that would create a good opportunity for one good business to target individuals, now wouldn't it.
But I *should* be -- that's the point.
Apple was and is totally capable of meeting these needs.
And they aren't that obscure -- there are lots of people with these needs.
Why should "you" be the target for the iphone?
I don't think your needs are all that general and the 1 million plus sales of the 3g iphone suggest that many would agree.
If it's not for you, fine just accept it and move on. Resist the urge to come on the iphone forum and declaring that it's lame simply because it does do what you want.
If everybody followed your example, we would be on the htc and other win mobile forums whining they are lame and that we want a phone that has a nice ui, has good media facilities, has a decent web browser and doesn't look like a piece of crap.
The Google App does a nice job of searching through the contacts on the phone.
Like 10 of these applications available.
It is there.
VOIP is there.
Many applications to handle this.
Typed One already there, Wordpress coming soon.
There is a filemanager that allows you to manage and manipulate files on the desktop.
Probably 15 apps with this functionality.
At least 3 of these available now.
Built into the phone as part of 2.0
Burro what is your point in posting here? Clearly you know almost nothing about the iPhone. So are you just here to incite people?
Any adult who has managed to drop their phone more than 2 or 3 times in a year has some serious issues and probably should not own anything that costs more than $20.