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iPhone 4GB and 8GB, Coming in January?

spicyapple said:
Apple's iPhone patent, http://www.myiphone.com/apple-iphone-patent-3068.php

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That mock up is interesting, but I don't see how one would be able to add two batteries to it.

dscottbuch said:
Wish I could sell that kind of poo:confused:

8GB non is 20th on the Amazon electronics:) :)

Maybe its Best Buy clientel that don't get it :D :D
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I'm still trying to wrap my head around a Best Buy employee being a source of information. I remember going there once and having to lecture the employee about WiFi when he tried to talk to me about 802.11h.
 
joeshell383 said:
What an ignorant comment. The U.S., obviously, is key to Apple. Ignoring the majority of cell subscribers here would not be smart. My guess is a CDMA version and a GSM version, nothing new. Most phone manufacturers make two versions of U.S. phones.
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I'm curious as to why you say this? Currently there are something like two and a half billion mobile phone customers in the world, and the majority of them are on GSM handsets. A combined GSM/UMTS handset would be perfect for the rest of the world, which is currently adding more subscribers per year than the entire population of the USA. 3G UMTS is a niche market for high-end customers, and even that grew by about 40 million last year. If you are designing a mobile phone, the US CDMA market is a small niche, not something you aim for as a whole.
 
After having many, many phones, now; I think my number 1 feature request would be a zippy UI. I love Nokia phones, but switching from menu to menu is just far too sluggish.

It should be interesting too to see how they try to integrate the phone with the Mac, apart from iSync and Address Book, probably (3G?) Internet access for notebooks, might they include remote control functionality in the iPhone?
 
I'm ready and waiting...

I've got my birthday money in the bank just waiting for the next Apple doo-dad to come out. Will I buy a phone, an iTV or 6G iPod. Hmmm, decisions, decisions...

To be honest, I do not need a phone that will play music, I have an iPod mini for running and a 4G iPod Photo for my entire catalog already. I just want a phone that WORKS! And give me excellent syncing of addressbook and calendar and I'll be very happy!
 
can't wait

this is great news. I'm in need of a new phone, and allowing me to carry two things in one device is awesome.

I realize that people want the great features (i.e. internet, awesome camera), but if this is supposed to work simply as a phone and an iPod, then i don't see the need for that.

Just a good UI and good playback.

Let's just hope it's true!
 
Squonk said:
To be honest, I do not need a phone that will play music, I have an iPod mini for running and a 4G iPod Photo for my entire catalog already. I just want a phone that WORKS! And give me excellent syncing of addressbook and calendar and I'll be very happy!
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I second your motion, offer contributions to your campaign, and endorse your platform.
 
The battery in my RAZR is fairly small and provides about a week and a half of stand-by power. But the model is 2-3 years old? I'm positive Apple could come up with some amazing power management and micro circuitry to bring together the next-gen of cell phone design.

Sorry about the mock-up posted. It was separate from the patent link. :)

luv ya bunches! xoxoxo
 
Not a weird time

nukiduz said:
doesn't january sound a weird month to release a big thing like this one? everyone's broke in january...
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I seem to remember that the first round of Intel Macs were released in January. Please someone correct me if I am wrong. They release in January, products don't hit the shelves at a steady pace for a month or two.....right when people get their federal tax returns.
 
Two things here really break the credibility for me:

-The two batteries thing sounds like the absolute worst kind of convergence possible. It's like saying "we literally glued an iPod and a phone together". It sounds clunky and unlike anything Apple would ever do. Heck, no Apple products have ever even had removable batteries.

-It's not out for Christmas. Sounds like a dumb move.
 
Latisha said:
Two things here really break the credibility for me:

-The two batteries thing sounds like the absolute worst kind of convergence possible. It's like saying "we literally glued an iPod and a phone together". It sounds clunky and unlike anything Apple would ever do. Heck, no Apple products have ever even had removable batteries.

-It's not out for Christmas. Sounds like a dumb move.
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My guess is that if there are two batteries, they'll still be in the one 'package', so unless you'd read the manual you might never know there would be two in there.

I don't think it's that surprising that this looks likely to launch after Christmas - Apple has been releasing products for years at Macworld in January, missing the Christmas season. I'd assume the argument is - Apple products will sell well in the Christmas period without any 'help'; the product launch in January would kick-start sales for the slow quarter in the New Year; plus any January launch wouldn't be drowned out by all the pre-Christmas marketing period.
 
EricNau said:
...but I must admit, I'm never been in an area where Cingular had coverage and Verizon didn't...
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I have. :p UCSC.

rtharper said:
Two batteries ensures that you could never run down the battery using the iPod inadvertently.
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That was one of my first thoughts; "If I replaced my Nano w/ this thing, I'd totally run down the battery in no time." And yet didn't think of how the dual battery system could come in handy. Uh dur. I feel lame. :eek:
 
devilot said:
I have. :p UCSC.

That was one of my first thoughts; "If I replaced my Nano w/ this thing, I'd totally run down the battery in no time." And yet didn't think of how the dual battery system could come in handy. Uh dur. I feel lame. :eek:
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Funny thing is, I have no interest with the iPod functions rumored with this phone. Im just hoping for good design and functionality.
 
virtual dual battery?

everyone's been talking about how the dual battery idea is smart because it can save you from killing your phone by listening to too much music, but dumb because you should be able to siphon energy from one to the other if necessary, and two batteries take up more space than one more powerful battery for the same charge.

so what if the "dual batteries" are in fact one battery, with good power management rules, controlled by a set of user prefs that limit how much juice can be used by one function (e.g., music) before that function is cut off? this could be presented on the front end to the user as if it were two batteries, but in reality just be controlled behind the scenes.

good idea/bad idea?
 
Mtn Tamale said:
I build networks for these guys for a living. That is bogus info. If anything, GSM has the slight lead in efficiency expressed as coverage per tower. However, Verizon have had a better business plan with sharper guys for a lot longer. Cingular is still a kluge, and it is way more expensive to fix their disparate networks now than it was for Verizon over the last 10 years of acquisitions. That is why Verizon is better in general.
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CDMA is more spectrum efficient than GSM's 200kHz/8 channels FH-TDMA system, on a cell-by-cell basis. Of course, this doesn't actually mean much in practice because once you start rolling out enough towers to minimize blackspots, you end up with more than enough capacity anyway.

The really sad thing about the nineties was that the entire US cellular market went for the "superior networking technology == one with most capacity" argument, leaving most networks with what amounts to a version of AMPS with a better air interface, which is more efficient than GSM, but nowhere near as solid.

Cingular's kludge excepted, of course.
 
b0ned0me said:
I'm curious as to why you say this? Currently there are something like two and a half billion mobile phone customers in the world, and the majority of them are on GSM handsets. A combined GSM/UMTS handset would be perfect for the rest of the world, which is currently adding more subscribers per year than the entire population of the USA. 3G UMTS is a niche market for high-end customers, and even that grew by about 40 million last year. If you are designing a mobile phone, the US CDMA market is a small niche, not something you aim for as a whole.
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I don't think Apple is going to want to leave out half the US market, however important the rest of the world is to them. They may be making questionable business decisions with this venture, but this isn't going to be one of them.

UMTS would add significantly to the cost, I'd leave it out of the GSM version unless I wanted to add a third, more expensive, model to the range. Quadband GSM/EDGE will be more than enough right now, until the prices of UMTS hardware plummet anyway.
 
lmalave said:
These are the intarwebs, bro.

My money's still on spicyapple being a d00d. :D


Don't mean to ruin your e-crush :eek:
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No crush here, Married with child. (that musician chick in her avatar is cute though)

Only commenting on continued "interest" throughout this site.

Although you may have something with the "d00d" comment. Some over compensation with the hugs and kisses??...;)
 
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