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India has 700+ million (and growing) total subscribers out 1.1 billion people, but still only about 20,000 iPhones were sold in the first eight months it was available.

Hundreds of millions of poor people with cheap cell phones do not equal an equivalent number of expensive smartphone + data plan buyers.

Agree completely. I live here and I'll say it again: the size of China's domestic market is way overblown. You have to factor in purchasing power along with population, and with 2/3 of Chinese still living in poverty, a mobile phone is a necessity, not a luxury. I think part of the misperception comes from the fact that most foreigners here live in major cities, and there is a disproportionate number of wealthy Chinese, not to mention Hong Kongers and Taiwanese running around, and it's easy to think that the average Zhou will be buying an iPhone. Outside the big cities, and especially in the western provinces, the situation is considerably grimmer.

Africa has over 1 billion people, and they've leapfrogged the standard landline infrastructure in a lot of cases, and gone straight to mobile communications. So why not get all hyped about the African iPhone market? Some African countries have a higher per capita GDP than China too. The projection is equally meaningless.

EDIT: Previous poster just mentioned Africa, beat me to it!
 
Har!

iOS4 and the design flaw in the new iPhone made me return the phone.

I couldn't commit myself to a 2 year contract, that I had to have a case for in order to possibly keep a phone call.

I returned my iPhone 4 (Steve Jobs, what the heck were you thinking with the that stupid antenna design? You are old, let the younger design and approve. Start giving to Charity and do 1 thing right in your personal life).

Enjoy the phone. I have every App, great call quality with my new Droid X on Verizon.

Enjoy my returned phone. It's FLAWED, BY DESIGN! (That's what I couldn't keep the phone).

Apple knew it was as design flaw in the antenna and millions of people are signing their souls to Apple because by design they are stupid.

Maybe this is the way of the world. Only the strong survive...

I use mine as a business phone and it works well. Enjoy your battery life!
 
well. have seen a lot of posts about the timing of when the iphones 2G 3G 3GS were available in China.
If you mean "officially", i dont know exactly.
But if you mean when those people in China have started using them, i can tell you its just about the the same as US users.
However, those were not officially sold iphones. So where were those phones come from?? US, EU, and HK, meaning those cell phone sellers bought those from the US and bring them back to China and resell them there. Or the end-users can simply buy those form ebay and do the international shipping.
 
Signal problem

I'm wondering if i should buy my iphone4 (in europe) before end of September to get free bumper.

Is there any news on the signal problem on the iphones sold in CHINA?

-- i.e. have Apple secretly done a hardware fix, meaning i should wait til Europe restocks???

Cheers.
BTW, my first time here - love the site :)
 
Glad to see a thread about China as i'm Chinese.
In my view, the user of Apple in china, especially the iphone user would grow significantly in the next few years. As you all says, few Chinese are interesting about Apple's product for mainly two reasons: First is the high price. Not every single family can afford 10000-20000 yuan for a laptop or 5000 yuan for a smart phone. In this case, we've got two choices to get an iPhone- directly buy it from apple store in 5000 yuan or sign a contact with China Union by a monthly pay for phone charge, what you also should know is the strange Chinese social system- China has the world's most public servant, and people who engaged in this job are usually get a regular allowance for telephone fee(in fact, many state-owned company workers have the same allowance too), as mentioned before, these people could use the allowance to get an iPhone from China Union totally free! What stop these people from getting an iPhone is the problem caused by change service to China Union which means they also need to change their phone number too, another reason is also the reason why most Chinese doesn't like Apple: the bad after sale service and language support, until this month, China has only four Apple Stores- two in Beijing and two in Shanghai, if you are in other cities, you can only looking for the service provider which could solve only few few cases. While turn to the language issue, i found it's a really special case - even apple has do a great job for Chinese support in both Mac os and iOS that doesn't means all the software developer do the same job, in a result, people are turning away from apple as they don't understand English and to many apple owner, they would contend that iXXX is useless as they know little about English, but it's a shame to acknowledge one can't do something like reading English in Chinese tradition, accordingly, they'd like to say apple is a beautiful hull but useless. The left few people are typically the upper class or people who receive a higher education. Gradually, Apple has become a symbol of rich or superior education in China, as the human basic instinct, many apple customers are actually buy an apple device to imply he or she is rich- they even never use Mac os in an iMac or mbp and most iPhone users can only follow some websites to do a jailbreak then download numbered apps from those webs. Whatever, as the progress of apple in Chinese marketing, apple would continually and more wildly satisfy our Chinese customer.
 
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