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1 battery VS 2 batteries

The notions that have been floated here about it being one physical battery with two virtual partitions is an interesting idea. And this would be one of those "what is Apple going to think of next" kind of innovations.

And this way you could call your significant other and say, "honey, can you bring me my phone charger?". :D
 
Perhaps they could come up with a way to "partition" the phones battery? That way the phone wont allow you to use your mp3 player if the battery drains to a certain ammount.
 
Perhaps they could come up with a way to "partition" the phones battery? That way the phone wont allow you to use your mp3 player if the battery drains to a certain ammount.

that's the general idea I was proposing, although I was thinking it would be more dynamic than "partition" usually implies. since this is apple, I was thinking it would be super powerful and intuitive. so for example, it's 8am and you're leaving for work, you know you'll get home around midnight, you tell your iPhone you want enough battery power to be able to receive calls until midnight. around 2pm, it cuts off the music player because listening to more music would prevent you from reaching midnight before powering down. and of course, the iPhone knows your typical usage patterns, and adjusts as necessary.
 
Perhaps they could come up with a way to "partition" the phones battery? That way the phone wont allow you to use your mp3 player if the battery drains to a certain ammount.

I could see something like the slider used in .mac accounts for choosing space between iDisk and email storage.

Or how about something that when the total battery charge is down to 10-15%, it will only operate the cell phone portion. And make it so when converting to cell-phone only you have 18 hours of standby and 1 hour of talk time remaining. Yeah, I like this notion better than allowing the cell portion to be dead and you can still crank up the U2.

That reminds me, do y'all think there also be special edition iPhones? What are you idea's for the wackiest versions?
 
I don't think Apple is going to want to leave out half the US market, however important the rest of the world is to them. They may be making questionable business decisions with this venture, but this isn't going to be one of them.

UMTS would add significantly to the cost, I'd leave it out of the GSM version unless I wanted to add a third, more expensive, model to the range. Quadband GSM/EDGE will be more than enough right now, until the prices of UMTS hardware plummet anyway.

I'm not sure if Apple will actually come out with a CDMA version.

But I'm relatively CERTAIN that at least the larger "PDA" mode will be available for GSM/UMTS. Just because it adds to the cost doesn't mean it's cost-prohibitie. For example, Cingular offers phones ranging from the LG CU400 (full retail price of just $229, with contract, etc. it's just $29), to the new Samsung Blackjack (full retail price of $449, with contract, etc. it's just $199).

So if Samsung can offer a full-featured 3G PDA phone for $449, why can't Apple release a competing PDA phone? And LG's CU400 and CU500 3G phones sell for $229 and $299, why can't apple release a competing "basic" 3G phone in the same price range ("basic" being relative, of course).

I hope that the "PDA" iPhone is available for the same pricing structure as the Samsung Blackjack. I'd definitely sign up with whatever company is offering the PDA iPhone for $199 with 2-year contract (hopefully T-Mobile since I already have it, but I will make the switch to Cingular if necessary).
 
what about airplanes?

the thought of an iPhone is such a tantalizing prospect it makes me want to purchase a ton more apple stock than I can afford.

but my one question concerns use during flights. As of right now, we are not allowed to have cell phones on during flight. If the iPod is integrated into the phone, then wouldn't the ipod be unusable in-flight?

I'm sure apple has thought of a way around this (i.e. have on only ipod at times, or only phone at times), but this does leave some doubts about the unlimited usage of this device.

But hey, I want one now. So, we will figure this out later. Give me my iPhone:D
 
I know i'm probably going against the grain here, but i'd be more than happy if Apple just made a simple PHONE that looked sexy as hell, had a decent GUI and had a battery that lastest a fair bit.

You can keep your crappy cameras, web browsers, music players, bluetooth, qwerty keyboard etc. They all detract from what really matters to me: sexyness.

I know it won't revolutionize the market, but i'd buy one. :cool:
 
but my one question concerns use during flights. As of right now, we are not allowed to have cell phones on during flight. If the iPod is integrated into the phone, then wouldn't the ipod be unusable in-flight?

My iPod is the only thing that keeps me sane when flying, so it would be a major bummer if the iPhone wouldn't be usable on flights. I'd keep my current nano just for this reason and bring it along with me just in case.
 
I know i'm probably going against the grain here, but i'd be more than happy if Apple just made a simple PHONE that looked sexy as hell, had a decent GUI and had a battery that lastest a fair bit.

You can keep your crappy cameras, web browsers, music players, bluetooth, qwerty keyboard etc. They all detract from what really matters to me: sexyness.

I know it won't revolutionize the market, but i'd buy one. :cool:

i agree, stop making swiss army knife's and make a simple pretty cellphone
 
2 batteries

Hi All,

IMHO the reason for the 2 batteries is that Apple may consider to make the phone as an add-on to iPod. A clip-on to be exact. why? defense of iPod.

1) the iPod brand is very valuable. entering a new market that happens to be quite crowded is an excellent way to mess up, dragging down an excellent brand;
2) it is the best interest of Apple to not allow the phone and music players to merge. or at least to make it clear that it's best to have iPod plus a phone instead of a do-it-all device.
3) people have been spending a lot of money (per megabyte of storage) on their iPods. If suddently Apple shows up with a phone with iPod and prices it according to what they need to in the music-phone market, they'll be telling the market that a stand-alone iPod is a bad deal.

So, what I think the iPhone will be ... probably a clamshell that fits the iPod nano on its back. Its main feature will be iSync, which is something that other mobile phone manufacturers have been struggling to get right: each of them forces the user to add another stupid icon and proprietary sync application to the Windows XP notification area. They all sync with MS Outlook and that's pretty much it. All that iPhone needs is to be white, to iSync and a distinctive way to snap in the iPod Nano. I'm 99% that I'l get right at least one of these 3 :D
 
Need to know the process of submitting this idea

I submitted this idea over a year ago to apple. Does anyone know the process, if there is one, about compensation for the idea? let me know
 
but my one question concerns use during flights. As of right now, we are not allowed to have cell phones on during flight. If the iPod is integrated into the phone, then wouldn't the ipod be unusable in-flight?
Have an option to only have the iPod function running, and no cell phone functionality running, like every other proper cell phone out there?
 
iPhone

Having read what people expect from this 'phone, it wouldn't be out of place in a James Bond movie! Considering this is the first 'phone Apple has developed (if it's true), do you think they will get it right the first time and have even a fraction of all the features people expect from it? Also, can they really steal the market quite a quickly as people think it will?

I have been holding off getting a new 'phone for years just because of this iPhone, so it better be here soon! My old 'phone isn't going to last much longer! I'm not looking for anything fancy: takes/receives call and does SMS. I know I can get any 'phone that can do that, but I'm a sucker for Apple products ;)

Also, I hope there is an option of buying the 'phone unlocked. Orange takes ages to bring in a new model and they will most likely block some features out (like iTunes from Motorola's V3i).
 
My iPod is the only thing that keeps me sane when flying, so it would be a major bummer if the iPhone wouldn't be usable on flights. I'd keep my current nano just for this reason and bring it along with me just in case.

The SE Walkman phones, at least my W810i, have a boot menu to choose Walkman-only or full phone mode. Too band the Walkman on it sucks. :D
 
Wow. Maybe I should do the lottery now.

Back in September, (the 15th to be precise) in response to a message on a thread called "Would an iPhone eat the nano?" that an iPhone with music capability would eat up the batteries and therefore a dedicated phone and iPod was better, I said the following:

"You know, I do wonder whether they could have a unit with two batteries of some kind, one dedicated to the phone and one for the mp3 player....dont know, maybe it's a crazy idea..."

So yes, this is my "smug mode", but it was quite a pleasant surprise that an idle thought has suddenly been mirrored in a rumour.

Whether it actually happens of course is another matter...
Vanilla
 
As much as I would like to replace my old Verizon phone, I can't bring myself to do it. I know deep down in my heart that the iPhone probably won't be compatible, but I'm going to hold out hope until MWSF.
 
You're Kidding right?

I submitted this idea over a year ago to apple. Does anyone know the process, if there is one, about compensation for the idea? let me know

From http://www.apple.com/legal/terms/site.html

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Feedback and Information
Any feedback you provide at this site shall be deemed to be non-confidential. Apple shall be free to use such information on an unrestricted basis.

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Having read what people expect from this 'phone, it wouldn't be out of place in a James Bond movie! Considering this is the first 'phone Apple has developed (if it's true), do you think they will get it right the first time and have even a fraction of all the features people expect from it? Also, can they really steal the market quite a quickly as people think it will?

rumors are fun. ive been reading these forums for a long time and only recently have begun posting again. i enjoy thinking of what could/might be.

but where rumors can be unfun...when expectations are based on these rumors and, even worse, based on peoples expressed desires on a rumored, unreleased product...then when the product finally does hit, it doesnt have any of the features that we all cry for but never enen made it to the rumor stage.

i.e.
rumor=apple is working on a phone and will likely release early 07

expressed desires=
smart phone
touch screen
lots of memory for songs
etc.

expectation=smartphone/pda/ipod/tablet definately released at mw 07

the rumor is great. its fun to talk about desired features. but when the expressed desires become expectation, we all whine about how crappy the product is when it's finally released.

~kyle
 
I submitted this idea over a year ago to apple. Does anyone know the process, if there is one, about compensation for the idea? let me know

Good luck with that. Let us know how it goes:D

check here- http://www.apple.com/legal/policies/ideas.html

or just read this-

Apple's Unsolicited Idea Submission Policy

Apple or any of its employees do not accept or consider unsolicited ideas, including ideas for new advertising campaigns, new promotions, new or improved products or technologies, product enhancements, processes, materials, marketing plans or new product names. Please do not send any original creative artwork, suggestions or other works. The sole purpose of this policy is to avoid potential misunderstandings or disputes when Apple's products or marketing strategies might seem similar to ideas submitted to Apple. So, please do not send your unsolicited ideas to Apple or anyone at Apple. If, despite our request that you not send us your ideas, you still send them, then regardless of what your letter says, the following terms shall apply to your idea submission.

TERMS OF IDEA SUBMISSION
You agree that: (1) your ideas will automatically become the property of Apple, without compensation to you, and (2) Apple can use the ideas for any purpose and in any way, even give them to others.

PRODUCT FEEDBACK
Apple does, however, welcome your feedback regarding many areas of Apple's existing business. If you want to send us your feedback, and we hope you do, we simply request that you send it to us using the form found at http://www.apple.com/contact, or you can choose from the many other listed areas for your feedback. Please provide only specific feedback on Apple's existing products or marketing strategies; do not include any ideas that Apple's policy will not permit it to accept or consider. It's just one more way that Apple can learn how to best satisfy your needs.

Feedback and Information
Any feedback you provide at this site shall be deemed to be non-confidential. Apple shall be free to use such information on an unrestricted basis.
 
a wi-fi phone would be horribly limiting. Cell phones can be sold worldwide - only select areas have broad wireless access.
Yeah, a wi-fi phone would have a different market. I'd use it at home as a cordless, and maybe take it to work.

BUT - maybe it would go further than home/work. If it ever happened, I would happily buy an Apple "Wifi" account that roams my laptop or iPhone to various hotspot providers nationwide (as long as there's no minimum spend - I don't know how much I'd use it). And I'd let Apple piggyback on my Airport for any other Apple Wif-iPhone users (and give me a Wifi credit at the same time).

i was gonna get a nano for christmas but i think i am going to wait for the iPhone.
Never buy an Apple product for Christmas. I've told my fiance and parents not to. If they wish, they can get me a gift voucher for the local Apple centre which I'll use early January (after MWSF).
 
i agree, stop making swiss army knife's and make a simple pretty cellphone

I disagree. What I want from Apple is simple phone/iPod integration. I will NOT buy a phone just because it's Apple. There are PLENTY of great phone choices out there. My Sony Ericsson is tiny, great looking, and has the best interface I have seen on a phone. I rarely use the phone or Music features and largely just use it to call and text message.

That being said the ONE thing I want from apple is iPod/phone integration. There are only 3 things that I will take with me at ALL times: my phone, my keys, and my wallet. I will NOT always remember to take my iPod with me. So what I want is simple, I want my iPod to be part of my phone so that my iPod is always with me. Ditto for a camera and PDA. I want *every* major electronic gadget to be rolled into my phone for the simple reason that that is the ONE device I always have with me. I will leave to Apple to devise an elegant interface to make it user-friendly.

P.S. my Sony Ericsson completely nailed the optimal phone/camera integration. Open the lens cover, and the phone becomes a little digital camera. Close the lens cover, and it's back to being a phone. Likewise, I would expect Apple to provide *the* ideal phone/music player combination.
 
betting on the iPhone

I placed a $50 wager today online that apple will announce the iPhone at macworld in january. it's paying two to one. that means if apple anounces the iPhone at macworld, I'll have an extra hundred bucks to help afford buying one! (of course if they don't announce it, I'll be out $50. boo.)

happy to share the info if anyone wants it, e-mail or message me...
 
Does anyone know of a phone/provider that allows voicemail to be stored in the phone, not through dial-up with frustrating & slow menus? A nice interface & instant access to any message would be a huge improvement.
Most phones allow multimedia messages to be sent and received. So they could certainly be sent a voicemail rather than force you to ring them. The message title could also include the senders phone number.

I don't know of any providers who do that.
The two batteries makes a whole lot of sense. I always seem to be running my ipod till it dies. It would be nice to know that the phone portion has its own battery too keep me in touch when the 'ipod' goes out.
Not sure if anyone has said this (still catching up)... but is it possible Apple will have 2 "virtual" batteries. ie: As a user you THINK it's 2 batteries, but it's really one. Then, as someone recently said, you could adjust the size of each with a slide rule, or select "use music battery" if your phone went dead, or something similar.
 
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