Iphone 3g with 32GB in less whan a month? many people will be upset.

[jmpage2]

While I understand listening to a lower bitrate and sound quality can put a damper on the enjoyment (radio stations) ; I have just tested Simplify with the same song streamed from my mac at home & the same file that is already stored on my iPhone.

While I don't know much about the compression used to stream audio files on a 3G network, I have noticed no change in sound quality. To my ears, it works wonders.

With only a 5 second buffer. <- and that I will not complain about.

What is the bitrate of the file? How was it ripped? What headphones do you use, the stock earbuds? They are terrible.

I listen to MP3 that is LANE encoded with APX presets, it results in a VBR file averaging usually 220-280 kbps. Even then I can tell the difference between that and an uncompressed file from the same CD.

 

[Opie]

I wont be upset. More power to em. 16g is enough for me.

 

[brn2ski00]

Well, I guess I'm happy with my 16gig atm. Sure, DOUBLE the space might be handy but then the price would be a bit more so i guess I'll wait until August 2010 when my contract ends and the 128gig iPhone will be cheaper

128GB -- no chance. The will be 120GB

 

[hayduke]

Upset?

Upset? No. A little jealous? Sure. 16GBs is pretty good though - I can't complain!

 

[Tallest Skil]

128GB -- no chance. The will be 120GB

Uh... 128GB is a multiple of 2... All flash memory goes by powers of two.

2, 4, 8, 16, 32, 64, 128, 256, 512, etc...

 

[impact_blue]

No way no how. iPod touch just released and an iphone upgrade would detract from their iPod touch/nano sales.

Both are different markets.

 

[mcnicks]

The way I see it, if I cannot fit my entire music collection onto my iPhone, then the difference between 8Gb, 16Gb and 32Gb is somewhat academic. I have smart playlists set up so that I get all tracks that I have added in the last month or so, plus a bunch of my favourite tracks (starred) plus a bunch of other random tracks. The playlists leave out tracks that have been played in the last week or skipped in the last month so, every time I sync my iPhone, I get a nice selection of new, old, random and favourite tracks.

 

[mBox]

meh 16 gb is more than enough for me, and probably most people with an iphone
32 seems a bit overkill unless people also wanna use it as their main music device

sadly my apps take up more space than my tunes and movies combined I think 16GB was overkill for me

 

[zelmo]

The way I see it, if I cannot fit my entire music collection onto my iPhone, then the difference between 8Gb, 16Gb and 32Gb is somewhat academic. I have smart playlists set up so that I get all tracks that I have added in the last month or so, plus a bunch of my favourite tracks (starred) plus a bunch of other random tracks. The playlists leave out tracks that have been played in the last week or skipped in the last month so, every time I sync my iPhone, I get a nice selection of new, old, random and favourite tracks.

I agree, although if there had been a 32GB iPhone when I got my 16GB, I definitely would have gone for it. I'm carrying around 7GB of music, and smart playlists fill in the voids fairly well, but there are times when I want to hear something I don't have with me. 32GB won't allow my to have ALL of my music, so maybe there'll be a 128GB iPhone by the time my contract is up. Also, I doubt Apple will have 32GB in an iPhone before there is 64GB in an iPod Touch, or at least within a few months. July 2009 for a 32GB iPhone and September 2009 for a 64GB Touch seems likely to me...but I have no problems with them doing either much sooner.

 

[Amorpheus]

Feature upgrade in Summer, Capacity upgrade in Spring. Works for me.

 

[Turmoil]

Why would anyone get upset. Computers increase in capacity and decrease in price. This is a Good Thing (tm). Be happy with what you have. You'll enjoy life more.

 

[Psyxologos]

Well, if you ask me, they HAVE to do it. Google Android is going to hit them like a ton of bricks. From what I saw on youtube, Android is going to be a MUCH better phone, MUCH cheaper.

About time, I say....

 

[jmpage2]

Well, if you ask me, they HAVE to do it. Google Android is going to hit them like a ton of bricks. From what I saw on youtube, Android is going to be a MUCH better phone, MUCH cheaper.

About time, I say....

I agree, competition is good for everyone. Apple's been in the top spot now for over a year, time to see how things are going to be with them now that an open platform competitor is arriving on the scene.

 

[Michael CM1]

The rumor is being generated because of the 8GB model drying up in the channel, similar to what happened with the 4GB iPhone not very long after launch when they eliminated it. There are a number of reasons this could be happening such as bad forecasting of demand, switching inventory to Best Buy stores, etc. It is a possibility though that the 8GB model is being eliminated. It's also possible that Apple bumps capacity to coincide with the launch of the HTC android handset which will take standard memory cards and offer greater than 16GB capacity.

Additionally you are mistaken about the capability of the current iPhone model to go to 32GB. Toshiba started production of the 32GB chip which would work with either the iPhone or the iPod Touch back in June of this year, so it's likely that there is high enough quantity to do this if Apple desires.

Next time you feel the need to dump all over a rumor at least try to have your facts straight.

Thank you for this post. I knew I had read that someone started making 32GB chips, but I couldn't recall whom.

I also don't get the "well I have enough storage space" people who poo poo on any update rumors. That really has very little to do with anything Apple is planning to do. Some of us like to put videos on iPhones, and I'm sure Apple would love it if people carried videos around on iPods with some method of playback at other people's homes instead of carrying DVDs. I'm sure there were some people a decade ago who wondered why you'd need a notebook as powerful as a desktop.

 

[drastik]

A long time ago I posted to MacRumors my fool-proof reasoning why the next-gen TiBooks would not have a super-drive. You can look it up if you want to poke fun. The point is: I had sound logic for not including a DVD burner on a laptop, mainly that most people who needed that function would use a desktop computer.

The same idea applies here. If you want/need and iPhone, buy the 16 and you'll be happy. If you want all your music/videos on one device, get a classic 120. Different devices are targeted at different users. Personally, I'm happy with my 16 and keep it less than half full. It's a trouser computer. I have a big iPod to carry all my media, but I rarely use it. The upside of limited capacity is that I concentrate my media on things I really love, not 60 gigs of songs I never listen to.

 

[jmpage2]

A long time ago I posted to MacRumors my fool-proof reasoning why the next-gen TiBooks would not have a super-drive. You can look it up if you want to poke fun. The point is: I had sound logic for not including a DVD burner on a laptop, mainly that most people who needed that function would use a desktop computer.

The same idea applies here. If you want/need and iPhone, buy the 16 and you'll be happy. If you want all your music/videos on one device, get a classic 120. Different devices are targeted at different users. Personally, I'm happy with my 16 and keep it less than half full. It's a trouser computer. I have a big iPod to carry all my media, but I rarely use it. The upside of limited capacity is that I concentrate my media on things I really love, not 60 gigs of songs I never listen to.

Apple has clearly positioned the iPhone as the "one device" integrated solution that is designed to solve the problem of carrying more than one device.

This is the argument that is particularly painful to hear because of how bone headed it is.

Hey, the iPhone doesn't have enough storage, so carry two devices, even though the whole point of the iPhone is to have one device that does everything for you!

iPhone capacity will go up, it's a fact. The only question is if we see a cap bump now or in February (similar to the very quiet Valentine's day 32GB iPod Touch bump this year).

 

[Anuba]

Apple has clearly positioned the iPhone as the "one device" integrated solution that is designed to solve the problem of carrying more than one device

IMO the current storage capacity isn't why the iPhone fails as the "one device", the battery is. Ooooh it's so great, you can surf and read mail and play games and navigate by GPS and watch movies and TV shows and listen to audio books and music and blah blah blah, but if you actually use it to its full potential, you won't stay mobile for more than 3 hours before you have to recharge the bloody thing. And because you need it for taking calls, you don't dare waste the battery on anything fun or useful, unless you're at home or have the charger with you.

It should have been constructed like the Logitech G7 which comes with two batteries, one is always in the charger/receiver so that you can always swap when the one in the mouse runs out. It's done in two seconds. If the iPhone worked like this, people could go on the road with two, three, or hey why not a 6-pack of charged Li-Ion batteries. But no, that would have required a battery door and the iPhone might have been a fraction of an inch thicker... and then Steve can't brag about how INCREDIBLY THIN it is, and this always overrides any practical or user-beneficial aspects.

The #1 topic of this forum is battery life. OMG battery life went down, went up, post your usage stats, is my battery defective, blah blah blah. Apparently, proper care of the almighty iPhone involves disabling all features (BT, GPS, 3G, Push, Fetch etc) and storing it in a fridge.

 

[ryanwarsaw]

I have a 16 GB phone and won't be upset at all. I am not sure if I will buy another iPhone but for example...... If the 32 GB comes out sooner the 64 GB and higher come out sooner as well. So next time I go for an upgrade in 18 months hopefully more cycles have been done and I end up with a bigger capacity than 32 GB and all of those people that bought one will be pissed off.

 

[neesh0]

ill upgrade from 1st gen 8gb to 3g 32gb if it is less than $450

 

[jmpage2]

IMO the current storage capacity isn't why the iPhone fails as the "one device", the battery is. Ooooh it's so great, you can surf and read mail and play games and navigate by GPS and watch movies and TV shows and listen to audio books and music and blah blah blah, but if you actually use it to its full potential, you won't stay mobile for more than 3 hours before you have to recharge the bloody thing. And because you need it for taking calls, you don't dare waste the battery on anything fun or useful, unless you're at home or have the charger with you.

It should have been constructed like the Logitech G7 which comes with two batteries, one is always in the charger/receiver so that you can always swap when the one in the mouse runs out. It's done in two seconds. If the iPhone worked like this, people could go on the road with two, three, or hey why not a 6-pack of charged Li-Ion batteries. But no, that would have required a battery door and the iPhone might have been a fraction of an inch thicker... and then Steve can't brag about how INCREDIBLY THIN it is, and this always overrides any practical or user-beneficial aspects.

The #1 topic of this forum is battery life. OMG battery life went down, went up, post your usage stats, is my battery defective, blah blah blah. Apparently, proper care of the almighty iPhone involves disabling all features (BT, GPS, 3G, Push, Fetch etc) and storing it in a fridge.

It might not have occurred to you that some of us have jobs and actually have real work to do between time to play with a phone.

Interesting concept I know.

Additionally many of us with a j.o.b. work with these things called computers that have USB ports that can charge an iphone while we are doing other work stuff.

I know it must be torturous for all of you kids out there that you can't get PSP type battery life out of your iPhone, but for us adults it's not such a big deal that we might have to charge it mid-day, that is if we even have to charge it since we aren't using it non stop all day long.

 

[madfresh]

This is the way technology works.

 

[dmbrem99]

Additionally many of us with a j.o.b. work with these things called computers that have USB ports that can charge an iphone while we are doing other work stuff.

... but for us adults it's not such a big deal that we might have to charge it mid-day, that is if we even have to charge it since we aren't using it non stop all day long.

This is one of the questions I have about the iPhone...

1) If you plug it into you computer to keep it charged, does it act like an iPod and become "useless" with a flashing 'do not disconnect' icon or can it still except calls/be functional?

2) If you constantly plug the iPhone into a computer, day-after-day, does it compromise the life, or integerty, of the battery or will the battery life stay at a constant charge?

cheers, jake.

 

[jmpage2]

This is one of the questions I have about the iPhone...

1) If you plug it into you computer to keep it charged, does it act like an iPod and become "useless" with a flashing 'do not disconnect' icon or can it still except calls/be functional?

2) If you constantly plug the iPhone into a computer, day-after-day, does it compromise the life, or integerty, of the battery or will the battery life stay at a constant charge?

cheers, jake.

The iPhone and iPod touch do not display a "not safe to disconnect" type message, they can be plugged in and unplugged dynamically, you can even plug it in to a PC that doesn't have iTunes loaded on it and it will charge and continue to function.

Yes, this will eventually compromise the battery life, lithium ion batteries start to have degraded performance after about 200-500 duty cycles, so about 18-24 months after getting the phone you will probably start to notice reduced battery capability. Apple will replace the battery for about $90 or you can do it yourself if you have the know how to take the device apart.

 

[iDanielle]

well i for one wouldn't be upset. I would never put that much music/video on my phone because I'm obsessed with keeping it "new" looking. I have a separate device for all that junk.

 

[Pandora01]

I doubt a 32GB model will be coming out next month; next year, maybe. But even if it does, that's fine with me. Downgrading from a 60GB iPod to the 16GB iPod touch that I had before my iPhone forced me to learn to manage my playlists better. Now I'm very comfortable rotating them around. I also have plenty of video on there (including a couple of episodes of Fringe) and apps, and I still have room left over, so 32GB wouldn't make much difference to me.

If a 32GB model came out next summer, I would consider upgrading if it had substantial hardware differences. But I can't even think of what it might have that would make me want to trade up that soon. I'm more looking forward to future software upgrades.