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iPhone 4 vs. Blackberry Torch

Folks there will always be room for competition.

There will be people who want a physical keyboard. Lets face it, BB makes awesome physical keyboards.

I personally own both BB Bold 9700 and iPhone 4. I carry the BB Bold 9700 with Tmobile and iPhone 4 with ATT.

The Torch is RIM's way of hedging their bets. They are giving people both touchscreen and keyboard options. RIM needed to do this to stay in the game. And they will.

Lots of business users like me won't be giving up your BB for a while.
 
Ryan1524 said:
Yes, but that doesn't mean it's 'better'. Many of those asian countries, one of which I'm intimately familiar, are nuts about BBM because it's practically free, unlimited, and well organized text chats.

It's not that BBM is superior, it's because those worlds are not where we are yet. While we're pushing 3D Home Cinema streamed from the clouds, they're still impressed by 1080p and Blu-ray (or blu-ray rips).

The reason it's exploding is because population count IS much larger in many of these worlds, so statistically, it looks impressive. But these people use little more than the phone and BBM. Many don't even have data beyond the BB access.
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RIght and I'm not saying Blackberry is superior in general. I only have 1 blackberry in my life and I can't say I'm very impressed with that. However, I do believe this new Blackberry is enough to keep BB users from jumping ship altogether. Especially those enterprises....

Will it appeal to many iPhone users?? Probably not...

And also, what you're saying is true that the more people using it doesn't mean it's better but personally, when 80-90% of my friends are using the BBM platform, it's quite tempting for me to get one too just as a second phone ;) It's all relative heh
 
Matth345 said:
front facing camera = revolutionary? Maybe 5 years ago
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Reading comprehension? I said the combination of the retina display COMBINED with the WIDESPREAD use of a front facing camera made the phone revolutionary. There are also a bunch of other enhancements which I didn't even mention.
 
I agree, it's at least an interesting phone. I can't pass judgement without trying it, holding it, etc. But from my experience being and with BB users, this should be enough to keep a majority of them. But there will be many who want more and jump to the other side.
 
Does not look that interesting but I have never liked any BB. I have many family members that use BB's so I'm sure one of them will get the Torch soon and I will try it out.
 
I've been a BB user for the last 4 years and just made the switch to an iPhone 4. Besides email capabilities, the iPhone has been a complete breath of fresh air in aesthetics, media capabilities, speed, and just all-around usability. Blackberry would need to come out with something absolutely ground breaking to ever make me consider switching back.

Engadget's hands on with the torch just makes my skin crawl. @ 3:07 the display just turns off while he's typing, and there is so much convoluted crap on the screen it's insane.

http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/03/blackberry-torch-first-hands-on/
 
rwilliams said:
How do you compare two phones when no one here has ever held or used one of them?
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It's not comparing them it's discussing how the two stack up based on what you've seen and heard. How do the specs compare, how does the design look, how does the new OS look etc.
 
I'm underwhelmed but then it looks like the same old blackberry and I can't see how this will attract users from the iPhone/android platforms.

They chose a low resolution, small screen, slow processor and cramped physical keyboard. The only thing they seemed to get right was the storage.
 
The fact that Blackberry OS 6 doesn't suck (at least it doesn't look like it sucks) is HUGE. Hands down, Blackberry makes the most robust, sturdy phones on the market (except for the old Nokias, maybe).

Besides having a pretty good lock on the business market, there are a lot of people who are just fine with the messaging/email/media capabilities of blackberry phones.

It is a solid platform, and there is very little need to unlock or 'jailbreak' blackberry devices because they usually put similar models of all their phones on all available carriers.

The Torch slider looks pretty decent in the photos. RIM is a contender again. The fact that AT&T is launching OS6, will launch Windows Mobile 7, and is selling high end Android devices should not be dismissed.

I predict iPhone exclusivity ending within a year. Apple will wither and eventually be marginalized against 3 mature, competitive smart phone operating systems if they stay locked onto AT&T
 
maflynn said:
The same thing can be said for the iPhone 4.
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Except the iPhone 4 has facetime. if developed and distributed properly, facetime could prove to be the standard for mobile teleconferencing.

Granted, it may never prove to be more than a gimmick, but it has potential. it doesn't look like the torch has anything even potentially revolutionary.

And as the other poster pointed out, there's always the retina display...

so, yes, the same could be said for the iphone 4. Then again, people can say whatever the want, regardless of being able to back it up...
 
iPhone 4 wins. The only thing Blackberries have besides great email is BBM and that's pretty much a gimmick. What makes it any different from AIM, Yahoo Messenger or GTalk besides the delivery notifications?
 
It is a Blackberry. While it looks pretty nice, I wouldn't give up my iPhone 4 for it. But, if it meets your needs, then I wouldn't criticize someone who chose that instead of an iPhone.
 
LOL! The Torch doesn't belong in the same category has the iPhone 4. A fair comparison would be the 2008 (iPhone 3G) to the Blackberry Torch. The new Blackberry is slow from the Crackberry videos I just saw.
 
is video calling something new in America a lot of people seem to be getting very excited about facetime, in the uk we've had video calling for about 5plus years and cross network?
on the two phones i like the iphone 4 not a fan of sliders but do like the way blackberry's deal with the messaging side of things , but like the way the iphone is a mulitmedia device
horses for course depends what you need most out of your phone.
 
slattery69 said:
is video calling something new in America a lot of people seem to be getting very excited about facetime, in the uk we've had video calling for about 5plus years and cross network?
on the two phones i like the iphone 4 not a fan of sliders but do like the way blackberry's deal with the messaging side of things , but like the way the iphone is a mulitmedia device
horses for course depends what you need most out of your phone.
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If you've had video calling for 5plus years and it hasn't made its way out of Europe, it hasn't exactly been a rousing success.

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2364801,00.asp
 
southernpaws said:
If you've had video calling for 5plus years and it hasn't made its way out of Europe, it hasn't exactly been a rousing success.

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2364801,00.asp
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it hasn't been a success at all not from a quality point of view but from people just never liked it point.
im sure my first video call phone was the sony ericsson k800 i tried it once its not something that people ever really got into in the uk for whatever reason
sample vid i found on the net of a k800 vid call from 2006
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VP19WoVBeU4
 
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