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LOL well played Apple.

Why dont they add that to the revolutionary spec list? "Hold your phone in your left hand and you'll be unable to make a call or browse the net!!"

Utter failures. :D
 
Guys at first I thought I did not have the problem, then I found out I had the problem. Then I figured out it only happens when in poor signal areas, then I did the reset network settings and it seemed like it fix the problem but NOPE! So now I am just another one of you guys. I'm calling Apple now. =-(
 
Settings
General
Reset
Reset Network Settings

This fix worked for me. My question is, did bad network settings get installed when I sync'd to my computer?

I will keep testing and report back if it didn't .. but I was really about to head back to AT&T tomorrow and give them the phone back until this was fixed.

I can't see how something like this would get past Apple...
 
This fix worked for me. My question is, did bad network settings get installed when I sync'd to my computer?

I will keep testing and report back if it didn't .. but I was really about to head back to AT&T tomorrow and give them the phone back until this was fixed.

I can't see how something like this would get past Apple...

this is a temporary fix my man. Wait a couple and it comes back.
 
Engineering....

Can someone actually prove they're an engineer and use a multimeter on the iPhone4 to check for impendence and/or short circuit issues?

I'm going to strap mine on before I go to the Apple Store....
 
Heat sensor?

It's a guess but when held to the face as talking, limiting signal strength would be a good thing? Doing so while held seems to confirm steves comment about a non/software issue. Would / could the phone be lowering its power on purpose?
 
Can someone actually prove they're an engineer and use a multimeter on the iPhone4 to check for impendence and/or short circuit issues?

I'm going to strap mine on before I go to the Apple Store....

You have a multimeter that measures RF propagation attenuation in the near to supra GHz bands?

I have a very good digital multimeter, and it only does volts, ohms and amps.
 
New Issue

I don't know exactly where to write this (admins feel free to move this somewhere else) but check this out. In the older iPhones you could put someone on speaker, play a song through iPod and you could talk to someone on speaker and you could hear the music coming out of the speakers and the other person could hear the song thats coming out of your speakers. With the iPhone 4 if you play a song while on speaker talking to someone they DO NOT hear the music no matter what (which is kool) BUT the music quality is AWFUL! Someone with an iPhone 4 check it out. Call someone, put your phone on speaker, play a song and see how AWFUL the quality is and also notice that the other person does not hear the music. It has to be the noise canceling mic. This sucks cause now you can't prank people would sound boards. =-\

Why on earth would I want to do that?
 
well I just came back from the AT&T store here in southern ca just to see what I've preordered. After reading all over the net about this antenna issue with the new iPhone I wanted to see if this was true. So I went to see for myself.

After seeing the new iPhone 4 "in black" I just have to say that it IS indeed true that the new iPhone is absolutely incredible to see in person. Only way to describe the new appearance is that its a fine piece of art work. Anyway after being in awe for a good while of the AT&T service person letting me compare this phone to my old dinasaur iphone 3g I was glad that I did preorder.

*but I didnt preorder thru AT&T ~ I preorderd a white 32g at BestBuy and listed as 3rd in line on the waiting list. Yeah I was there on the 15th to preorder.

Well back to the topic about the Signal/Antenna Issue.

I told the service that I'm going to run the test thats all over the net. with the gripping of the phone on the left side to see what happens.

The guy replied "Well its not gonna work because our signal strength is strong your standing right inside our building" I said id still like to see. He replied go for it and smiled.

So.... all I did was place the iphone in the palm of my right hand and place my left index finger over the left lower slit on the side of the iphone.

And the connection bars began to drop one by one slowly in less then eh... about almost 1minute. Then the phone completely lost connection.

The ATT sales person replied "How the heck did you do that?" I said you saw me all i did was place my finger over that left lower slit there. He then tried it and was laughing. The phone lost complete connection totally!

But I will say this. Even tho this happend? Its still not gonna stop me from waiting for the white 32 iPhone that ive preordered to purchase.

I hope that Steve Jobs and Team do look into this problem with the new phone. Seriously please if anyone from Apple is reading this it really is true about that lower left slit in the new iphone.

All it took was just placing the tip of my finger to that slit and then connection droped right there in the store.

Anyway that new iPhone is indeed incredible to see. And the quality of the screen is just truely incredibly outstanding. I couldnt believe it. And the sales guy demo'd the face to face chat and movie thing for me as well. I was just amazed. So smooth and soo well polished and omg so responsive and fast/quick between switching apps, music whatever. I was definately sold. And here I was just about to cancel my preorder due to this antenna issue.

I hope they fix this. I really do. If Apple doesnt?? Then I"ll prob make a video myself just repeating the same thing all over again and put it up on youtube once my new iPhone arrives. I'll repeat just placing the tip of my index finger right over that small lower slit/section on the phone just so ppl can see that its not the grip but the phone itself.

But Mr. Jobs? You guys did really did create a really outstanding impressive fine piece of art of a device truely. Just please fix taht small section on the new iPhones for us. Afterall ...... its supposed to be a Phone before anything else.
 
I hope they fix this. I really do. If Apple doesnt?? Then I"ll prob make a video myself just repeating the same thing all over again and put it up on youtube once my new iPhone arrives. I'll repeat just placing the tip of my index finger right over that small lower slit/section on the phone just so ppl can see that its not the grip but the phone itself.

But Mr. Jobs? You guys did really did create a really outstanding impressive fine piece of art of a device truely. Just please fix taht small section on the new iPhones for us. Afterall ...... its supposed to be a Phone before anything else.

Apparently, an early batch had shipped without the necessary non-conductive coating, which solves the problem.

Anyone who received a phone without the coating will be able to swap it for one that does.
 
Apparently, an early batch had shipped without the necessary non-conductive coating, which solves the problem.

Anyone who received a phone without the coating will be able to swap it for one that does.

Did someone else hear this from Apple technical support or any other source?

I really hope this is the cause and swapping my iPhone for a later batch fixes the issue.
 
Did someone else hear this from Apple technical support or any other source?

I really hope this is the cause and swapping my iPhone for a later batch fixes the issue.

Yes.

Saam G

Update on the reception issue from my buddy who has been hitting his head against the wall:

Got off the phone with Apple. They're sending me a new one overnight. They said they're aware of the issue, and it has something to do with a missing protective coating on some of the parts....

BTW, Apple has amazing support. Friendly, knowledgeable, professional. They really do take care of you. Every time, in my experience.
 
Did someone else hear this from Apple technical support or any other source?

I really hope this is the cause and swapping my iPhone for a later batch fixes the issue.

Yes, that quote was from another user on the forum.

You're responding to what someone on this forum said, that does not qualify as apple technical support or any other source...he is asking if anyone else actually called into technical support and heard it from a reputable source...
 
You're responding to what someone on this forum said, that does not qualify as apple technical support or any other source...he is asking if anyone else actually called into technical support and heard it from a reputable source...

He asked, "Did someone else hear this from Apple technical support or any other source?"

Someone else did, and the question was answered.
 
He asked, "Did someone else hear this from Apple technical support or any other source?"

Someone else did, and the question was answered.

1. someone on this forum said they heard that.

2. someone else asked, "did anyone else hear that from a different source?"

3. you said that you did but you really just heard it from the original poster.

please explain how that is a different source?
 
no-one seems to be addressing the question of how far I need to hold my new iPhone from my tin-foil hat in order to reduce interference?

Holding the phone 3.6 mm from your ear and tilting your head 37 degrees off vertical can help. This also helps reduce the number of ear mites that migrate into the earphone and munch the delicate electronics. However it is thought that ear mites have developed new strains that can jump this gap. These larger, stronger mites are hungrier and can do much more damage. Only known cure for this is to cover the earphone slot with duct tape.
 

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1. someone on this forum said they heard that.

2. someone else asked, "did anyone else hear that from a different source?"

3. you said that you did but you really just heard it from the original poster.

please explain how that is a different source?

Idea: Why don't YOU call Apple technical support yourself and ask them directly about this if you're going to be such a whiny b. about it. :rolleyes:
 
uh oh

I thought this oddly appropriate in a nonsequitor sort of way.

Someone with talent may want to redo before it meme's it's way around.
 

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