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iPhone 4 is Faster than 3GS and Slower than iPad in Early Benchmarks

Well a 30% jump over the 3GS would substantiate an upgrade for me, but I'm upgrading from the 3G so I shudder to think of the huge difference! Can't wait.


inb4butthurt3GSownerswho"heldout"ontheiPhone4thinkingthatitwasn'tthatbigofanupgradeandcallthiscomparisonbull****
 
Arisian said:
I'm not saying you are wrong - please don't hear me picking on you. I'm not.

However, do we know this for a fact. I've read a few articles that suggest it does. I personally agreed with you right off the batt, I would strongly assume it doesn't, but I have no proof.

So my question: Are we sure that it doesn't?

Again, not singling you out or even remotely disagreeing w/ you. I tend to agree w/ you - just wondering if we know that for a fact.

Cheers,
Brian
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Lets turn it around instead, why would low battery affect speed? Have you seen any kind of evidence for it. This is the sort of thing that should be easily tested, especially on the IOS4 which shows battery %. Make a app that just exercises the cpu and times it. Test at different intervals, say at 90, 80, 70% etc. Even without the battery % it should be easily done on the 3.1.3 platform. So far i have yet to see anyone try that.

Also, i'm not sure how much battery you would actually save by lowering the cpu. You would have to lower it by a significant amount to see any kind of noticeable power saving and then the UI would probably suffer, something i have never seen myself in effect.
 
how about the 3g?

Could anyone run this (geekbench) test on their 2G or 3G iphone? I had a 3G but it broke, and I just want to know how much faster this is than the 3G since I've never used a 3GS before, therefore making the comparison in the original post mean nothing to me. lol

Screenshot of the score would be great!

Thanks!
 
blomma said:
Lets turn it around instead, why would low battery affect speed? Have you seen any kind of evidence for it. This is the sort of thing that should be easily tested, especially on the IOS4 which shows battery %. Make a app that just exercises the cpu and times it. Test at different intervals, say at 90, 80, 70% etc. Even without the battery % it should be easily done on the 3.1.3 platform. So far i have yet to see anyone try that.

Also, i'm not sure how much battery you would actually save by lowering the cpu. You would have to lower it by a significant amount to see any kind of noticeable power saving and then the UI would probably suffer, something i have never seen myself in effect.
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I have noticed that using my laptop, it is a lot faster when connected to the battery cable (even if the battery is at 100% charge). Don't know if this adds anything relevant to the discussion.
 
wikoogle said:
What? So the antenna isn't better? They made it huge though. I thought that was the point of making the whole bezel an antenna. :mad:
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I can't see how this bigger antena is not better, I say its where you are and thank ATT for a lot of the problems, I wonder if Apple is going to just buy out a Telephone company in the future. :D

And someone commented on him having a white one, I thought they where not out yet?
 
Blues003 said:
I have noticed that using my laptop, it is a lot faster when connected to the battery cable (even if the battery is at 100% charge). Don't know if this adds anything relevant to the discussion.
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This is probably due to energy saving settings on your machine.

Unplugged: Screen dims faster, sleep mode sooner, turns off harddrive sooner, uses less processor to conserve battery

Plugged in: Screen never dims, no sleep, no harddrive off, etc.
 
The reason I'm waiting at least for iPhone 5 is that the A4 in iPhone 4 has the trouble of dealing with the crazy Retina Display. This sucks away performance. Initially I hoped Apple may include its next chip, A5 into this handset. This issue is comparable to the current iMacs. While they have average GPUs as BTO they have CRAZY resolutions that kill the GPU...
Fortunately while these reolutions won't keep increasing much in the forseeable future the CPU und GPU performance will so this issue will become smaller and smaller in the next years.
 
Minimoose 360 said:
Well a 30% jump over the 3GS would substantiate an upgrade for me, but I'm upgrading from the 3G so I shudder to think of the huge difference! Can't wait.


inb4butthurt3GSownerswho"heldout"ontheiPhone4thinkingthatitwasn'tthatbigofanupgradeandcallthiscomparisonbull****
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Same here, and from what I have seen of the 3GS vs the 3G it was a big jump so the iphone 4 is going to be blazing fast for 3G users, at least for the first few weeks ;) after that we will wish we could over clock the sucker and put a turbo in it. :p
 
I think you'll find that a lot of things go wrong if there is insufficient voltage/current coming from a battery (like things will start turning off). You'll also find that laptop batteries provide a constant voltage/current to the entire system.

When you play games on your laptop on battery, does the framerate drop when the battery is running low?

doctoree said:
The reason I'm waiting at least for iPhone 5 is that the A4 in iPhone 4 has the trouble of dealing with the crazy Retina Display. This sucks away performance. Initially I hoped Apple may include its next chip, A5 into this handset. This issue is comparable to the current iMacs. While they have average GPUs as BTO they have CRAZY resolutions that kill the GPU...
Fortunately while these reolutions won't keep increasing much in the forseeable future the CPU und GPU performance will so this issue will become smaller and smaller in the next years.
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It's only in games that you'll find that the screen resolution slows down anything. And in that vein, the developer will ensure that their game will run perfectly on the device. The iPhone is a single device that the dev can target for improvements. The iMac is just one of a million machines that a game has been made for, and you could just turn down the resolution too.

ValSalva said:
This test is unfortunately meaningless until we know how fast the iPhone's processor is running. It wouldn't surprise me if the iPhone is slightly underclocked because of the vastly smaller battery than the giant iPhone's. Heat may also be a problem inside the smaller case of the iPhone which is another reason to run it at a slower clock speed.
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How is it irrelevant? If the iPhone is faster, it's faster. All clock speed tells you is how many less/more instructions the iPhone will perform per cycle.
 
But wait,
iPad is running 3.2 iPhone OS
and iPhone 4 is running 4.0 iOS
maybe when iOS arrives to iPad (w/ multitasking , etc.) iPad will be slower?
p.s
really dissapointed about iPads battery its ****ing 8 hours of wifi:(
 
kiljoy616 said:
Same here, and from what I have seen of the 3GS vs the 3G it was a big jump so the iphone 4 is going to be blazing fast for 3G users, at least for the first few weeks ;) after that we will wish we could over clock the sucker and put a turbo in it. :p
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I wonder how I will feel after I upgraded my iPhone 2G :)
 
doctoree said:
The reason I'm waiting at least for iPhone 5 is that the A4 in iPhone 4 has the trouble of dealing with the crazy Retina Display. This sucks away performance. Initially I hoped Apple may include its next chip, A5 into this handset. This issue is comparable to the current iMacs. While they have average GPUs as BTO they have CRAZY resolutions that kill the GPU...
Fortunately while these reolutions won't keep increasing much in the forseeable future the CPU und GPU performance will so this issue will become smaller and smaller in the next years.
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Lolololo, WTF do you think you're talking about? Ha!

Unreal, the garbage that makes it onto these boards. Pathetic.
 
doctoree said:
The reason I'm waiting at least for iPhone 5 is that the A4 in iPhone 4 has the trouble of dealing with the crazy Retina Display. This sucks away performance. Initially I hoped Apple may include its next chip, A5 into this handset. This issue is comparable to the current iMacs. While they have average GPUs as BTO they have CRAZY resolutions that kill the GPU...
Fortunately while these reolutions won't keep increasing much in the forseeable future the CPU und GPU performance will so this issue will become smaller and smaller in the next years.
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The A4 chip is not just a CPU, it's a whole "SYSTEM" on a chip. At the very simple level it's CPU+GPU+RAM [I know there is a lot more on it]. Because the components are on the same piece of silicon the CPU-RAM and GPU-RAM and CPU-GPU chat is rather fast, faster than if it had been an external GPU (as per traditional desktop/laptop model).

Because of where the RAM is, it is pretty much the same as having dedicated Video RAM, although the RAM in A4 is still "closer" to the GPU itself, so it doesn't even directly compare to the reduced performance of an "integrated gfx card" of old.

There is definitely no use lazily applying the desktop scenarios/pitfalls to the mobile and SoC models, because it just doesn't translate that well.
 
iPhone 4 is connected to power cable and 3GS is running low on battery and has Bluetooth enabled.

I guess it is a fair point to suggest that the test is not entirely scientific as they most definitely have not used two phone identically set up to benchmark.

Whether this would make any difference I don't know.
 
Don't know if this is of any relevance, but on my 3G, which barely plays any games smoothly, will stutter really badly when I hear the GSM buzz in my speakers. So I guess whenever the phone is talking to the cell tower momentarily, it will use up some CPU.

Maybe putting airplane mode on all devices for the benchmark will even it out more?
 
Does it make any difference if the phone is running on battery power or is plugged into the AC adapter? I had read that some processes are slowed in order to conserve battery life.
 
I still hope once Apple will come with their own desktop processor made by PAsemi engineers.. and I am ready once again to live through rosetta aimed transition process back to PowerPC architecture!

offtopic i know, but.. :) it's stronger than me :)
 
Running it later at 100% battery on the 3GS gave a score of 283. So similar.

arn
 
:rolleyes::rolleyes:

Oh good god, if it wasn't bad enough we have a bunch of moaners giving out about the 256mb iPad / 512mb iPhone 4

Now we have this kind of information about benchmarking all the new iPhone moaners will start to scream and shake their rattles alongside the iPad cry babies.


If it wasn't bad enough listening to the sound of the vuvuzela - now we have this here too :(

:rolleyes::rolleyes:









A bit of speculation.

Is it not possible that because Apple may have under-clocked the A4 processor in the iPhone 4 to say 800mhz - that in order to give it a boost without resulting in battery drain they increased the ram to 512mb.

Therefore giving overall similar performance to the iPad whilst maximizing iPhone 4 battery life. And this therefore is the reason why iPhone 4 has 512, and iPad 256mb......

Both have essentially same peformace with increased memory in one offsetting increased processor in the other ?
 
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