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well i for one wouldn't be upset. I would never put that much music/video on my phone because I'm obsessed with keeping it "new" looking. I have a separate device for all that junk.

Do you mean you don't put music and video on it because you want to use it as little as possible to keep it looking new? How does playing music or video on it make it look less new? :confused:
 
It might not have occurred to you that some of us have jobs and actually have real work to do between time to play with a phone.

Interesting concept I know.

Additionally many of us with a j.o.b. work with these things called computers that have USB ports that can charge an iphone while we are doing other work stuff.

I know it must be torturous for all of you kids out there that you can't get PSP type battery life out of your iPhone, but for us adults it's not such a big deal that we might have to charge it mid-day, that is if we even have to charge it since we aren't using it non stop all day long.
Wow, congratulations on your first job, jmpage2! Your parents must be very proud (and relieved that you're finally moving out of their basement). Flipping burgers may not have been your first choice, but hey -- keep it up for a few years and you may advance to junior assistant cheese griller. Congratulations also for discovering the bold tag. It's quite fascinating how you manage to make your weak points look even weaker by emphasizing them.

Now, contrary to your laughable hypothesis that anyone who actually uses the iPhone for everything it's supposed to be used for must be an unemployed teen slacker, many of us 30- and 40-somethings who are in the middle of our careers have to travel a lot on the job, and thus spend endless hours on long flights, on trains, in airports and in cabs. Places that are ideal for winding down and killing a few hours by playing a game or watching a movie or TV show. Places where there's not always a power outlet where you can plug in the charger. And since the iPhone's pathetic excuse for a battery is only good for a couple of hours of video playback (5 hours is a big fat lie, just like "250 hours standby" claim), and you can't pop in a fresh battery like on a normal phone, you constantly have to be mindful of power consumption to be on the safe side in case you have to make calls before you arrive at the hotel -- or to a meeting, where you can ask if you can sit near a power outlet where you can plug in your phone, like some farmer. This is why the iPhone fails miserably in the "one device" department. This is why I always have to bring my iPod Touch for doing all the stuff that iPhone is supposed to do, while the iPhone is reduced to serving as, well, a phone.
 
Question from Newbie

I apologize for my entry level question here but hope someone will answer for me. I have the 2G iphone and am having a multitude of problems, battery, touch not being accepted, trying to dial a number and it defaults to a contacts page (not the person I'm trying to call), calls being dropped, calls not ringing through, etc. I love .mac email and wonder if I choose to get another phone instead of replacing this one with another iphone - can I access .mac email from other cell phones, i.e. Blackberry?:confused:
 
Wow, congratulations on your first job, jmpage2! Your parents must be very proud (and relieved that you're finally moving out of their basement). Flipping burgers may not have been your first choice, but hey -- keep it up for a few years and you may advance to junior assistant cheese griller. Congratulations also for discovering the bold tag. It's quite fascinating how you manage to make your weak points look even weaker by emphasizing them.

Now, contrary to your laughable hypothesis that anyone who actually uses the iPhone for everything it's supposed to be used for must be an unemployed teen slacker, many of us 30- and 40-somethings who are in the middle of our careers have to travel a lot on the job, and thus spend endless hours on long flights, on trains, in airports and in cabs. Places that are ideal for winding down and killing a few hours by playing a game or watching a movie or TV show. Places where there's not always a power outlet where you can plug in the charger. And since the iPhone's pathetic excuse for a battery is only good for a couple of hours of video playback (5 hours is a big fat lie, just like "250 hours standby" claim), and you can't pop in a fresh battery like on a normal phone, you constantly have to be mindful of power consumption to be on the safe side in case you have to make calls before you arrive at the hotel -- or to a meeting, where you can ask if you can sit near a power outlet where you can plug in your phone, like some farmer. This is why the iPhone fails miserably in the "one device" department. This is why I always have to bring my iPod Touch for doing all the stuff that iPhone is supposed to do, while the iPhone is reduced to serving as, well, a phone.

You can always buy a battery extender. It's really not that difficult to find them.

Or you can continue to gripe about the battery. Either way works. However the first option would be a bit more proactive, IMHO.
 
You can always buy a battery extender. It's really not that difficult to find them.
Of course I can, that's not the point. What we were discussing was whether the iPhone lives up to the 'one device' concept out of the box. Some say no, due to the relatively limited storage capacity, I say no, due to the short battery life and the inability to swap the battery on the fly.

It all ties into a bigger discussion about Apple's recent obsession with the thin form factor and how they allow that to dictate which features and capabilities are compromised or even ditched entirely.

Clearly, the battery is one of the biggest issues with the iPhone. It's the most popular topic on this subforum, the web is littered with articles and discussions about it, and dubious battery life was even the punchline of SNL's iPhone bit on Weekend Update ("20 minutes!").
 
yeah, battery extender is the way to go for people that can't do a mid-day charge. i think the iphone battery is good. of course i welcome more battery life, but i rather have more hardware/software available to use (iphone) than a do-nothing phone that last 2 weeks on its battery.
 
Of course I can, that's not the point. What we were discussing was whether the iPhone lives up to the 'one device' concept out of the box. Some say no, due to the relatively limited storage capacity, I say no, due to the short battery life and the inability to swap the battery on the fly.

It all ties into a bigger discussion about Apple's recent obsession with the thin form factor and how they allow that to dictate which features and capabilities are compromised or even ditched entirely.

Clearly, the battery is one of the biggest issues with the iPhone. It's the most popular topic on this subforum, the web is littered with articles and discussions about it, and dubious battery life was even the punchline of SNL's iPhone bit on Weekend Update ("20 minutes!").

Fair enough. I agree with most of your comments.

My point still stands though... and that is anyone who can gripe about the iPhone's battery can find some sort of solution to it, be it a 3rd party add-on or just going with another device altogether.

FWIW, those doing most of the complaining must be new to smartphones, or PDA's in general. Coming from many Windows Mobile devices I can honestly say the battery life is par for the course. Some individuals just expect to do desktop-style web browsing and not have the battery take a hit.
 
Do you mean you don't put music and video on it because you want to use it as little as possible to keep it looking new? How does playing music or video on it make it look less new? :confused:


Because if you use it as often as you use your mp3 player and jog and workout with it like I do it would start to wear and tear.
 
Wow, congratulations on your first job, jmpage2! Your parents must be very proud (and relieved that you're finally moving out of their basement). Flipping burgers may not have been your first choice, but hey -- keep it up for a few years and you may advance to junior assistant cheese griller. Congratulations also for discovering the bold tag. It's quite fascinating how you manage to make your weak points look even weaker by emphasizing them.

Actually I'm a network engineer who makes six figures, but hey, thanks for playing, it was good for a laugh! I travel for work frequently too and have never had a problem finding a place to charge my phone. There are always outlets available in the airports, 12V outlets in automobiles, etc. If I can manage with a laptop that has a 2 hour battery life I'm certainly not going to whine and cry about a device with near laptop capabilities that can only run for 4-5 hours of non stop use.
 
Fair enough. I agree with most of your comments.

My point still stands though... and that is anyone who can gripe about the iPhone's battery can find some sort of solution to it, be it a 3rd party add-on or just going with another device altogether.

FWIW, those doing most of the complaining must be new to smartphones, or PDA's in general. Coming from many Windows Mobile devices I can honestly say the battery life is par for the course. Some individuals just expect to do desktop-style web browsing and not have the battery take a hit.
Yeah, I agree that the battery life is not too shabby for a smartphone. But most smartphones don't have the range and versatility of iPhone (at least they didn't when the original iPhone was released). The probability of the user doing stuff on an iPhone that drains the battery is much higher, and heavy usage is very much encouraged by Apple. The iPhone is sold as "three products in one — a revolutionary phone, a widescreen iPod, and a breakthrough Internet device with rich HTML email and a desktop-class web browser", but it sure doesn't have the battery capacity of three products, it has enough juice for the phone OR the iPod OR the 'breakthrough internet device'. The new iPod Touch is only two products in one (per Apple's definition), but has a bigger battery than the iPhone. Why? Well, I guess there were fewer components to squeeze in, but if that becomes a problem you make the enclosure a little bigger, you don't make the device less capable.
 
Fair enough. I agree with most of your comments.

My point still stands though... and that is anyone who can gripe about the iPhone's battery can find some sort of solution to it, be it a 3rd party add-on or just going with another device altogether.

FWIW, those doing most of the complaining must be new to smartphones, or PDA's in general. Coming from many Windows Mobile devices I can honestly say the battery life is par for the course. Some individuals just expect to do desktop-style web browsing and not have the battery take a hit.

Exactly! The battery on the iPhone is no worse than on similar smart phones, those whining must have been using a basic phone when they enjoyed their 4-5 days of battery bliss.

The only phone in the smart phone category that has knockout battery life is the Blackberry, and it has very limited internet and media capabilities compared to the iphone.
 
Exactly! The battery on the iPhone is no worse than on similar smart phones, those whining must have been using a basic phone when they enjoyed their 4-5 days of battery bliss.
Well, before the iPhone I had a SonyEricsson P1i, which is a Symbian-based smartphone. It has a larger battery and will easily do a week of standby time with 3G enabled. But due to the awful implementation of the internet and media capabilities, I didn't use it for any of those things. Just for calls and texting, and occasionally taking photos.

The only phone in the smart phone category that has knockout battery life is the Blackberry, and it has very limited internet and media capabilities compared to the iphone.
That's exactly my point... it's not that the battery is subpar for smartphones in general, it's that the iPhone's battery life is disproportionate to the iPhone's capabilities. Most smartphones don't come close to iPhone in terms of versatility, and they don't have a giant LCD screen to power. If you were to make some giant heavy-duty quad-core laptop with a 19" screen, desktop-grade video card and a 10,000 RPM hard drive, and preload it with games, you don't give it the battery from a MacBook Air and argue 'well it's good enough for other laptops'.

Steve Jobs brags about how the iPhone has made utilization of the internet capabilities go from 10% for smartphones on average to 90% for the iPhone. He calls it three products in one. Fine, so then don't give it a regular smartphone battery!
 
What we were discussing was whether the iPhone lives up to the 'one device' concept out of the box. Some say no, due to the relatively limited storage capacity, I say no, due to the short battery life and the inability to swap the battery on the fly.

Not to pick a fight or anything, but what "We" (the people in this thread) were discussing is a 32gb upgrade in memory coming soon. The whole 'one device' topic kind of hijacked the thread.

And of course by "we" I'm not really including me because this is my first post in this thread, but I think my point still stands.

:D:D:D
 
Not to pick a fight or anything, but what "We" (the people in this thread) were discussing is a 32gb upgrade in memory coming soon. The whole 'one device' topic kind of hijacked the thread.

And of course by "we" I'm not really including me because this is my first post in this thread, but I think my point still stands.

:D:D:D
Oh, I couldn't agree more. I was referring to the discussion that hijacked the discussion, because the discussion that hijacked the discussion was at risk of being hijacked by yet another discussion. :D

Topic is: Is there a 32 GB version coming in a month, and will previous iPhone 3G owners be upset?
 
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