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iPhone 4 Surfaces in Czech Republic With Back Camera Photo and Video Samples

stingerman said:
Here is a link to my iMove 09 adjusted version mentioned earlier. In my opinion the "cleaned" version is much much nicer.
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It does look nicer, but sadly your processing has also really highlighted the rolling shutter distortion, especially when the pan reverses at about 0:06. One day we'll have a "cheap" camera technology which doesn't suffer from this. That day is not here yet, it seems... :(
 
Photo quality is awful!! Dynamic range on all of 'em is very very low. Too much noise at full resolution, has chromatic aberration, barrel distortion, ghosts, over-saturated in some places, washed out in others, exposure levels seem off. Ugh.

Nah, I'm going back to my Nikon D3S. Thanks.
 
simoneves said:
It does look nicer, but sadly your processing has also really highlighted the rolling shutter distortion, especially when the pan reverses at about 0:06. One day we'll have a "cheap" camera technology which doesn't suffer from this. That day is not here yet, it seems... :(
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Too many variables to know where to point the blame: beta software, user not panning smoothly, conversion issues, etc. I didn't spend any time analyzing the files. I am mostly excited about the nice data rate, which to me is even more important than the resolution.

Now I am trying to find out if they are using 4:2:2 or 4:2:0. Overall, this is very nice quality coming from a device this size. I'd say Cisco should be worried as well as makers of consumer mini video cameras. It also is exciting in the headroom that is still available since the sensor is capable of 720P60 as well as some other nice features not seemingly exposed yet.
 
PBF said:
Photo quality is awful!! Dynamic range on all of 'em is very very low. Too much noise at full resolution, has chromatic aberration, barrel distortion, ghosts, over-saturated in some places, washed out in others, exposure levels seem off. Ugh.

Nah, I'm going back to my Nikon D3S. Thanks.
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LOL, D3S or iPhone 4?!
 
PBF said:
Photo quality is awful!! Dynamic range on all of 'em is very very low. Too much noise at full resolution, has chromatic aberration, barrel distortion, ghosts, over-saturated in some places, washed out in others, exposure levels seem off. Ugh.

Nah, I'm going back to my Nikon D3S. Thanks.
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And I'll stick to my Canon 5D.

Are you really trying to compare the iPhone 4 to a DSLR? :rolleyes:
What do you expect with a lens/sensor of that size?
 
Access to RAW on iPhone 4

WWDC 2010 video says public API allows access to uncompressed 5MP images to developers! Too, many low level camera features exposed, Apple encouraging AR apps.
 
You've gotta love all these photo snobs on here, badmouthing the iPhone 4's picture quality, just so they can brag about how they are "going back" to their $500 to $1000 standalone cameras because the photos aren't up to snub. Uh, it doesn't take a genius to have figured out that most standalone cameras that cost $500 or more, are gonna be better.
 
Sean4123 said:
You've gotta love all these photo snobs on here, badmouthing the iPhone 4's picture quality, just so they can brag about how they are "going back" to their $500 to $1000 standalone cameras because the photos aren't up to snub. Uh, it doesn't take a genius to have figured out that most standalone cameras that cost $500 or more, are gonna be better.
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Bound to find these in the Apple crowd, I suppose, considering the premium Apple products they are precious about. While I won't say that the iPhone is just a phone, there ought to be some sensibility to expectations when it comes to the image quality in a camera phone. My work is one part of the film industry, so my expectation of image quality in the iPhone 4 (not a standalone camera) has been humbled by what my industry mostly expects.

Sure, the camera quality in phones is bound to improve and with this trend, expectations will always go higher, and this in turn helps products to improve. I'm just glad it is improving in the right manner with the iPhone 4 – sensibly good quality that is in delicate balance with other aspects of the product. Just because we have rocket engines that can propel to space doesn't mean we should fit them into every car, as if that is not obvious enough! ;)

For myself, I think it has gotten to a very nice base point with the iPhone 4, because I know that the worst image quality I'd end up with is not going to be atrocious. It'd beat my current phone for sure. If I know beforehand that some photos would be nice for keeps, I'd bring my fun Canon G9 along (I'm just an occasional curious snapper). Else, the iPhone 4 is not bad at all when it is the only camera with me. :)

Let's see what happens when the iPhone 4 is in our hands. Still early to say yet really.
 
skyehill said:
Hmmmm, I stated the EVO takes great pictures in ideal light and awful pictures in bad lighting. Yeah, I can see where that would be misconstrued as being an EVO fanboy. You're a bright one.

And as for that video. Ouch. Great colors, but awful, jittery panning, just like in the official Apple video. Won't be replacing my cheap Flip HD.
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You're right, he is bright. He was able to spot your fanboyism under that imaginary defense of "I'm not a fanboy, look I mentioned one negative point, there's no way a fanboy would do that."

Your attitude speaks much more about you than anything else. You're a fanboy. A really obnoxious and snobby one.
 
PBF said:
Photo quality is awful!! Dynamic range on all of 'em is very very low. Too much noise at full resolution, has chromatic aberration, barrel distortion, ghosts, over-saturated in some places, washed out in others, exposure levels seem off. Ugh.

Nah, I'm going back to my Nikon D3S. Thanks.
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Wow. You really deserve to get slapped. You're actually trying to compare image quality from a tiny phone lens to a DSLR. Just wow.
 
Food for thought. This came from my Lg Dare. Yea, the grass one is ****ing amazing to me. I also got a panorama of grass with the same quality.
 

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Ohh and here are some pics taken with the Evo's brother the Incredible. You know the one with the same camera.
 

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Why is everyone so concerned about the camera/video stuff? the quality will never come close to what one can get with a real camera or HD cam.
 
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Lord Vader said:
Supraman21 said:
Ohh and here are some pics taken with the Evo's brother the Incredible. You know the one with the same camera.
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Android troll?
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He also posted LG dare pictures, does that make him an LG troll too?
 
ChazUK said:
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He also posted LG dare pictures, does that make him an LG troll too?
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It makes him Apple hater? Some dude appears and posts some pictures trying to prove what? I don't understand what's the fuss about. iPhone 4, Evo and etc. all have quite good cameras.
 
All threads in this section end up the exact same, with people bickering over things they had no hand in creating, but merely purchased.
 
PBF said:
Photo quality is awful!! Dynamic range on all of 'em is very very low. Too much noise at full resolution, has chromatic aberration, barrel distortion, ghosts, over-saturated in some places, washed out in others, exposure levels seem off. Ugh.

Nah, I'm going back to my Nikon D3S. Thanks.
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And your point is ? Are you here just to let us know you own a D3S ?
 
LOL at the arguments about vid/pic quality. It's a phone camera people! It won't rival a DSLR in any circumstance. You just can't get the same quality from a tiny lens and sensor that you can from full size lenses - especially for the price.

If people are that anal about the images/vids they capture then use a real camera. Personally, I think the quality is more than adequate (leaps and bounds above my 3G camera) for grabbing images/vids on the go when I may not have my DSLR or P&S handy.
 
skyehill said:
Yeah, but only if you zoom in on them a ton ;)

I gotta be honest, pics look damn good on my Touch and my wife's iPhone, as does text. But then again I don't view my devices from 5 centimeters away. The new resolutions we're going to be seeing on all phones is just marketing crap. But what really sucks is Apple waited to do this on the useless iPhone's small screen instead of doing it on the one screen that could have used it - the iPad. But now you know exactly how they're going to pitch next year's iPad.
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Are you kidding me? You're seriously using the size of the phone's screen to argue that photo and video resolutions are pointless.


Hmmm... How can I explain this to someone who is obviously very mentally challenged.



Ok, There's this white thing that looks like a string, and this white thing sticks to a phone and a computer. Follow me? Good.

Now this white string moves your pictures and moving pictures from your phone to your computer. Your computer has a bigger screen.


Now resolution is important. Yayyy!!
 
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